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Poll: Iraqis say US troops not helping
AP on Yahoo ^ | 9/10/07 | Alan Fram - ap

Posted on 09/10/2007 5:32:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Overwhelming numbers of Iraqis say the U.S. troop buildup has worsened security and the prospects for economic and political progress in their country, according to a poll released Monday that provides a strikingly bleak appraisal of the war.

Forty-seven percent want American forces and their coalition allies to leave the country immediately, the survey showed, 12 points more than said so in a March poll as the troop increase was beginning. And 57 percent — including nearly all Sunnis and half of Shiites — said they consider attacks on coalition forces acceptable, a slight increase over the past half year.

The poll, conducted by ABC News, Britain's BBC, and Japan's public broadcaster NHK, was released at the start of a critical week in the fight by Democrats trying to force President Bush to begin a withdrawal.

Seventy percent in the survey said they believe security has worsened where the added forces were sent, with another 11 percent saying the buildup has had no effect. Similar numbers said security in other parts of the country has deteriorated and that overall economic and political conditions have declined.

Only a quarter said their own communities have become safer in the past half year. Every person interviewed in Baghdad and Anbar province, a Sunni-dominated area where Bush recently visited and cited progress, said the troop increase has worsened security.

Countrywide, a fourth reported nearby car bombs or suicide attacks in the past six months, with as many or slightly fewer saying they have seen snipers, sectarian fighting, kidnappings and unnecessary violence by coalition forces against citizens.

Just 39 percent said their lives were going well, while only a fifth said they think things in the country are going well. Minorities said they approve of the job being done by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki or have confidence in U.S. and British forces.

Despite their pessimistic views of their lives, virtually all said that separating Iraqis along sectarian lines is bad for the country. Six in 10 said they wanted a unified country ruled by a central government in Baghdad.

Some interviewers conducting the survey reported encountering military operations or suicide attacks, and some were detained by government or militia forces, but all completed their work safely. A handful of interviewing locations had to be changed for security reasons.

The poll was conducted August 17 to 24 and involved face-to-face interviews in Arabic or Kurdish with 2,212 randomly chosen adult Iraqis from across the country. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points, and was conducted by D3 Systems of Vienna, Va., and KA Research Limited of Istanbul.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: helping; iraq; iraqis; pollsiniraq; ustroops
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To: NormsRevenge

I might give this some credence if it came from a more credible source than either AP or Yahoo.

However, sisnce it didn’t . . . . . . .


41 posted on 09/10/2007 5:58:13 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: camerakid400

“I have come to the conclusion that some people really dont want freedom-and therefore Bush’s theory of spreading freedom is wrong. Islamic Law (Sharia) does not permit freedom of speech, thought, religion, etc, etc. Large majorities of Muslims want Sharia law imposed in every country.”

Then my conclusion is that, regretible, a LARGE number of Muslins need to be put to the sword to end that kind of thinking. If some towel head says he wants “Sharia”, we cleave him head to toe.

My I am rather bellicose today.


42 posted on 09/10/2007 6:01:19 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: sionnsar

>Paperdoll, I truly admire your gentle nature.<

Nothing gets my Irish up like insuborninate who are out to do an honorable person in. And to think the “ladies and gentlemen” we have voted into office fit that description is unbelievable.


43 posted on 09/10/2007 6:02:42 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Paperdoll
Nothing gets my Irish up...

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketI was serious. That your restraint was kept to "vote 'em out" is admirable.

D' ye ken noo, lass?

44 posted on 09/10/2007 6:12:23 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: NormsRevenge

More non news from the survey:

“Iraqis – Sunni and Shiite alike – almost unanimously reject
other activities of al Qaeda in Iraq – attacking Iraqi civilians (100 percent call this
unacceptable), attempting to gain control of some areas (98 percent) and recruiting
foreign fighters to come to Iraq (97 percent). “

We have totally won the hearts and minds war against Al Qaeda in Iraq. They promised to turn Iraq into their fiefdom and they have been CRUSHED on that count. The media absolutely refuses to acknowledge this HUGE success.

There is no nation on the Earth as opposed to Al Qaeda as Iraq. Our own nationa has higher support for Al Qaeda.


45 posted on 09/10/2007 6:12:32 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: NormsRevenge

What a crock of shiite.


46 posted on 09/10/2007 6:12:45 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Sola Veritas

A World Public Opinion poll shows about 75 percent of Morocco, Pakistan, Egypt, and Indonesia Muslims want Sharia Law. They believe it is the only way to follow Allah and Muhammad.

