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Pet deer saga hits deadlock; family in tears
KGW-TV ^ | 09/12/2007 | ANTONIA GIEDWOYN and kgw.com Staff

Posted on 09/12/2007 10:46:36 PM PDT by Inspectorette

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To: Inspectorette
I don't know what the deer smells like

It smells wonderful on the grill. First, you take the tenderloin and cut it into 1" pieces. Then, you put them on a kabob, alternating with onion, bell pepper and mushrooms. Then, grill until done. Delicious!

61 posted on 09/13/2007 4:24:00 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Made in China: Treat those three words like a warning label)
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To: LilAngel

It is a different Oregon than the place where I grew up fifty years ago. Even then, I guess there were signs. I recall the State Police kept us kids in fear, not because we were bad kids but because of the constant perception that we were always guilty of something and if the police wanted, they could carry us away. I had not noticed that in other states, although perhaps it was just anecdotal. But the euthanasia program fit my perception.

Even though I used to take my deer gun to school, Thurston, what follows did not surprise me. (Thurston, where Kip Kinkle went on the killing spree...)

Later on, we did save a marsh hawk juvenile from certain death when the mother had been killed probably by a coyote. We nourished it, and kept it in a near wild environment, and when it could fly, released it. It had come back on occasion to visit, but continued happily ever after as a wild hawk. Based on earlier experience in Oregon, I wouldn’t have dreamed of telling anyone from the “government”.

Yes, euthanasia is usually reserved for people in Oregon and in dreams of bioethicists, but even PETA snuffs critters, not to eat them but just to kill.


62 posted on 09/13/2007 4:24:08 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Jeff Chandler
what does the deer smell like?

Hold on..........sniff, sniff.........chicken...

63 posted on 09/13/2007 4:27:58 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No tap dancing allowed in this restroom facility)
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To: shibumi

In my state (Ohio) the rattlesnake is protected.

Common sense is a rare item in government.


64 posted on 09/13/2007 4:31:02 AM PDT by TheDeacon (Thank God for those willing to go into harms way.)
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To: freekitty

What kind of person reported them to Game & Fish?

It was a low socially skilled, mean, passive aggressive person, who probably had some kind of “imagined” grief with the deer’s benefactor that was unrelated to the fact a deer was being kept. Undoubtedly, this same individual is very pleased with themselves and enjoying immensely all the commotion.

The only thing to do with these type people is to avoid them.


65 posted on 09/13/2007 4:32:19 AM PDT by rgboomers (This space purposely left blank)
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To: CondorFlight

This is so true. We had an injured bird and were told to drive it 2 hours with a bird rehabilitator. When I called and talked to the OFFICIAL REHABIILITATOR he eventually admited he would kill the bird.

The kids and I worked with the bird, and eventually it was in good enough shape to release.

Being a decent human being and not being politically correct can put you on the wrong side of the law. What I have learned?

Never to call the state about anything.

See my tag line.


66 posted on 09/13/2007 5:44:51 AM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: cva66snipe

Meet my tagline.


67 posted on 09/13/2007 5:47:55 AM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Inspectorette

-oh, dear me.


68 posted on 09/13/2007 5:52:19 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Inspectorette
Following is the e-mail address for the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife.

Carolyn

odfw.info@state.or.us

69 posted on 09/13/2007 5:52:45 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: SIDENET
After receiving an anonymous tip that the family has been illegally keeping a wild animal as a pet

Call 1 800 Im a##hole

70 posted on 09/13/2007 6:01:06 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: coydog
Send them an e-mail:

odfw.info@state.or.us

carolyn

71 posted on 09/13/2007 6:03:57 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Inspectorette
There is a video and a voting section on the deer on the TV site now.

Carolyn

72 posted on 09/13/2007 6:06:23 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: M0sby
Yeah....those look like such wild dangerous animals....which makes me laugh at this statement:
Fish & Wildlife officials were staged nearby
Because "I know" how much they LOVE to kill animals. I can picture those _________'s sitting on the side with their shotguns/rifles just waiting for one of the deer to look at them so they can Claim it was going to attack them....so they can shoot it. Wussies.
73 posted on 09/13/2007 6:07:57 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: M0sby

Common sense is not the business of government. In fact, common sense is to government as a can of Raid is to a cockroach.


74 posted on 09/13/2007 6:12:36 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: Chickensoup

That which is not forbidden is compulsary.


75 posted on 09/13/2007 6:14:10 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: Westlander
Meanwhile, 1,000 illegal aliens snuck into the USA behind the State Police cars.

If you changed the story from 'wild animal' to 'alien', would the outcome change? Or would the Police show up to return the 'alien' to the 'wild'...

76 posted on 09/13/2007 6:22:29 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Member VRWC - Volvo-owning right-wing conspiracy, and now my first Mac. Seen my Berkinstocks?)
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To: Inspectorette

This is a story that should go national.

