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Ron Paul: Highways claim more than 9/11 killed
Baltimore Sun ^ | 9/22/07 | Rick Pearson

Posted on 09/23/2007 10:47:55 AM PDT by LdSentinal

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul contends that the federal government has overreacted by limiting personal freedom in the wake of terrorist attacks six years ago, noting more people die on U.S. highways in less than a month’s time compared to the number who lost their lives on Sept. 11, 2001.

“We have been told that we have to give up our freedoms in order to be safe because terrorism is such a horrible event,” Paul said today to more than 1,000 supporters who attended a rally at a downtown Chicago hotel ballroom.

“A lot fewer lives died on 9/11 than they do in less than a month on our highways, but once again, who owns the highways? Do we own the highways? No. It’s a government institution you know. …We need to put all this in perspective.”

More than 2,970 people were reported dead in the terrorist attacks in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. Federal highway traffic statistics show an average of 3,509 people a month were killed on the nation’s highways in 2001.

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Ron Turd seems to be unaware that there were 50,000 people in the Twin Towers on 9/11.

9/11 was an attempt to kill 50,000+ people.

1 posted on 09/23/2007 10:47:57 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

Another reason not to vote for Ron Paul. As if we need another.


2 posted on 09/23/2007 10:49:07 AM PDT by Rocko ( "Where's the global warming? It's freezing in here." -- Bob Dylan)
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To: LdSentinal
9/11 was an attempt to kill 50,000+ people.

The fact that only about 3000 died was a miracle itself. We can't depend on miracles to save us.

3 posted on 09/23/2007 10:51:08 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: LdSentinal

4 posted on 09/23/2007 10:51:42 AM PDT by Allegra (The Surge Works While the Democrats "Betray Us.")
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To: LdSentinal
Paulbarers, come on and agree that the people murdered on 9/11 should not be counted.
5 posted on 09/23/2007 10:53:12 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: LdSentinal

6 posted on 09/23/2007 10:53:31 AM PDT by lormand (Anti-Iraq War kooks need to GTFO of FreeRepublic)
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To: LdSentinal

Indeed, more kids die in pools that are raped and killed by pedophiles, so why get so upset about it.

Even in 1941, there were likely more vehicular deaths than those killed at Pearl Harbor.

What a loser.


7 posted on 09/23/2007 10:54:01 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

The proper term is “Paul Qaeda”.


8 posted on 09/23/2007 10:54:39 AM PDT by counterpunch (Mitt and Kerry wish you a great Pride Weekend.)
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To: Ron "Fecal" Paul

So do natural causes, you repulsive moron.

9 posted on 09/23/2007 10:54:54 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: LdSentinal
Highways don't kill people (except for an occasional bridge collapse). SUVs kill people.
11 posted on 09/23/2007 10:55:19 AM PDT by NautiNurse (McClatchy News report: Half the nation's families earn below the median family income)
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To: LdSentinal

I’m sorry. I didn’t realize there was a concerted effort by terrorists to kill people on the highways. There’s a lot of lethal stupidity, to be sure, but that’s not the same thing.


12 posted on 09/23/2007 10:55:46 AM PDT by RichInOC (...make the stupid people shut up.)
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To: LdSentinal

The Paulistinians are at it again. Gads, this guy’s a jack***.


13 posted on 09/23/2007 10:56:26 AM PDT by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: jrooney

A big Texas embarassment. There is a rock out there waiting for Ron Paul to crawl back under. RON!!!!!! Your rock is calling.........


14 posted on 09/23/2007 10:57:59 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: LdSentinal

Comparing car accidents to mass-murdering terrorists is particularly inapt. We can be extremely confident that deaths from car accidents will occur at roughly the same rate from year to year because they are accidents. However, with regard to terrorists, we have no such assurance. In fact, history is with replete with examples where mass-murderers who were initially ignored then went on to kill even greater numbers. This isn’t rocket-science and the fact that Ron Paul doesn’t get it calls into question is basic sanity.


