Posted on 09/27/2007 9:59:58 AM PDT by kbingham
excuse me.. there is a difference between those of Hispanic heritage and those who just swam or jumped their way here. First ones are Citizens, the latter ones are illegals... don’t mix them up for your agenda. Believe it or not the majority of Americans of Hispanic heritage want the illegals out.
Just beneath the surface of all the Hispanic, legal and illegal, claims of rights in the US and claims of huge contributions to US history is the regrettable fact that all the Hispanic nations are huge failures. And if Hispanics can’t be part of the US, then most of them have no hope of any opportunity beyond a subsistence or very much lower economic class existence. We don’t hear much about what great contributions they’ve made to the nations where they’re large majorities.
But nothing is ever done to change the reasons for the chronic failures of those nations. And some about to make matters worse (again) by chasing the socialist solution once again. And our government is beyond negligent for allowing and even encouraging this situation for decades.
Maybe the situation is being turned around by the American citizens, but that’s by no means certain yet.
“Hispanic Heritage Month (September 15-October 15) gives all Americans the chance to gain insight into the nation’s largest minority”.....Maybe THEY should gain some insight into the nation THEY are living in and Celebrate American Heritage (October 16-September 14) by learning english!
While I admire them for their quest, they need to come here legally and orderly. On the other hand, we need to overhaul the immigration system so that people from ALL the world who are hard-working and honorable get a fair shake and a timely review for their petition to become Americans.
But you can't just walk across the border and demand your rights. If you're here illegally, you have no rights, save for the right to humane deportation.
Vicente Fox will be greatly saddened, but he can't send all his workers here to mail money home. Mexico needs to fix itself. They have all the ingredients for success and prosperity. What about that, Vicente?
“Hispanic Heritage Month (September 15-October 15) gives all Americans the chance to gain insight into the nation’s largest minority”.
I’d like to gain more insight into why the nations America’s largest majority comes from are such failures, and what it would take to fix them. Maybe that can be the theme of “Hispanic Heritage Month” this year. If answers could be found and implemented, it would benefit the entire Western Hemisphere.
And whether you like it or not most of those millions of legal latinos speak English, pay taxes, have insurance, and are just as threatened by the illegals as are the rest of us.
The economic and legal issues you cite are going to be with us as long as there are socialists and elitists ready to buy votes and enforce relativism on society - that is what is not going away.
The whole diversity gimmick is a culture war against the USA, waged from within the USA as well as from without. THAT is what we and the legal immigrants and native born but of foreign extraction (who no one here is trying to disenfranchise) need to be fighting.
These Illegal advocates are pimping for something and I think what they will get isn’t what they want.
The new CW is coming and there are many more than 40 million Americans who are fed up with these thieves!
“On the other hand, we need to overhaul the immigration system so that people from ALL the world who are hard-working and honorable get a fair shake and a timely review for their petition to become Americans.”
Sounds nice on the surface, but how many??? There are easily two or three BILLION who would qualify under your criteria there. We can’t solve the problem of third world poverty with immigration to the US, but we can certainly turn large parts of the US into a third world nation.
We currently allow 950,000 legal immigrants each year, and around 100,000 refugees, PLUS, whatever small amnesty and increase in work visas are allowed in an given year. Some of the versions of the so-called ‘comprehensive’ reform bill would have allowed in four to five million per year.
We all need to stop talking in nice general terms and start talking numbers per year, or Congress will pass something that will cause a flood that will make the current situation look like nothing.
But the key is that anyone petitioning to become an American will be self-supporting and not just a drain on our economy.
I don't care if you're a refugee from Darfur or Venezuela, if you're not going to work and support yourselves and be proud of AMERICA, you're not welcome.
Don't come here to send your money back to your real country and brag about your real country. We are not impressed.
If you're coming here to become AMERICANS, and you're with us, and you're not just supporting your real country, then bienvenidos. Otherwise, adios.
I think it wasn’t until 2000 that the census even counted Hispanics as a separate category.
“I agree that we need to focus on hard numbers. How many immigrants per year can we allow? I don’t know.”
For about a decade, the total entries, legal and illegal, have been in the 1.5 - 2.0 million per year, and maybe more some years when various small amnesties increased the legal numbers. Of course, it remains to be seen what will happen with the 12 - 20 million illegal aliens who’ve joined us since the 1986 amnesty.
But if we don’t get control of it soon, we’ll have de facto open borders within another decade or two, and long-term Democrat majority. And the Bush/Rove plan to win legions of Hispanic voters was always nothing but TexMex nonsense, IMO.
I am at the point where I just wish they would bring the ‘fight’ on. Let’s get it over with. Americans have nothing to lose at this point either. We have everything to gain, our country back.
I am sick of the whole thing now and am wanting a fight. Our government from local on up has totally failed American citizens. It is time to make the politicians choose....citizens or aliens.
I wonder how many others feel the same?
They were first-rate heroes who were treated like second-class citizens. And all they wanted was to be considered Americans.
“I think it wasn’t until 2000 that the census even counted Hispanics as a separate category.”
But there have always been good estimates of the population makeup.
Medved actually agrees with him on his immigration stance on all point. Could someone please tell me what Medved's agenda is. I can't understand it.
“In many cases, we were in the United States first.”
No way were they in the United States first, because there was no United States until the English settlers created it, not the few Mexicans living in the southwest.
How much conquistador blood, and how much Mexican Indian blood does Navarrette have? I think we might have some conquistador smart-mouthing us about who was here first. Is he descended from Cortez or his soldiers?
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