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Thompson announcement - bad news for Republican Party (Mild Barf Alert)
The Rocky Mountain Collegian ^ | September 10, 2007 | Sean Reed

Posted on 09/10/2007 2:33:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Republican Party has a serious problem.

Fred Thompson announced that he is finally serious about his presidential campaign after toying with voters for nearly two months.

The former Law and Order star made it honest last Wednesday night on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno and joined what John Stewart has appropriately dubbed the 2008 "Clusterf*** to the White House."

With too many candidates for the average American to focus on already and no real standouts on the Republican side, Thompson's announcement could be the death rattle for the Republican Party.

We're talking about a guy who, without even declaring his official candidacy, was ranked second only to Rudy Giuliani as the man that Republicans would most like to see get the presidential nod, according to a late August Gallup Poll.

The fact that a man who was not even running at the time was beating most of the men that have been campaigning for months shows just how much trouble the Republicans are in.

Now that Thompson's official, though, he may be an even bigger problem for the GOP - as an honest candidate, he has the potential to ruin the little momentum the party has managed to muster.

Rudy Giuliani has built his platform on 9/11. As the man America saw both grieve with and rebuild New York City, he definitely has some credibility there.

And, at least from television interviews, he just seems like a hell of a nice guy.

The problem is that he's a bit soft on issues that are important to the conservative base. Namely abortion and gay rights, just to name a couple.

Thompson, on the other hand, has made it clear that he's a Republican's Republican - he's pro-war, anti-gay rights, anti-abortion, anti-illegal immigration and anti-terror.

Given that these two front-runners are so oppositional on key issues, Fred's foray into the race could be the divisive element that costs the Republican the '08 election.

Generally, the road to convention is more of a general popularity contest than anything. Hard issues are rarely brought up because, more or less, the candidates feel the same way about it.

This is the way it is for the Democratic hopefuls.

The serious candidates are all identical on the big issues within their party - they don't like Bush, they don't like Iraq, and they're trying to find a way out of it.

The problem for Democratic voters, therefore, is less about who extols their virtues, but rather about which generic candidate has the most experience, who's getting the most expensive haircut, or who has the least abrasive personality.

No matter who makes it, in this instance, the voters know their values - or at least most of them - will be represented.

Republican voters don't have this luxury.

If Thompson gets the nod, voters more moderate on social issues may feel alienated. Likewise, if Giuliani is nominated, conservative Christians will probably be a bit upset.

Should this happen, the only solution for the GOP would be a split ticket with either candidate as president and his counterbalance in the less coveted vice presidential chair.

Of course, things may never get this far.

Now that Thompson is an official candidate, he has to do the fun things he had up to this point been immune to. Like debates.

The excitement surrounding him may fade when he has to defend his positions against his peers. Or maybe it will only increase.

What is certain is that Thompson isn't going away anytime soon and how the Republicans choose to deal with the situation will affect their chances in '08.

For their sake, they had better choose wisely.

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Editorials Editor Sean Reed is a junior political science major. His column appears Mondays in the Collegian. Letters and feedback can be sent to letters@collegian.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Tennessee; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; abortion; democrats; electionpresident; elections; fredthompson; gop; iraq; republicans; rudygiuliani; wot
I'm glad that Mr. Reed, a junior in college and a political science major, was good enough to share his vast experience and knowledge of politics with us.
1 posted on 09/10/2007 2:33:18 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fred Thompson announced that he is finally serious about his presidential campaign after toying with voters for nearly two months.

Sorry, couldn't read beyond such a stupid sentence.

2 posted on 09/10/2007 2:34:16 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The peanuts in my stool could write better than this. I weep for the future.


3 posted on 09/10/2007 2:58:35 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thompson announcement - bad news for Republican Hillary and the Democrat Party.

There I fixed it.

This article is a disingenuous piece of garbage.

Fred has the Democrats underwear in one hell of a big knot.

I hear their screams of pain.

Freds running, oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.........

...VS...