15 posted on 09/23/2007 10:58:06 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: LdSentinal

Ron has lost every bit of credibility he had left. Now he is a terrorist apologist. How disgusting.


16 posted on 09/23/2007 10:59:30 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: LdSentinal

Keep digging, Ron.


17 posted on 09/23/2007 11:00:05 AM PDT by Zman516 (socialists & muslims -- satan's useful idiots.)
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To: shankbear
According to my brother in south Houston in Ron Paul’s district, the people are hearing his words and watching his actions and the republican voters there have a nice surprise for Ron Paul. They are going to send his sorry arse packing from Congress after he loses the POTUS race. The Libertards, independents and democrats will not be able to save his pathetic arse from the big boot.
18 posted on 09/23/2007 11:01:02 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: LdSentinal

Is the highway trying to kill me with the worst weapons known to mankind?

Duh.


19 posted on 09/23/2007 11:01:44 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: LdSentinal

“...compared to the number who lost their lives on Sept. 11, 2001.”

It’s not about those who *have* died. It’s about those Americans who *will* die if radical islam isn’t brought under control.


20 posted on 09/23/2007 11:02:05 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: LdSentinal

Ron Paul doesn’t take terrorism seriously at all.

He probably doesn’t even believe terrorists attacked us on 9/11...

I bet Al-Qaeda’s minions are praying to allah everyday that someone like ron paul will be elected, so that we will take the heat off of them and allow them to kill and maim with no threat of us intervening.


21 posted on 09/23/2007 11:03:32 AM PDT by Tears of a Clown
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To: LdSentinal

Twenty posts and not a peep from the Paulestinian Liberation Organization on FR.


22 posted on 09/23/2007 11:05:47 AM PDT by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: LdSentinal

Now we have Ron Paul — comparing the 9/11 attack against the United States to accidents that occur on our highways!

Hell, I’m disappointed he didn’t use the the fact that MORE U.S. deaths/murders are caused by ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS in ONE YEAR than have been killed in FIVE YEARS in the war against Islamists.

He could have made a better case to bring the troops home to defend the borders against this invasion of thieves, murderers, drugs lords and destroyers of our national education and health systems.

Can folks still not see that Ron Paul in a VERY flawed individual who is totally unsuitable for any position of public trust or responsible for national security...


23 posted on 09/23/2007 11:09:23 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: LdSentinal
Heh punk arse Ron Paul, we lose 3500 citizens every month in traffic accidents on our roads, well we have only lost little over 4000 troops in 6 years fighting terrorists in two wars. These are volunteers for military that are armed trained professionals fighting those that attacked us on 9/11, not citizens in vehicles that most control their own fates. Ron Paul you are a disgrace!
24 posted on 09/23/2007 11:11:48 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: LdSentinal
“A lot fewer lives died on 9/11 than they do in less than a month on our highways, but once again, who owns the highways? Do we own the highways? No. It’s a government institution you know. …We need to put all this in perspective.”

And putting things in perspective is why Ron Paul hasn't a gnat's of a chance to pop a vein while working out of the Oval Office.

25 posted on 09/23/2007 11:12:59 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: jrooney; shankbear
They have a chance of defeating him in the GOP primary this year don't they?

Who is running against him in the GOP primary, if there is someone.

If there is one, we need to counter the TehRon Paul spam here and support this guy/gal.

26 posted on 09/23/2007 11:14:12 AM PDT by lormand (Anti-Iraq War kooks need to GTFO of FreeRepublic)
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To: LdSentinal

Yeah this is a standard gripe of libertarians - the loss of civil liberties due to the WOT. However the strategy of belittling the deaths of 3000 people in an act of war by comparing it to accidental deaths is a poorly thought out political strategy worthy of common BDS sufferers.

