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Romney didn't approve anti-Thompson site
Yahoo! News ^ | September 11, 2007 | Glen Johnson

Posted on 09/11/2007 8:50:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Greg F
I'm making the font red in order to highlight it's importance.

...it somehow disappeared real fast once the Post contacted Romney's folks.

61 posted on 09/11/2007 10:06:32 AM PDT by colorcountry (We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God)
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To: MeanWestTexan
No apology, just “not our fault.”

Should he apologize if he didn't know about or approve the site? Is it somehow his fault then?

62 posted on 09/11/2007 10:08:27 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

He acted quickly and decisively. He denounced the tactic.

Brilliant, I conspire with someone to do something unethical and then I speak up and denounce it. Nobody would be smart enough to see right through this


63 posted on 09/11/2007 10:10:26 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: TChris
Should he apologize if he didn't know about or approve the site? Is it somehow his fault then?

No, but he should denounce the slimy tactic and fire the consulting firm responsible.

He's done neither.

64 posted on 09/11/2007 10:10:58 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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To: stm

The Democrats play the same game. Disgusting!


65 posted on 09/11/2007 10:11:58 AM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm sure there are things the campaign staff does that the candidate would never know about unless something occurs to bring it to the candidate's attention. One person cannot know about and control every single action of a huge, nation-wide campaign staff.

What counts is how the candidate reacts after it is brought to his attention.

66 posted on 09/11/2007 10:12:29 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
He denounced the tactic.

No he didn't. He just claimed he wasn't responsible.

67 posted on 09/11/2007 10:12:37 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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To: TChris

I guess “the buck stops here” doesn’t mean much to you, does it?


68 posted on 09/11/2007 10:13:26 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

It’s just not a fun way to live, always thinking ill of others and assuming you are being lied to.

Neither is living like a patsy falling for every transparent trick in the book, over and over again for fear of being “negative”.

If someone is known to say what people want to hear in order to get what that person wants, in this case a vote then a wise man would measure his words with a grain of salt.


69 posted on 09/11/2007 10:13:40 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: sitetest
Plausible deniability.

Those were exactly the words that ran through my mind when I read this.
70 posted on 09/11/2007 10:14:22 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: dusttoyou

Sort of like hitlery didn’t know anything about Hsu.... yeah right.

Same tactic, for sure.


71 posted on 09/11/2007 10:16:12 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
According to the article, he works for the same company as Thompson

Wrong again! The article clearly states "created by Wesley Donehue, a business partner of Warren Tompkins".

Working for and being a partner are vastly different.

72 posted on 09/11/2007 10:17:49 AM PDT by BubbaBasher (WWW.FRED08.COM)
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To: bcsco

Why don’t YOU get it straight?

The business associate is a SUPPORTER of Romney. It is the SUPPORTER who did this. Tompkins did NOT do this, and HE is the advisor.

It’s really quite simple, and I said it pretty clearly the first time, and I don’t normally get snippy but there’s enough misinformation out there that I don’t take kindly to having MY words misrepresented.


73 posted on 09/11/2007 10:17:50 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RachelFaith

If the site wasn’t affiliated with the campaign all he needed to do was say so and leave it at that. maybe throw in a “freedom of expression” for good measure and allow the site to stand.

His big involvement and cries to anyone who will hear about how ethical he is in getting it shut down goes to prove how close he was too it.
Craig pled guilty even though he was innocent and Mitt shut the site down even though he wasn’t connected to it.


74 posted on 09/11/2007 10:19:01 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: TheKidster

You have ANY evidence of a conspiracy here? Or just a theory unsupported by facts that fits your world view?

A funny thing to think of on a day when another group is ridiculed for their conspiracy theories.

IN fact, it’s so easy to see “right through this” that it seems almost incredulous to believe it was a “conspiracy”.

You don’t think Romney, who has had no trouble saying bad things about others directly, needs to have some 3rd-party operative putting this stuff out? The bloggers are already doing this stuff, everything on the site apparently was just like stuff people here at FR have already dug up.

You think Romney, had he wanted to do this, would have had to use a business associate of a paid advisor? You don’t think he could find a volunteer somewhere who had access to a web address?


75 posted on 09/11/2007 10:22:17 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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The truth is of no importance in 'gotcha' politics. Perception is reality.
I look forward to two more years of snotty kids in their playpen, playing 'gotcha'. I think I'll re-read Animal Farm to get in the spirit.
76 posted on 09/11/2007 10:24:47 AM PDT by Swordfished
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The business associate is a SUPPORTER of Romney. It is the SUPPORTER who did this. Tompkins did NOT do this, and HE is the advisor.

It's being reported that Tompkins is being paid $12K a month to work for Romney's campaign. His business associate is responsible for the website. The man is associated through business with a paid adviser for the Romney campaign, sets up a website that attacks Thompson, and we're to believe the Romney campaign was completely clueless until the WaPo brought it to their attention?

Give me a break! I've got it straight. You're the one who's either clueless or in collusion.

77 posted on 09/11/2007 10:27:58 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: BubbaBasher

I wasn’t getting into the details of the relationship, but if you are the partner with someone, the two of you work for the same company.

But in fact, being a partner in a firm like this probably means there is even LESS of a tie than if the one guy WORKED for him. So I was inaccurate.

Two people can partner just to share expenses, and have little to do with each other’s business dealings. It happens a lot with law firms and political consultants.

If a SUBORDINATE had done this, you might more reasonably tie it to the owner of the company.

Try as many people might, it’s not really accurate to blame people for things their “partners” in a business do. I guess if they are really BAD people we could say that you shouldn’t have partnered with them, but in this case nobody is saying that it is unethical for a person to set up a site like Phoney Fred, and at the moment nobody is arguing that the site was full of false statements of fact.

We have a site like that on Rudy right here.

The argument was that Romney was involved, and the fact that a partner of his advisor was involved is NOT as damning as if it was a WORKER at his advisor’s firm.


78 posted on 09/11/2007 10:28:34 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
You don’t think Romney, who has had no trouble saying bad things about others directly, needs to have some 3rd-party operative putting this stuff out?

Like "Evangelicals for Mitt"?

Let's break it down, shall we?

  1. The website recycles all of the same slimes previously trotted out by Romney fronts such as "Evangelicals for Mitt"
  2. The site was created and hosted using the company resources of one of Romney's senior advisers, and created by that adviser's business partner
  3. Immediately after the Washington Post contacts the Romney campaign about the site, it is taken down
  4. The Romney campaign issues a denial of any involvement, but fails to denounce the tactic nor fire the consulting company
You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to think that the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming.
79 posted on 09/11/2007 10:28:45 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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To: MeanWestTexan
I guess “the buck stops here” doesn’t mean much to you, does it?

Of course it does. But only the "bucks" for which he's responsible.

Does it seem reasonable to you that he should be responsible for the behavior of everyone even remotely associated with anyone who works on his campaign? That's an impossible, unfair standard. It's a standard that no other candidate is now or ever has been held to.

80 posted on 09/11/2007 10:30:32 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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