4 posted on 09/10/2007 3:02:31 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So, it's bad for the Party of Ideas to have a debate over these ideas then take it to a vote. The Party of Total Agreement is in better shape after having zero debate on everything, because they agree about everything. They are the ones ready to debate before the next Presidential election. Okie, dokie.

The problem for the Democrat Party is that a majority of the public doesn't agree with them. They don't want defeat in Iraq. They don't want to appease the terrorists. They don't agree that Social Democratic Europe is the epitome of wisdom. They don't agree that the Government ought to run everything. The problem for the Democrats is that the public DOES know what it's values are and what everyone stands for in that party.

5 posted on 09/10/2007 3:31:53 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

fieldmarshaldj wrote: “The peanuts in my stool could write better than this. I weep for the future.”

I’m not saying the article was good, but you must have amazingly talented peanuts.


6 posted on 09/10/2007 3:44:02 AM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are giving credibility to junior cub reporters in college papers now? Good grief...spare me.
The dems are bad enough to stomach.


7 posted on 09/10/2007 3:47:35 AM PDT by donnab
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To: CitizenUSA
fieldmarshaldj wrote: “The peanuts in my stool could write better than this. I weep for the future.”

I’m not saying the article was good, but you must have amazingly talented peanuts.

"I got chunks of guys like you in my stool!"

Phil Hartman as Sinatra on SNL

8 posted on 09/10/2007 4:06:49 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

see #8


9 posted on 09/10/2007 4:07:37 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
With too many candidates for the average American to focus on already and no real standouts on the Republican side, Thompson's announcement could be the death rattle for the Republican Party.

I guess the Democrat party was dead last election when they had about 12 candidates.

10 posted on 09/10/2007 4:07:40 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “Collegian”? yawn...

Fred Thompson ‘08!


11 posted on 09/10/2007 4:13:04 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The serious candidates are all identical on the big issues within their party - they don't like Bush, they don't like Iraq, and they're trying to find a way out of it."

The sum total of the Democratic Party platform - we hate Bush and we'll announce our plan on Iraq after the election.

12 posted on 09/10/2007 4:16:36 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Death rattle for the GOP?

Jeez, what drama a queen! Is this what passes for college journalism these days?


13 posted on 09/10/2007 4:28:36 AM PDT by Josh Painter ( "Our government must be limited by the powers delegated to it by the Constitution." - Fred Thompson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So a junior in Pol. Sci. at the 2nd public university in Colorado doesn’t think much of the Republican Party’s chances.

What a pity!!


14 posted on 09/10/2007 4:32:47 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Total disaster.
There’s a NON-RINO running!
He’s NOT bowing to the MSM!
He’s talking REAL issues and COMMONM SENSE!

Run for yer lives, it’s the end of the Woild!


15 posted on 09/10/2007 5:07:58 AM PDT by Flintlock (-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, while conservatives, who still make up a majority of the republican party, are busy with their fratricide of all the marginally conservative candidates in the field, Rudy still leads the national numbers by more than 10 points.

Any time a more conservative candidate than Rudy gets CLOSE to him, a section of the conservative population goes after that candidate and destroys them.

When we have Rudy as our nominee, we’ll have only ourselves to blame. I’m getting tired of those who reject the “good enough” for the unattainable (and for most of them, non-existant) perfect candidate.

We’ll learn our lesson eventually, but it apparently will be a very painful one.

Now that Thompson’s in, even though he was supposed to be the salvation for the conservatives, he too is getting soundly thrashed in some conservative quarters.


16 posted on 09/10/2007 6:11:25 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is one thing that just drives me nuts, and that is a story made up of a few dozen one sentence statements.
17 posted on 09/10/2007 7:32:11 AM PDT by chaos_5 (Fred and Hunter 08)
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To: Sturm Ruger

“Jeez, what drama a queen! Is this what passes for college journalism these days?”

The names will change but slight variations of this story will probably be written or taught by this writer for the rest of his life.


18 posted on 09/10/2007 9:34:20 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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To: Vaquero

Phil Hartman, one of the greats.


19 posted on 09/10/2007 5:08:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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