The issue with the WOT should always be are we serious about this or not? If we are serious it will demand sacrifice. No, the WOT is not WWII but the country was committed to that war (with the help of a healthy Government propaganda campaign). Those citizens sacrificed many many of their civil liberties as well as their “blood and treasure” to win that war. They had no idea how long the war would last when they committed. Their commitment and sacrifice of civil liberties must surely have shortened that war.

If we are not serious about the WOT then why do we bother having a DoD? We might as well have Kucinich’s Department of Peace. In modern warfare there will be no more well uniformed armed forces storming our beaches. There will only be un-uniformed forces working against us world-wide. Which battlefield will you choose, Congressman Paul? Where will you make your stand?


27 posted on 09/23/2007 11:16:50 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: LdSentinal; SSS Two; fieldmarshaldj; ExTexasRedhead; JulieRNR21

Ron Paul once did good work. Hopefullly, after he retires, his public bout of senility will be a distant memory.


28 posted on 09/23/2007 11:17:36 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: lormand
No solid candidate has come forward yet but they are looking for one. Comments like Paul’s here will probably expedite the search. A conservative used car salesman in south Houston will get more GOP votes than Ron Paul.
29 posted on 09/23/2007 11:18:10 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: LdSentinal
If you could stop pointing and shrieking long enough to pay attention to what's being said, you might learn something. You're about as likely to be killed by a lightning strike as by a terrorist attack. The government's post-9/11 legislation was an overreaction and we do need to keep it in perspective.
30 posted on 09/23/2007 11:18:30 AM PDT by JTN (If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.)
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To: LdSentinal

Uh huh. And more people die on the highways in less than a month’s time than the total deaths of US troops in Iraq since 2003.

So, even by your own twisted logic, Ron, one has no choice but to conclude that you shouldn’t be in such a big rush to “just bring the troops home.”


31 posted on 09/23/2007 11:18:31 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger
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To: LdSentinal
9/11 was an attempt to kill 50,000+ people.

(my best recollection...)
"Do you have any doubt that if they could, they would have
killed 70,000 people?"


That's my best recollection from a speech given by Tony Blair
during the immediate aftermath of 9-11, when estimates of losses
hovered around 7,000).

Of course, thanks to the reportage of our Mainstream Media
and ABC's decision to NOT produce a DVD of their "Path to 9-11"
docudrama...
lots of Americans don't know that the first attack on the WTC was
done with the hope of toppling the WTCs and having them fall onto
other nearby office buildings...for maximal casualties of infidels.
And even Muslims that were in the building.
32 posted on 09/23/2007 11:20:19 AM PDT by VOA
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You're about as likely to be killed by a lightning strike as by a terrorist attack.

Source?

33 posted on 09/23/2007 11:20:41 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: LdSentinal

Nor can he distinguish between accidents and deliberate malicious acts.

I’m ashamed to admit that I have voted for him. That was a long time ago, and won’t happen again. Ever.


35 posted on 09/23/2007 11:20:45 AM PDT by null and void (<---- Awake and filled with a terrible resolve...)
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To: keat
Twenty posts and not a peep from the Paulestinian Liberation Organization on FR.

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Ron Paul? Who is this infidel with two first names? I pick the Ron Paul booger and fling it upon this reeking heap of goat dung to show Allah's hatred for this non-believer.

36 posted on 09/23/2007 11:22:06 AM PDT by RoadKingSE
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To: LdSentinal
More people die from old age too. That's just not the point. People choose to take the risks associated with driving; and a hefty percentage of those who suffer, suffer due to their own errors. Not so with terrorism. Ron Paul is comparing apples and oranges. He might as well say more people die from cancer than from murder so why is the government so concerned about murder?

You can compare risks of different kinds of travel, significance of any given disease (the gov't tends to pick and choose unfairly in that area) or even crime to crime. But you can't compare crime/terrorism to traffic accidents and make any legitimate point.