There are groups of Muslims in Iraq who love the troops...mostly children. However, they are brainwashed to hate Americans in their Mosques.


47 posted on 09/10/2007 6:13:28 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: NormsRevenge

Why do these news organizations have any credibility left?


48 posted on 09/10/2007 6:16:20 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Polls of Germans post-WW2 reveal Germans want Americans to go home, and polls in 2007 say the same thing. Nothing changes.


49 posted on 09/10/2007 6:18:35 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: NormsRevenge
I can just see how the poll was conducted. The Pollster has the questions to the poll written up and submitted to an Iraqi to have the questions put in Arabic. However, the Iraqi is actually a Iranian agent. The questions are rewritten to say, “If you knew that someone would stab you while you slept if you said the U.S. troops were good for Iraq, on a scale of 1 to 5 are the U.S. troops doing Iraq any good?”

In the meantime, the press sucks up this bogus poll in between Pina Coladas poolside at the Hotel Palestine, Baghdad

50 posted on 09/10/2007 6:19:10 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: NormsRevenge

Polls are for strippers and liberals.


51 posted on 09/10/2007 6:19:42 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech." Hold a hearing on that.)
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To: NormsRevenge

After reading the FULL report, it is difficult to begin to describe the outrageous deception contained in current headlines. Accurate headliens would report the following based on the survey:

1. IRAQIS 100 PERCENT OPPOSED TO AL QAEDA IN IRAQ

2. SURGE WORKS— WITHDRAWAL FAILS

3. IRAQIS EQUALLY DIVIDED ON US STAYING IN IRAQ

4. ANONYMOUS POLLSTERS FIND IRAQIS SCARED TO GIVE THE WRONG ANSWER TO POLLSTERS WHO MIGHT KILL THEM

Keep in mind that the survey shows security improving in Bagdad and Anbar. The survey shows a decline in Basra. This means pullout by Brits caused reduced security while increased forces in Bagdad and Anbar improved security.


52 posted on 09/10/2007 6:21:05 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Really?

The evidence I’ve seen paints an entirely different picture. So who’s lying: ABC, BBC, NHK or Iraqis?


53 posted on 09/10/2007 6:26:44 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: NormsRevenge

Yet another rigged poll reported as “news”. Gotta hand it to the Left and their MSM minions — they are going all out on this caper.


54 posted on 09/10/2007 6:27:38 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: chaos_5
Bunch of ungrateful ingrates.

The poll is phonier than a three dollar bill.

55 posted on 09/10/2007 6:39:22 PM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

Sadly, both ABC and the Iraqis are lying.

The legitimacy of the lies told by Iraqis are somewhat more comprehensible. ABC news trying to actively deceive the public about our success in Iraq is despicable.

Anonymous surveyors are asking Iraqis if they support killing US troops. If the anonymous surveyor hates the US, they may send back people to kill the respondent. If the anonymous surveyor is of US affiliation, it is safe to say either opinion.

Would this dilemma skew the data? Absolutely. So why does ABC not require pollsters to identify themselves? Because they want the respondents to take on that dilemma in the interest of news. Letting the Iraqi public face the gun or bomb is far preferable to losing journalistic assets.

This is a great view of the heartless view of American journalism.

Despite these dilemmas, if you read through the data, you can see how the survey actually shows success. People are more free to express opinions and Bagdad and Anbar are more secure.


56 posted on 09/10/2007 6:42:17 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: lonestar67
Here is what General Westmoreland had to say about Tet and the MSM, it shows how the Lefties and the MSM are still using the same playbook:

http://www.geocities.com/wtsjr/georgeWest.html

57 posted on 09/10/2007 6:55:58 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: NormsRevenge

Islamic terrorism’s weapon of choice is the Associated Press.


58 posted on 09/10/2007 7:34:38 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: NormsRevenge

The poll was conducted by a company called D3 Systems.

Below is the link to an article on their website about the difficulty that they faced in attempting to conduct polling in Afghanistan. The same obstacles also apply to Iraq.

http://www.publicopinionpros.com/from_field/2005/may/warshaw.asp

They’re conducting face-to-face interviews. Who in their right mind would answer such questions truthfully?


59 posted on 09/10/2007 7:44:20 PM PDT by bw17
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To: bw17

poll these guys...

http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/


60 posted on 09/10/2007 7:46:17 PM PDT by donnab
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