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'Police Match Madeleine DNA To Hire Car'
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Posted on 09/10/2007 12:54:03 PM PDT by hotdog777

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To: hotdog777

To make this stick, one must assume they hid body for 5 weeks while everyone was looking for her, in Portugal, in Summer, in place where body did not smell, then transported her while everyone was watching them.

BS.


21 posted on 09/10/2007 1:05:06 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Or the police are faking the test results.

Or aliens from Jupiter snatched her - which is more likely than both UK and Portugal crime labs colluding in faking DNA results.

22 posted on 09/10/2007 1:05:13 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: ElkGroveDan
How do they know the DNA was transfered five weeks AFTER the abduction?

It is a car the parents rented 4 weeks after she went missing. Do you understand? The parents did not have possession of the car in which the girl's blood was found until 25 days after she was reported missing.
23 posted on 09/10/2007 1:06:18 PM PDT by elizabetty (The job of POTUS is not about ideology alone; it is about COMPETENCE to do the job WELL.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Could it have been from a cloth or towel used to car for a skinned knee or nose-bleed and then thrown in the trunk PRIOR TO her abduction?

No they did not have the car prior to her abduction. My question is how they know the DNA could not have come other sources, such as her little sister, who started wearing her clothes after she disappeared. Or Kate's clothes, which you would expect to have Madeleine's DNA all over them.

24 posted on 09/10/2007 1:07:30 PM PDT by freespirited (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: twigs

“Mrs. McCann probably accidentally killed Madelaine”

I heard that’s what the police are thinking. Both parents are doctors and most likely sedated their children and left them unattended, which is consistent with their story that they left the children sleeping in the hotel room while they went to dinner. They probably discovered they’d overdosed the little girl when they returned and began contemplating a negligent homicide charge if it came out.


25 posted on 09/10/2007 1:08:07 PM PDT by Spok
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To: elizabetty
It is a car the parents rented 4 weeks after she went missing. Do you understand?

Yes I understand. No need to be condescending. I missed that point in the article.

Still clothing loggage and other belongings placed in the car would very likely still have the girsl DNA on it. They may hvae a case, but there's a whole lot missing from this story still.

26 posted on 09/10/2007 1:09:15 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
I guess “hire car” is a rental car.

And 'boot' is trunk.

27 posted on 09/10/2007 1:09:28 PM PDT by PAR35
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The McCanns’ lawyers will argue — perhaps successfully — what you are arguing, but I for one don’t buy it. If there was any blood in these samples, scientists will be able to tell if the person whose blood it was was alive or dead (or dying) — something to do with the white blood cell count — when the blood was shed. If it turns out that (dead) Madeleine’s blood was in the trunk of a car rented three weeks after she abducted...well, the McCanns better hope they get some jurors as dumb as the OJ Simpson jurors.
28 posted on 09/10/2007 1:10:14 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: freespirited
My question is how they know the DNA could not have come other sources, such as her little sister, who started wearing her clothes after she disappeared. Or Kate's clothes, which you would expect to have Madeleine's DNA all over them.

Presumably because they did not find the sister's or mother's DNA in the trunk but only Madeleine's - and a susbstantial amount at that.

29 posted on 09/10/2007 1:10:21 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: John123

I’m guessing it’s a rental car the family rented 5 weeks after she disappeared. The police say that they found DNA matching the girl IN the trunk.

The suggestion has apparently been made by the parents that they had put some of the girl’s things in the trunk, which could have left DNA, and the police are now saying that somehow their DNA test could tell the difference between DNA which was transfered from the body to a teddy bear to the trunk, and DNA that was transfered from the body to the trunk.

I have no idea whether it is possible to distinguish between the two, although I would imagine if a body was put in the trunk there would be more dna lying around than if it came from a secondary source.


30 posted on 09/10/2007 1:10:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Okay, please forgive me, but I have a stupid question...

If the theory is that the McCann’s accidentally killed Madeleine by oversedating her, where did the blood come from?
Bodily deterioration? Or does this change the theory of how Madeleine died?


31 posted on 09/10/2007 1:10:43 PM PDT by Juana la Loca
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To: MindBender26
This is BS.

Rental car could have easily been used to transport anything the girl ever touched, wore, shed hair on, etc. This could easilly transfer DNA sample to car.

This is local cops trying to put pressure on parrents.

You may be right. How do you get blood samples from 5 weeks after someone has died. My gut feeling is that the cops are trying to make a case where there isn’t one.

32 posted on 09/10/2007 1:10:59 PM PDT by McGruff (If I can't have Cheney, Fred will have to do.)
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gee, what if they accidentally rented the car originally rented by
the real killer? where’s miss marple when you need her?

WIFE’O BUCKHEAD HERE.


33 posted on 09/10/2007 1:11:36 PM PDT by Buckhead (making the comments buckhead won't make.)
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To: hotdog777

So if they had this slam dunk evidence why were they allowed to leave the country?


34 posted on 09/10/2007 1:11:44 PM PDT by vigilence
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To: MindBender26

I tend to agree with you. I need to hear more details.


35 posted on 09/10/2007 1:11:47 PM PDT by Spaghetti Man (NJ no more)
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To: Condor51

“This is insane. Those parents were watched 24/7 after their daughter went missing. How the hell could they hide her body for FIVE weeks, then put it in a rental, and then dump it - unnoticed.
If they found the blood (DNA) three or even five DAYS later that’s one thing, but in car they rented five weeks later, come on. This is baloney.”

and here’s my question; if her body went into the trunk 5 weeks after she was dead - where did the blood come from? I’m thinking after being dead for 5 weeks; you are not going to get much fresh blood...


36 posted on 09/10/2007 1:12:23 PM PDT by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: MindBender26

Well, if it WAS blood as others have said, it would suggest that during those 5 weeks, she was NOT DEAD.

If she had been dead for 5 weeks, there’d be no blood to be left in the car.


37 posted on 09/10/2007 1:12:46 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Buckhead

I hear they’ve already scheduled a Tee Time with OJ.


38 posted on 09/10/2007 1:13:18 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: MindBender26
shed hair on, etc. This could easilly transfer DNA sample to car.

Easily?

"The evidence came in blood samples"

39 posted on 09/10/2007 1:13:29 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Condor51
This is insane. Those parents were watched 24/7 after their daughter went missing. How the hell could they hide her body for FIVE weeks, then put it in a rental, and then dump it - unnoticed.

I cannot get my head around that either. Imagining a scenario which fits just plain eludes me.

40 posted on 09/10/2007 1:14:13 PM PDT by JimSEA
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