37 posted on 09/23/2007 11:22:21 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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38 posted on 09/23/2007 11:23:38 AM PDT by RightWhale (25 degrees today. Phase state change accomplished.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The harder this klown tries to prove his relevancy and viability as a public servant, the more he displays the exact opposite.

As attractive as his calls for more limited government may be, in the end he just sounds like a crackpot. The thing about crackpots and village idiots - they are usually totally oblivious to how embarrassing they are.


39 posted on 09/23/2007 11:24:37 AM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: LdSentinal

What a freaking moron!


40 posted on 09/23/2007 11:24:41 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: LdSentinal

Seriously, I know Ron’s running for president. I’m just not sure he understands what country he’s campaigning in, much less what party.


41 posted on 09/23/2007 11:25:19 AM PDT by RichInOC (...make the stupid people shut up.)
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To: LdSentinal

The man seems incapable of discerning between conspiracy mingled with evil with the ultimate goal of mass murder, and americans excercising their freedom by travelling on our roads, inadvertently screwing up, and crashing.


42 posted on 09/23/2007 11:27:54 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: JTN

“If you could stop pointing and shrieking long enough to pay attention to what’s being said, you might learn something.”

Which do you consider the greater threat, Islamic Terrorism or the Federal Government?


43 posted on 09/23/2007 11:28:58 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Support Ron Paul. He's against abortion just like he's against earmarks. Sometimes.)
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To: LdSentinal; Petronski

A ridiculous and clueless line of reasoning, IMO, and I’ve been willing to defend Paul on domestic/economic issues.


44 posted on 09/23/2007 11:30:06 AM PDT by oblomov (So, am I left with Duncan Hunter as the only viable option?)
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To: JTN

Hey, and you are not too likely to be murdered either. So why not cut back on homicide divisions in police departments? So what about justice when it’s those other guys who are dead?


45 posted on 09/23/2007 11:32:15 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: LdSentinal

Okay, whether or not the security measures have gone too far is a legitimate thing to debate, but this comparison in what appears to be an effort to minimize 9/11 is digusting and shows a lack of basic character. Hopefully he will be out of Congress soon as well. Is he being primaried, I hope?


46 posted on 09/23/2007 11:33:04 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: RichInOC

Ron is just like any internet troll- an attention-getting jerk, who may or may not believe the crazy things he says.

As a poster, he would be banned from FR.


47 posted on 09/23/2007 11:34:19 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: rhombus
Source?

There are many. Here's one:

A false sense of insecurity? How does the risk of terrorism measure up against everyday dangers?

For all the attention it evokes, terrorism actually causes rather little damage and the likelihood that any individual will become a victim in most places is microscopic. Those adept at hyperbole like to proclaim that we live in "the age of terror." However, while obviously deeply tragic for those directly involved, the number of people worldwide who die as a result of international terrorism is generally only a few hundred a year, tiny compared to the numbers who die in most civil wars or from automobile accidents. In fact, in almost all years, the total number of people worldwide who die at the hands of international terrorists anywhere in the world is not much more than the number who drown in bathtubs in the United States.

Until 2001, far fewer Americans were killed in any grouping of years by all forms of international terrorism than were killed by lightning, and almost none of those terrorist deaths occurred within the United States itself. Even with the September 11 attacks included in the count, the number of Americans killed by international terrorism since the late 1960s (which is when the State Department began counting) is about the same as the number of Americans killed over the same period by lightning, accident-causing deer, or severe allergic reaction to peanuts.


48 posted on 09/23/2007 11:35:28 AM PDT by JTN (If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.)
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To: JTN

Ron Paul supporters on FR are sort of like naturalized trolls.


49 posted on 09/23/2007 11:36:16 AM PDT by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: LdSentinal
People like Run Paul will search for an reason to appease al Qaeda and to rationalize his cowardice and that of those who support this idiot.
50 posted on 09/23/2007 11:38:12 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
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