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Vatican book on Templars' demise
BBC ^ | October 5, 2007

Posted on 10/05/2007 1:44:55 PM PDT by NYer

The Vatican is to publish a book which is expected to shed light on the demise of the Knights Templar, a Christian military order from the Middle Ages.

The book is based on a document known as the Chinon parchment, found in the Vatican Secret Archives six years ago after years of being incorrectly filed.

The document is a record of the heresy hearings of the Templars before Pope Clement V in the 14th Century.

The official who found the paper says it exonerates the knights entirely.

Prof Barbara Frale, who stumbled across the parchment by mistake, says that it lays bare the rituals and ceremonies over which the Templars were accused of heresy.

In the hearings before Clement V, the knights reportedly admitted spitting on the cross, denying Jesus and kissing the lower back of the man proposing them during initiation ceremonies.

However, many of the confessions were obtained under torture and knights later recanted or tried to claim that their initiation ceremony merely mimicked the humiliation the knights would suffer if they fell into the hands of the Muslim leader Saladin.

The leader of the order, Jacques de Moley, was one of those who confessed to heresy, but later recanted.

He was burned at the stake in Paris in 1314, the same year that the Pope dissolved the order.

However, according to Prof Frale, study of the document shows that the knights were not heretics as had been believed for 700 years.

In fact she says "the Pope was obliged to ask for pardons from the knights... the document we have found absolves them".

Details of the parchment will be published as part of Processus contra Templarios, a book that will be released by the Vatican's Secret Archive on 25 October.


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To: NYer
"Where the bishop is, there is the catholic church"

Even THESE bishops?

21 posted on 10/05/2007 2:06:16 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: NYer

Keeping my eye on the woodwork to see what comes out of it ...


22 posted on 10/05/2007 2:06:21 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: mnehrling

You are correct. And the vatican went along with it because the great wealth of the Knights had made them a threat to the Church.


23 posted on 10/05/2007 2:06:59 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: NYer

Jacques de Molay, Thou art avenged.


24 posted on 10/05/2007 2:08:15 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: Joe Boucher
Soooo, who does the movie?

Sounds like a Mel Gibson Production.

25 posted on 10/05/2007 2:11:39 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: Joe Boucher

The Phillip the Fair on the Discovery looked just like John Edwards .


26 posted on 10/05/2007 2:12:02 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. F Troop)
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To: NCjim
Wonder what else is in the Vatican Secret Archives?

They aren't so secret - Vatican Secret Archives

27 posted on 10/05/2007 2:15:29 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Doomonyou
I would like to see a historically accurate movie instead of the DaVinci Code type conspiracy crap or a complete trashing like The Kingdom of Heaven.
28 posted on 10/05/2007 2:15:59 PM PDT by mnehring ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: NYer

It was all over money. The Templars were the defacto bankers of the European royalty. When the King of France couldn’t pay back his loans, he decided to have them trumped up on heresy charges...............


29 posted on 10/05/2007 2:16:00 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: ConservativeMind
Why did the Catholic church allow a falsehood to exist for 700 years?

Clerical error.......pun intended..........

30 posted on 10/05/2007 2:17:25 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger
When the King of France couldn’t pay back his loans, he decided to have them trumped up on heresy charges...............

This is why separation of church and state is such a great idea.

31 posted on 10/05/2007 2:18:39 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: joebuck

The fraud worked so well for the king o f France, other monarchs across Europe decided they didn’t want to pay back their loans either.............


32 posted on 10/05/2007 2:18:59 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: kbennkc
The Phillip the Fair on the Discovery looked just like John Edwards .

I see two Europes.........

33 posted on 10/05/2007 2:20:28 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: mnehrling

Ditto.


34 posted on 10/05/2007 2:22:04 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: NYer

Next week marks the 700th anniversary of the Infamous Friday the 13th purge. I wonder what occultic Masonic rituals will be in store for us all?????


35 posted on 10/05/2007 2:22:34 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: Cvengr
occultic Masonic

Oxymoron.

36 posted on 10/05/2007 2:23:47 PM PDT by mnehring ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: ConservativeMind
If you read the article, it says the proof of their exoneration was misfiled and only just found.

That’s their story, anyway.

37 posted on 10/05/2007 2:24:20 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
How do you figure? He won’t be avenged until a pope suffers the same fate he did. That means boiling of genetalia in oil and pulling them off of his conscience living person. Then execution. In otherwords, he won't ever be avenged.
38 posted on 10/05/2007 2:29:05 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: vetsvette

It was the King of France that wanted the Templars gone.


39 posted on 10/05/2007 2:31:45 PM PDT by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: mamelukesabre
But it was known the whole life of that Pope.

The Pope here, appears to have a sin of omission.

40 posted on 10/05/2007 2:33:17 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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