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Morning After,-Who will you vote for?

Posted on 09/06/2007 6:06:42 AM PDT by Idaho Whacko

The Iran question was a very, very important one. A chance to show a willingness to defend us at any cost, or to show indecision and wimpyness that encourages our enemies.

McCain nailed the Iran question better than anyone else. BUT his shamnesty rules him out, and his idiotic idea somehow 60 years of history will be reversed, and kind treatment of our enemies will result in kind treatment of our boys. Unlawful combatants are subject to summary execution in the field. Holding them and giving them any sort of hearing is already above and beyond in humanitarian terms, and far better than what the terrorists, the Chinese, the N. Koreans, the Iranians or anyone else would do for us. I wish ONE politician would say that. I think Guliani or Thompson would be most likely to.

Guliani gave the second best answer, and a good one. Point a crapload of missiles at them, and tell them to say uncle. I do like that he has experience actually running an administration, competence would be nice in higher office. I also like how he looked at the moderator like he was an idiot for asking about how other nations feel about us. I think he believes we should do the right thing regardless. The inability of most politicians to think this way is why we have so many gutless RINO's in office. I liked his states rights answers, but would he stick with them??

Mitt stunk on that question. I wanted to like him, but his mealy mouthed answer made me think that foreign policy and war fighting is a popularity contest. I think he would morph once in office from the pressure of the NYT, WaPo and the other RINO's at the dinner parties. He has a big head, which reminds me of Senator Lurch, and that's bad.

Huckabee did have the best one liner of the night.

Brownback is a moron.

Duncan hunter got told by a staffer to "lean against the podium, be at a 45 degree angle to the camera, and arch your eyebrows when you talk". It seemed like a pose, but his on-the-record positions match me better than any other candidate. I think that maybe a Guliani/Hunter ticket could do well, those soft on Guliani could look forward to Hunter as the strong man in 2016. I wonder if that team could carry NY and Cali?

Ron Paul exemplifies why the Libertarian Party is stuck in obscurity. He has some GREAT philosophies. But like most libertarian politicians and wanna-be's, he holds to the extreme (or logical conclusion) of those philosophies and miss-applies them in the real world. Do we want a declaration of war? YES!!! Do we hand our heads over to muslims because we have a weenie congress that won't declare war? No!! Is the CIA a huge mess and waste of money? YESS!!! Do we abolish it and wait for the first strike before we respond? NO!!! Particularly because libertarians advocate free and open borders (a nice theory, but like communism, unworkable), they cannot also say we need to gut intelligence, and ban wiretapping of int'l calls.

No thrill or memorable moments from the others.

Fred!! Has been waiting too long, should have been in this debate. At this point, while I was in love with Fred!, I think Guliani is the man. He has a track record. If we had a sea of new-blood GOP in congress, it would be a great combo. It would also be something to see him bitch-slap some old-guard RINO's. I hope that Thompson can turn his act around. In theory, he may be the best candidate from a conservative point of view. But he needs to compete with the Gravitas that Guliani exhibited last night.


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To: The Forgotten Man

I would vote for Newt in a New York minute! He is the most intelligent of all. And he isn’t bashful about speaking his mind!


21 posted on 09/06/2007 6:54:03 AM PDT by jaycee ("God's love still stands when all else has fallen.")
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To: Greg F
But there are three prominent left leaning candidates Romney, Guilianni, and McCain

While Giuliani is left-leaning, neither Romney nor McCain are. They're not perfect conservatives, but their records aren't left-leaning. That being said, McCain is totally whacko and I can't support him. And if you look at Romney's record you'll find that he's not as bad as some (including me at one time) have made him out to be.

22 posted on 09/06/2007 6:54:32 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff
I turned to Leno last night to see Fred's announcement. Literally, it put me to sleep.

He was folksy. Even with the "ums" and the "aws" that I wouldn't have expected from a professional actor, he is soothing and avuncular. Its a sort of non-threatening friendly style. That said, he didn't say anything that excited me and I'm always ready to be excited by a Republican leader. Reagan did the soothing, friendly style and still got a conservative wound up and ready to go . . .

23 posted on 09/06/2007 6:54:44 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: The Forgotten Man

I think Newt is helping Thompson.


24 posted on 09/06/2007 6:55:51 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I absolutely can’t stand Ron Paul. He is a nut case and has a huge temper. Don’t want him near the button even though he is so anti-war~~~~~~


25 posted on 09/06/2007 6:55:59 AM PDT by jaycee ("God's love still stands when all else has fallen.")
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To: Idaho Whacko
Morning After,-Who will you vote for?

I'm sticking with None Of The Above.

