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Top Secret: Bush Told the Truth About WMD
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 9/7/2007 | Deborah Weiss

Posted on 09/07/2007 7:01:49 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson
The vials contained the chemical phosgene

Apparently not.

Would that affect the rest of the essay?

21 posted on 09/07/2007 8:18:13 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Califreak

The new nuclear reactors will have an updesigned concrete exterior to withstand the impact of crashing airliners.


22 posted on 09/07/2007 8:22:00 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: SJackson
I have never doubted that Saddam had WMD. I read a great book by one of his scientists who defected. He was forced to work on building a nuclear bomb for Saddam.

I was listening to a talk radio show at the time that our troops killed Saddam’s sons and one Middle Eastern guy (pro-American) called in and said, “Thank God, we’ve finally found the WMD — Saddam’s sons. They are responsible for the death of thousands.”

23 posted on 09/07/2007 8:23:20 AM PDT by bethtopaz (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you hav)
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To: SJackson
I have never doubted that Saddam had WMD. I read a great book by one of his scientists who defected. He was forced to work on building a nuclear bomb for Saddam.

I was listening to a talk radio show at the time that our troops killed Saddam’s sons and one Middle Eastern guy (pro-American) called in and said, “Thank God, we’ve finally found the WMD — Saddam’s sons. They are responsible for the death of thousands.”

24 posted on 09/07/2007 8:23:40 AM PDT by bethtopaz (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you hav)
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To: EagleUSA
Their incompetence is exceeded only by their criminality. Just ask Kofi Annan.

And his crook/rapist brother.

25 posted on 09/07/2007 8:26:43 AM PDT by existtoexcel
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To: RightWhale
Apparently not...Would that affect the rest of the essay?

Not in my mind, the burden was on Sadaam to prove the destruction of the weapons. The fact that it wasn't phosgene, known only after long delayed testing, also goes to the competency of the inspection process.

26 posted on 09/07/2007 8:37:59 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: ClearCase_guy
deadly nerve gas phosgene

Since phosgene isn't a nerve gas, it is a lung irritant, are they cleverly parsing or just ignorant?

My vote is ignorant.

27 posted on 09/07/2007 8:39:52 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (If you agree with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's ignorance.

But I'm sure some Clintonista type is fully prepared to deny that "any -- I mean ANY -- WMD" had ever been found in Iraq.

But, when possibly presented with data on phosgene, they would simply shrug and say, "Oh, phosgene. That's a lung irritant. It's not really a nerve gas, you know. I thought we were talking about nerve gas. When you say WMD, I just figured you meant nerve gas. Phosgene, sure. They had that. That's old news. Let's move on."

28 posted on 09/07/2007 8:46:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Phosgene is a blister agent, not a nerve agent. Small wonder.


29 posted on 09/07/2007 8:52:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: RightWhale

Covering all bases, huh?


30 posted on 09/07/2007 8:54:11 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I don’t care what it is! It sounds nasty and shouldn’t be stored in a filing cabinet at the UN.


31 posted on 09/07/2007 8:56:11 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: enough_idiocy
"I’ve said this from day one. The left accomplished a very important victory from the start - they framed the war as imposing a burden on the US to prove Iraq had WMDs. That was never the case. The burden was on Iraq to prove it didn’t and it failed. Not finding large stockpiles was not a failure, a lie, etc..."

100% correct. The entire ordeal was always about the verification of disarmament with the onus on the Hussein regime.

32 posted on 09/07/2007 9:01:09 AM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

and to date the GOP/Bush have not addressed this. This is a compelling argument. The whole point of the war and preemptive doctrine is to not sit and wait. If there’s a reasonable basis for suspecting a threat to the US, we have to act. Saying you have tons of X, Y, Z and then saying you have none without proving that to be so presents a threat in my view if the country saying it has used them before and been involved in terrorism and attacks agains the US.


33 posted on 09/07/2007 9:04:22 AM PDT by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: edcoil
Assume you believe the test results.

Hmmmm, let's see, scientific test results or a politician...what to believe...

34 posted on 09/07/2007 9:06:02 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Califreak
It is nasty, and a lot of Allied troops were killed or maimed for life by the stuff in WWI.

As for the UN, I don't think they should store the UN at the UN. It is a waste of valuable real estate.

35 posted on 09/07/2007 9:06:47 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“As for the UN, I don’t think they should store the UN at the UN. It is a waste of valuable real estate.”

I am somewhat Birchy on this issue myself.


36 posted on 09/07/2007 9:08:21 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: billbears
“Hmmmm, let’s see, scientific test results or a politician...what to believe...”

How many FBI labs have been compromised?

37 posted on 09/07/2007 9:08:50 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil
How many FBI labs have been compromised?

How many politicians lie to get their agenda pushed through? Far more than FBI labs have been compromised

38 posted on 09/07/2007 9:11:20 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Izzy Dunne

According to her article, the vilas contained PHOSGENE, not Nerve agent.

Phosgene is MUSTARD GAS.

Mustard Gas is a WMD.

Do you have a link to where they said it was what?


39 posted on 09/07/2007 9:21:22 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RaceBannon
Do you have a link to where they said it was what?

Here's one

I have no opinion on their believability - It's an anonymous UN official that said it, so they just might stretch the truth a bit.

40 posted on 09/07/2007 9:27:21 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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