It want change a thing, the law is the law.

We have the same law here in Tn. and it sucks!!!
I had a Gray Squirrel I was able to keep (in house) for 14 years. I received her when she was a baby, and was able to save her life.
If you should find yourself in this situation with a wild animal, keep your mouth shut and, the blinds pulled. Nosey neighbors can not be trusted, this is how I was able to keep the squirrel. Unfortunately, I lost the animal this past spring, she died of old age. We shared many happy moments together, she loved to play and run wild in our house.


77 posted on 09/13/2007 6:26:52 AM PDT by buck61
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To: Inspectorette

78 posted on 09/13/2007 6:31:03 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFsiZ2l2K5U)
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To: 8mmMauser

PETA Snuffs Critters, not to Grill, just to Kill

There, now its a bumper sticker


79 posted on 09/13/2007 6:46:06 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: CDHart
Carolyn, thank you. Here's the latest from The Fishwrapper this morning:

Family forced to heed call of the wild
Pets - A Molalla couple try in vain to keep Oregon authorities from taking the two deer they raised

Thursday, September 13, 2007
JESSICA BRUDER
The Oregonian

MOLALLA -- For more than eight hours Wednesday, a Molalla family pleaded with police and wildlife officers to take away their trailer and dart gun and let them keep two deer they'd raised as pets.

"These deer wouldn't even be alive without us," said Jim Filipetti, 43, who was working in Bend Wednesday and negotiating by phone. "I brought that deer (Snowball) to the vet every 10 days. We raised it in our house. And they want to take her away. It's ridiculous."

But after a day of tears, frantic phone calls and failed compromises, officers darted Snowball, a mottled 6-year-old doe, and Bucky, her yearling buck, and prepared to haul them away. The animals will be evaluated, with three possible outcomes: transfer to a licensed wildlife facility, release into the wild or euthanasia.

"It broke our heart," said 39-year-old Francesca Mantei, Filipetti's partner of 17 years, gesturing toward Snowball. "That one's a family member."

Under state law, it is illegal to keep most wildlife in captivity without a permit.

Don VandeBergh, a state wildlife official at the scene, cited health and disease issues and said the deer "belong to everybody in the state of Oregon, not just a few people." As for confiscating them, he added, "It's not part of our job we enjoy doing."

Six years ago, Mantei said, an ordinary morning took a turn for the exotic when Filipetti was driving some of their six children to catch a school bus. Lying on the roadside was a white fawn, dappled with brown spots. She was weak, with deformed back legs and hooves that curved inward, cutting her when she tried to walk.

Filipetti scooped her up and brought her home. He took her to a veterinarian in Woodburn, who fitted her deformed legs with tiny casts to straighten them, changing the casts every 10 days. At home, they put carpet scraps on the wood floors to keep Snowball from slipping. And come holiday season, they let Snowball nibble their Christmas tree.

The doe lived in the house for almost a year, Mantei said. She slept at their bedside and picked up mannerisms from the family dog -- Tasha, a cocker spaniel -- pawing at people with a hoof when she wanted attention.

Later she moved to an enclosure in their yard, where she mated with a blind buck, Mr. Magoo, who lived with the family briefly before he died.

In March, police received a tip from an anonymous source -- Mantei believes it was an estranged family member -- that the couple were keeping deer on their property. State troopers inspected the grounds in early April.

Then, about 8:30 a.m. Wednesday, Mantei went to the front door to find the police had returned.

In some circumstances, the state licenses residents to care for deer or elk, but that would be impossible in this case, said Larry Cooper, deputy administrator of the wildlife division of the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife. >The state limits the number of licenses to 16, and none is available. In addition, Filipetti and Mantei don't meet one of the requirements: Animals must be legally acquired.

"The right thing to do would have been to contact us" when Filipetti discovered the doe, Cooper said.

In captivity, the buck poses a hazard, Cooper said, especially during the fall breeding season, when males become aggressive and sometimes attack people with their hooves or horns. State wildlife officials have sometimes been amazed at how little appreciation people have for the potential hazards of bringing wild animals into their homes. Two years ago, wildlife officials removed a black bear from Rocky and Jonathan Perkett, a father and son who brought the bear into their Coos Bay-area home as a cub and raised it for two years as a member of the family.

The bear ate pizza, slept in Jonathan Perkett's bed, took showers and even had her fur blow-dried. "We treated her like a daughter," Rocky Perkett said at the time.

Some animal lovers are moved by such stories, but they make wildlife officials cringe. "The animal is a wild animal, and the end result is to get it back to the wild," Cooper said. "Can it survive in the wild? I don't know."

Reporter Steve Mayes of The Oregonian contributed to this report.
Jessica Bruder: 503-294-5915; jessicabruder@news.oregonian.com

80 posted on 09/13/2007 7:00:14 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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