26 posted on 09/06/2007 6:56:06 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I absolutely can’t stand Ron Paul. He is a nut case and has a huge temper. Don’t want him near the button even though he is so anti-war~~~~~~


27 posted on 09/06/2007 6:56:18 AM PDT by jaycee ("God's love still stands when all else has fallen.")
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To: Greg F
He was folksy. Even with the "ums" and the "aws" that I wouldn't have expected from a professional actor,

Ums and aws don't cover it. Fred was clearing his throat constantly, which was annoying enough.

28 posted on 09/06/2007 6:57:00 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: Idaho Whacko; anyone

Is there an update to the fox poll which last night had RP winning the debate by a double margin?


29 posted on 09/06/2007 6:57:04 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (Forfeiture of liberty for dubious security undermines our credibility as a free nation.)
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To: Spiff

I view McCain’s restrictions on speech as “left.” Guess you could view them as far right as easily . . . but it’s still totalitarian . . .

Did you see the 1994 clip of Romney debating Kennedy? I should have saved it in my links . . . but he talked up abortion, homosexual rights, and attacked Reagan. It was ugly and definitely left.


30 posted on 09/06/2007 6:57:56 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: johnny7

I would be for Newt....he is a smart, smart man!
As for me, I wouldn’t need a doctor even though your post was not addressed to me.


31 posted on 09/06/2007 6:58:07 AM PDT by jaycee ("God's love still stands when all else has fallen.")
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To: Idaho Whacko
This is insane. The general election is 14 months from now. If this country had even a "mole" of intelligence it would not allow any candacies until Jan 1, 2008; second, it would have a ONE day National Primary. This insane undermining of a sitting President 2 years before his term ends is ridiculous.

Which brings me to my second point. The Republican Party has outlived it's purpose and usefullnes,...it needs to be disbanded. What we need is a Conservative Party based on strong conservative values. I have NO use for people like Arlen Spector. The same RINOs and CINOs year after year.

Defeat the Democrats and the Republicans. They represent the VERY WORST this country has to offer! I hope they both self-destruct!!

32 posted on 09/06/2007 6:58:28 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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To: Sybeck1

When Wendell Goler started blathering about Larry Craig, my husband moved the remote control out of my reach.


33 posted on 09/06/2007 6:59:42 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: jaycee
And he isn’t bashful about speaking his mind!

Agreed, IMHO, the candidate are all PC. Afraid to pierce the skin of any of their opponents. Look at the democrats, the wives attack the Hildebeast. The men don’t have the cojones. Makes them impotent to be POTUS thankfully but that leaves the Hildebeast. She may get the dem nomination but as Rove, the magnificient BASTARD said, “She is a flawed candidate”....

34 posted on 09/06/2007 7:01:13 AM PDT by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: Doc Savage

it would have a ONE day National Primary’

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Yuck. That would guarantee that no insurgent campaign ever wins. We’d always get just the big money supported front runner candidates that could run TV ads in all 50 states. A major media buy in a single state can cost millions.


35 posted on 09/06/2007 7:01:38 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F
Did you see the 1994 clip of Romney debating Kennedy? I should have saved it in my links . . . but he talked up abortion, homosexual rights, and attacked Reagan. It was ugly and definitely left.

I've seen it. That was 1994 and he was running for Senate against the ultimate lefty Ted Kennedy. His actual record in office did not reflect what he said back in 1994. Really, check out his actual record minus the anti-Romney spin. He did some good conservative things in office that have impressed me. And he did it with an 85% Democrat legislature. His record isn't perfect, but he's got mostly the right ideas now. Is he the most conservatve candidate in the race? No. Is he a fairly conservative frontrunner who has the money, skill, and national organization to win the Primary and the General? I think so.

36 posted on 09/06/2007 7:01:51 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: Old Retired Army Guy; Night Hides Not
"Loved the Huckabee smack down of Ron Paul."

I missed it. What did he say?

37 posted on 09/06/2007 7:03:38 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (RON PAUL: "It will be a little bit better now with the democrats now in charge of oversight ")
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To: Idaho Whacko; All

Guiliani was the same over makeuped joke last night.

This is just camp Guiliani attack Thompson viral tactics.


38 posted on 09/06/2007 7:04:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Idaho Whacko

If I vote today, for me, it’s a toss-up between McCain or Giuliani.


39 posted on 09/06/2007 7:04:41 AM PDT by wolfinator
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To: Artemis Webb

I missed it. What did he say?
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Ron Paul said that the Republican party was getting hurt in elections because it was supporting the war in Iraq. Huckabee said that even if it hurt the Republican party our national honor requires that we do the right thing and not abandon the Iraqi people once we have intervened. Principle over politics. He took Ron Paul’s “principled” argument and stood it on it’s head. Preachers go to principle over expediency very naturally . . .


40 posted on 09/06/2007 7:07:57 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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