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We came so close to World War Three that day (More Info)
The Spectator ^ | October 3, 2007 | James Forsyth and Douglas Davis

Posted on 10/04/2007 9:39:34 AM PDT by Parmenio

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To: George from New England
"I find it hard to believe that any bombing of such material would NOT result in some kind of release."

I know that it gets physicaly hotter the larger the volume unless seperated. And you can't expose uranium or plutonium metal to oxygen or it burns like thermite. Sort of like phosphorus, which isn't a metal.

Syria might have a whole bunch of holes burned into the ground permanantly that they can't hide. So everybody shuts up waiting for Syria to embarrass itself by complaining. Since they didn't complain, assume it was no other hardware than nuclear.

Also, the Israeli ECM crew has been onto their Russian air defense system before they bought it. The Syrians would have both their ends laughed at.

Iran is watching this. And they know Amidouchebag is too stupid to shut up. There was another general that defected recently.

281 posted on 10/04/2007 5:51:22 PM PDT by BobS (I><P>)
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To: jeffers
(Sorry jetters, this isn’t specifically to you, but you summarized the discusion and made a convenient slot for my 2 cents)

1. Several people mention the lack of radioactivity detected from the strike. Could the target have been located in an underground bunker (5 or more stories below ground)? Could it have been hit by a mini-nuke penetrator? Would fall out escape from such an attack?

2. I would have to guess that a nuclear bomb could be destroyed by an explosion with out detonating the bomb. I thought that the timing and forces needed for a fusion reaction were critical (I doubt they have fission)

3. Wasn’t there a few stories about (a?) B-52(s?) armed with nukes in the air around the same time as this strike took place.

4. Weren’t the Russians buzzing England and the Vikings with Bears around this time? (To the ww3 angle)

5. To the post about this being only an exchange between two countries...Does any one really think that if the “jews” nuke a Muslim country, that every moderate to fundamental Muslim with a rock, rifle, or grenade woun’t head to the nearest market place.

282 posted on 10/04/2007 6:35:10 PM PDT by Farmerbob (I long for the days when I was the dumbest person on FR)
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To: doorgunner69; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; al baby
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283 posted on 10/04/2007 6:52:50 PM PDT by null and void (<---- Living a life of quiet desperation...)
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To: Spktyr
Are you in the microwave engineering field? I am. I give the AF, Marines, Navy and Army good airborn radar components and they come back in about 6 months all beat up. Those AC/MC and airlift C-130s have the worst damaged parts. It's not easy repairing that stuff.

I want to go to Iraq and Afghan and talk to the pilots of these AC to find out what they are doing with my stuff. With Rush. In the chow halls in the morning and the O' Club for dinner. I left after my contract for six and want to see what they are doing now.

I want to see a war time flight line.

284 posted on 10/04/2007 7:03:41 PM PDT by BobS (I><P>)
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285 posted on 10/04/2007 7:28:31 PM PDT by Salem (What can men do against such reckless hate? ... Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them!)
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To: Parmenio

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286 posted on 10/04/2007 7:31:40 PM PDT by knews_hound (In order to not be banned, I no longer discuss Politics here.)
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287 posted on 10/04/2007 7:35:37 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: Parmenio

Has anyone considered whether this event had anything to do with that huge shorting of the stock market worth something like a billion dollars?


288 posted on 10/04/2007 7:46:26 PM PDT by Treeless Branch
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To: MarkL
I would like to say what my battle plans would be, but that would just start another big fuss over my "over reaction". Lets just say, the N. Koreans wouldn't have a chance to get many rounds off. I believe in overwhelming force. That includes EVERYTHING. The reason I made my first comment was to show I would make the battle short and sweet. I have little patience for playing back and forth body count. I like it more one sided. Also if a couple of nukes were used, maybe other provocateurs would figure I'm not playing around. They set off a nuke to start the mess in the first place.

Everybody's first reaction is conventional warfare. All that does is cause what we are in in Iraq right now. If Iran wants to have nukes, we should supply them with some in Tehran and Natanz. They think we don't have the will to stand up to them is why we are having these problems now. I feel sorry for the people that don't support the regime, but why do we have to wait for a mushroom cloud here before we get "real mad".

289 posted on 10/04/2007 7:48:07 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: The Bat Lady

Ping to thread about Israeli airstrike on Syria...


290 posted on 10/04/2007 7:50:06 PM PDT by TheSarce
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To: chuckles

Prevailing winds and geography would ensure that any nukes used against the NK forces would also end up destroying Seoul - either through blast effects or through fallout/radiaton. Do you think that killing millions of our ally’s citizens is a good idea?????


