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GOV TAKING LICENSE WITH ALIEN-DRIVER ID
NEW YORK POST ^ | September 22, 2007 | KENNETH LOVETT

Posted on 09/22/2007 6:01:01 AM PDT by kellynla

September 22, 2007 -- ALBANY - Gov. Spitzer announced yesterday that illegal immigrants will get driver's licenses - but at a cost to legal citizens because they'll now be useless as airport ID. Spitzer said the state would no longer require a Social Security number or proof that a person is not eligible for such a number in order to qualify for a driver's license.

That change clashes with the 2005 REAL ID law passed by Congress that states require, among other things, a Social Security number in order to get a license. States have until December 2009 to be in compliance.

States that fail to meet the standards will lose their certification by the Department of Homeland Security, meaning that driver's licenses in those states will no longer be valid for air travel, entry to federal facilities and for tax purposes.

Travelers will now have to carry a second form of ID, like a passport, which was met with criticism yesterday.

"To outright dismiss the security needs of our state and nation and provide illegal aliens documentation is dangerous and inconceivable," said Sen. Dale Volker (R-Depew).

"Gov. Spitzer should not view New York state driver's licenses like baseball cards - handing them out just to score political points."

Rep. Peter King (R-L.I.), the ranking member on the House Committee on Homeland Security, said: "I strongly disagree with giving state-authorized IDs to illegal immigrants. More importantly, this proposal raises serious homeland-security concerns."

New York is the eighth state to give licenses to undocumented aliens.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; dmv; driverslicenses; illegals; newyork; realid; realidact; spitzer
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New York is the eighth state to give licenses to illegal aliens.
1 posted on 09/22/2007 6:01:03 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

UGH! Spitzer sucks! Can we NYers recall this clown?


2 posted on 09/22/2007 6:05:31 AM PDT by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: kellynla
What I haven't seen defined is whether or not there is a notation on the license as to the person's legal status.

Does the driver's test require the ability to read signs in english?

What ID is used to register to vote?

Background check?

3 posted on 09/22/2007 6:05:34 AM PDT by n230099 ("Obama wouldn't know the difference between an RPG and a bong." John McCain)
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; Travis McGee

ping

Notice they always do this underhanded stuff Fridays late in the day...


4 posted on 09/22/2007 6:08:03 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

The next step is to let them vote.


5 posted on 09/22/2007 6:08:21 AM PDT by guinnessman
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To: kellynla
Well, Upstate's rapidly becoming a ghost town. Spitzer must figger this is the only way he can repopulate his nanny state.

Note to the nation: Keep voting for 'Rats and RINOs and all this, too, can be yours....

6 posted on 09/22/2007 6:10:46 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: blinachka
UGH! Spitzer sucks! Can we NYers recall this clown?

Upstate needs its own state. That is the only answer.

7 posted on 09/22/2007 6:11:27 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: n230099

“What ID is used to register to vote?”

driver’s license...

that is the whole fraud behind this drivers licnse BS

everyone knows that aliens can drive anywhere in America with their country of origin’s drivers license.
What the Lefties want is these illegals to be able to go to the DMV, apply for a drivers license and then go to the next window and REGISTER TO VOTE...all in one swoop!


8 posted on 09/22/2007 6:11:52 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: guinnessman

read my post #8


9 posted on 09/22/2007 6:12:52 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

You’re absolutely right.


10 posted on 09/22/2007 6:17:20 AM PDT by guinnessman
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To: n230099
This is what happens when people who can't speak or read English are given drivers licenses.

Willis' speak up at Ryan sentencing

11 posted on 09/22/2007 6:20:45 AM PDT by guinnessman
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To: n230099
What I haven't seen defined is whether or not there is a notation on the license as to the person's legal status.

Does the driver's test require the ability to read signs in english?

What ID is used to register to vote?

Background check?

No.

No.

None.

No.

Glad I could help. :-)

12 posted on 09/22/2007 6:21:32 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: kellynla
everyone knows that aliens can drive anywhere in America with their country of origin’s drivers license.

Yes, or they can also use an international driving license.

However, I believe that the problem for any foreigner, legal or not, isn't with driving as such --- it's insurance.

While with a rental car a foreigner can use a foreign or international driving license to get insurance via the rental company, I don't believe that for a personal vehicle that any U.S. insurance company will insure the driver unless he has a valid U.S. driving license.

13 posted on 09/22/2007 6:34:04 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: kellynla

Spitz is a Democrat.
NY is a Dhimmocratic state.
What else do you need to know?


14 posted on 09/22/2007 6:50:18 AM PDT by Flintlock (-)
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To: kellynla

I renewed my DL the other day. One of the questions on the form was “are you in this country legally?”, and six “points” of ID were required. My passport was four points, my current photo DL one point, and my real estate license one point. I could have used my DD-214 for two points.

I also had to prove my address with a recent utility bill.

Can any New York FReepers give a comparison of their application process?


15 posted on 09/22/2007 6:58:11 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: JimRed; admin

kellynla

“this account has been banned or suspended”.

What’d she do???


16 posted on 09/22/2007 7:03:14 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: kellynla

NY elected Spitzer. Now they can live with the results.


17 posted on 09/22/2007 7:11:33 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: JimRed
kellynla

“this account has been banned or suspended”.

Bizarre. There ought to be at least a simple explanation as to why a ban or suspension.

18 posted on 09/22/2007 7:14:12 AM PDT by Sterlis (My brain is full.....)
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To: JimRed
bttt
19 posted on 09/22/2007 7:18:19 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: kellynla

When I registered to vote (albeit not in New York), I had to present only a signature (or other mark if illiterate) indicating affirmation to a statement of citizenship and eligibility. I also had to provide a name and address to place me in the proper precinct. No other form of identification was required or expected. The affirmation of citizenship deters aliens from voting quite effectively unless they’re Democrats or feign a lack of understanding of English.


20 posted on 09/22/2007 7:21:02 AM PDT by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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