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September 13, 1944: Thomas Dewey's Reply To President Roosevelt's War Address

Posted on 09/13/2007 5:23:01 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

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Not a real speech of course, but the paraphrases of real quotes by real "opposition" candidates are linked to the latest Democrat operative debate.

It is OUTRAGEOUS to me that Democrats, in a time of war, are demanding rebuttal.

When, during WWII, arguably the last combat world-wide war we fought (WWIII being the Cold War, fought largely without combat forces) did the OPPOSITION party bitch and moan constantly about the Commander-in-Chief and his generals?

1 posted on 09/13/2007 5:23:02 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I think it's true that throughout history, republicans supported democrat presidents in time of war. Democrats are just filthy rotten pigs.

I distinctly recall Trent Lott and republicans making only the nicest and subtlest noises when Clinton took military action in Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq. Or during Carter's Iran disaster.

But democrats made pigs of themselves during every military action under republican presidents. A vile classless bunch.

2 posted on 09/13/2007 5:29:36 PM PDT by Williams
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“It is OUTRAGEOUS to me that Democrats, in a time of war, are demanding rebuttal.”

AMEN!!!!


3 posted on 09/13/2007 5:29:41 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Drives the point home quite well.


4 posted on 09/13/2007 5:30:19 PM PDT by dighton
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“…Tonight, a nation eager for change in Europe heard the President speak about his plans for the future.

But once again, the President failed to provide either a plan to successfully end the war or a convincing rationale to continue it.

The President rightfully invoked the valor of our troops in his speech, but his plan does not amount to real change.

Soldiers take a solemn oath to protect our nation, and we have a solemn responsibility to send them into battle only with clear and achievable missions.

Tonight, the President provided neither…”

“…So tonight, we find ourselves at a critical moment.

Do we continue to heed the President's call that Europe needs more time, more of our money, and the indefinite presence of thousands of American troops -- exactly the same number as nine months ago?

Or do we follow what is in our nation's best interest and redefine our mission in Europe?

Republicans believe it is time to change course.

We think it's wrong that the President tells us there's not enough money for our welfare because he is spending $10 billion a year in Europe.

We have put forth a plan to responsibly and rapidly begin a reduction of our troops in Europe…”

“…An endless and unlimited military presence in Europe is not an option.

Democrats and Republicans in Congress and throughout the nation can not and must not stand idly by while our interests throughout the world are undermined and our Armed Forces are stretched toward the breaking point.

We intend to exercise our Constitutional duties and profoundly change our military involvement in Europe…”Lil' Jackie Reed

5 posted on 09/13/2007 5:30:19 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: dighton; keepitreal

See post five. Re-edited version of what Democrat operative Jack Reed will say tonight in his Surrender Speech.


6 posted on 09/13/2007 5:31:13 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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Sorry RD, but I don’t get the point of this posting ... did or did not Dewey make this speech?


7 posted on 09/13/2007 5:32:47 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Teddy Roosevelt would slap the Democrats around like little kids. They need a wake-up call, and quick.


8 posted on 09/13/2007 5:46:14 PM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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Did not. It’s a parody, along the lines of, “If the GOP had taken Reid/Pelosi/Demos’ approach during WW2 ...”


9 posted on 09/13/2007 5:49:07 PM PDT by pogo101
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This thread is an insult to Thomas Dewey. I really think that it is poor satire. Thomas Dewey never made any such speech. In fact nobody would have made this speech in 1944.
10 posted on 09/13/2007 5:49:30 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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What the defeatists of today would have said in World War II would include:

Why in November 1942 is FDR fighting the Germans in North Africa? After all, it was not the Germans who attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7th.

The only thing the President was doing at that time in the Pacific was to send Marines to fight in a quagmire on an island named Guadalcanal. The island is no where near Japan. Obviously, FDR was failing in his promise to bring Admiral Yammamoto to justice.

If the defeatists of today had been around in 1942, we’d never have won World War II.


11 posted on 09/13/2007 6:25:20 PM PDT by stratman1969 (This space for rent)
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If American ever wakes up to the rottenness that is at the core of this democratic party, a generation will pass before one ever sits in the White house again.


12 posted on 09/13/2007 6:28:29 PM PDT by Keflavik76
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>> This thread is an insult to Thomas Dewey.

I think the poster could have done a better job making it clear, up front, that Thomas Dewey (indeed, an honorable man) never gave this speech.

However, the “what if this is how they acted in WWII” meme is VERY relevant and VERY important to consider.

Why did you contact the Admin Moderator, P-Marlowe? So he would pull the thread? I think that’s quite a bit over the top and I don’t agree at all that it needs to be “admin moderated”.


13 posted on 09/13/2007 6:34:01 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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Why did you contact the Admin Moderator, P-Marlowe? So he would pull the thread? I think that’s quite a bit over the top

These thread fall into search engines all over the world and this could end up as a stain on the reputation of Thomas Dewey at some point in the future. This so-called speech could get picked up by someone who didn't realize it was a lousy piece of satire and the next thing you know future generations will judge Thomas Dewey to be some kind of seditious traitor.

So yes, I would like this thread pulled. It is not funny and it is not creative. It posts a picture of a fine man in a false light.

I'm pinging the Admin Moderator again. Hopefully he will see fit to pull this thread.

14 posted on 09/13/2007 6:38:28 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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>> These thread fall into search engines all over the world and this could end up as a stain on the reputation of Thomas Dewey at some point in the future. This so-called speech could get picked up by someone who didn’t realize it was a lousy piece of satire and the next thing you know future generations will judge Thomas Dewey to be some kind of seditious traitor. So yes, I would like this thread pulled. It is not funny and it is not creative. It posts a picture of a fine man in a false light. I’m pinging the Admin Moderator again. Hopefully he will see fit to pull this thread.

Unbelievably far-fetched that this post would become part of a historical revision of Thomas Dewey! I can scarcely believe I’m actually reading that.

And, no, it wasn’t funny. It wasn’t intended to be. In my humble opinion, it IS creative. I personally would like to see a whole BOOK that works on this meme of “how the fifth column lost WWII” — including the obvious ending! Maybe it should be written in German or Japanese, with English subtitles!

Yes, this attempt may be a tiny bit clumsy, but so what. This isn’t a scholarly journal, it’s an opinion site. Anyway, I’m betting the poster has learned from this. Peer moderation works.

Pulling the thread would be an asinine over-reaction. Lighten up and get over yourself.


15 posted on 09/13/2007 6:48:48 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Democrats are not to be taken seriously on any issue relevant to the future of this country. Their primary interest is in buying votes by handing out Federal money.


16 posted on 09/13/2007 7:04:37 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: wastedyears

“They need a wake-up call, and quick.”

They need to shut up, and quick, or get the stuffing knocked out of them politically.


17 posted on 09/13/2007 7:07:08 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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This thread is an insult to Thomas Dewey.

Below is an interesting page from Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor, by Robert Stinnett.

It seems Gov. Dewey, who was running against FDR in 1944, had planned to charge FDR with having advanced knowledge of the Japs' plan to attack Pearl Harbor and failing to warn the commanders there. But General Marshall talked him out of hit on the basis that going forward would warn the Japs that the naval codes they were currently using had been broken.


18 posted on 09/13/2007 7:09:02 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Recovering_Democrat

How about your indicating in the title that it’s a satire?


19 posted on 09/13/2007 7:17:13 PM PDT by kenavi (Save romance. Stop teen sex.)
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I wouldn’t trust that book as far as I could throw it.


20 posted on 09/13/2007 7:21:54 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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