291 posted on 10/04/2007 8:31:25 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Um... the guard probably wasn’t carrying an AK as that is a Soviet/Russian/Chinese issue weapon, and not US issue... more like an AR

I caught that too

292 posted on 10/04/2007 8:40:29 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: al baby; Spktyr; y'all
Report: Iran worried over Syrian air defense failure in IAF strike 04/10/2007 (exerpt)

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/909608.html

Iran is concerned over the failure of Syria's air defense systems to detect the Israel Air Force non-stealth aircraft that reportedly carried out an attack inside Syria last month, the American weekly Aviation Week reported on its website on Wednesday.

According to the report, Israel was able to disrupt Syria's radar and air defense systems and render them ineffective during the IAF strike. The website reported that Israel used an electronic device, installed in a plane that circled the area, to disrupt Syria's defenses.

The weekly maintained that Iran is especially concerned over the failure of Syria's Russian-made radar systems. Iran has used similar systems in the past, and is slated to purchase more radar equipment in a future deal worth $750 million. This equipment is apparently designated to protect Iran's nuclear facilities against attacks from the air.

293 posted on 10/04/2007 9:06:09 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: BobS; HardStarboard; Matchett-PI; jeffers
"... Also, the Israeli ECM crew has been onto their Russian air defense system before they bought it. The Syrians would have both their ends laughed at.
Iran is watching this. And they know Amidouchebag is too stupid to shut up. There was another general that defected recently..."

This whole business leaves too many questions. The Nork ship was tracked from NK to Syria, but the contents not destroyed until off-loaded and verified, and then it was hit immediately, by Israel.

Everybody knows that the Russian anti-air-crap sold to Syria and Iran doesn't work, so they're easy targets, anytime! Everybody also knows that Iran and Syria have been supplying arms and people, that are killing American Forces yesterday and today.

But it was critical to destroy the Nork stuff quick!

Which means that the Nork stuff was dangerous right-outta-the-box, but whatever other mischief Syria and Iran are working on can be dealt with whenever it becomes too dangerous, or whenever it's politically advantageous to do so.

It seems like we should have disposed of Iran many months ago, and now that the Primary Season is upon us, with the dhimmicRATS losing their 'lose-the-war' impetus, it would be a good time to end the Syrian and Iranian involvement in Iraq.

Lotsa bombs falling would force the candidates to choose between winning and losing, and America loves a winner! .......................... FRegards

294 posted on 10/04/2007 9:08:03 PM PDT by gonzo (My Mother never understood the irony of calling me a 'son-of-a-bitch' ...)
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To: txflake
The comments on that article are interesting, too, like this one from a guy in Frankfurt:

There is feverish activity in Iran. The mullahs are stressed. They know now that there is no defence against the upcoming havoc. When the stealth bombers and the cruise missiles will arrive from every direction, the mullahs will even not know what happens to them, nor how to make contact with what used to be their forces.

US President Bush has given them a last warning, it is now up to them to make their choice. At the same time US support at home for action against a nuclear Iran is growing. The Holocaust deniers in Tehran are today in the same situation as the Holocaust perpetrators during the spring of 1944: They know it will happen, but they ignore where and when.

295 posted on 10/04/2007 9:10:11 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: gonzo

It seems like we should have disposed of Iran many months ago, and now that the Primary Season is upon us, with the dhimmicRATS losing their 'lose-the-war' impetus, it would be a good time to end the Syrian and Iranian involvement in Iraq.

'Bout time.

Re-write the ROE and it's over.

Lotsa bombs falling would force the candidates to choose between winning and losing, and America loves a winner! ..........................

Now that's some good collateral damage!
296 posted on 10/04/2007 9:18:25 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: jeffers

Of course we were involved in this. The mission training was done in the Arizona desert, we had assets in the region, and B52s in the air “training” at the same time.

Plus we gave them IFF codes.


297 posted on 10/04/2007 9:55:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Parmenio

*BUMP*!


298 posted on 10/04/2007 10:46:16 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: Parmenio
Israeli F151 jets were scrambled and, minutes later, the installation and its newly arrived contents were destroyed.

F-151? I never heard of it.
299 posted on 10/04/2007 11:46:18 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Treeless Branch

>>>Has anyone considered whether this event had anything to do with that huge shorting of the stock market worth something like a billion dollars?

If it was they lost their money. But the dates are close. The airstrike was Sept 6.

**$4.5 BILLION ‘Bin Laden Trade’ STOCK MARKET TO CRASH < SEP 21?** (Reminder: Today’s doomsday)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1899963/posts


300 posted on 10/05/2007 12:22:32 AM PDT by tlb
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