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The "Not So Poor" 12 Year Old Who Rebutted Bush on SCHIP Veto
Multiple, Baltimore Sun ^ | 10-07-07 | self

Posted on 10/06/2007 10:42:57 PM PDT by icwhatudo

Graeme Frost, who gave the democrat rebuttal to George Bush’s reasons for vetoing the SCHIP Bill, is a middle school student at the exclusive$20,000 per year Park School in Baltimore, MD.

Graeme was in a severe car accident three years ago, and received care paid for by the government program known as SCHIP-(State Children's Health Insurance Program)

"I was in a coma for a week and couldn't eat or stand up or even talk. My sister was even worse," Graeme wrote. "My parents work really hard and always make sure my sister and I have everything we need, but we can't afford private health insurance."

His sister Gemma, also severely injured in the accident, attended the same school prior to the accident meaning the family was able to come up with nearly $40,000 per year for tuition for these 2 grade schoolers. Confirmation both attended Park found here using edit-"find on this page"-Gemma. It will take you to an article in the schools newspaper about a fundraiser for Gemma class of 16, and Graeme class of 13.

Here are photos of the school's 44,000 square foot Wyman Arts Center: two galleries, an outdoor ampitheater, Meyerhoff Theater, Macks-Fidler Black Box Theater, practice rooms, rehearsal space, and ceramics, 3-D sculpture, woodworking, jewelry, painting, photography, digital graphics studios, recording studio, and keyboard lab.

In a Baltimore Sun article the family claims to be raising their four children on combined income of about $45,000 a year. "Bonnie Frost works for a medical publishing firm; her husband, Halsey, is a woodworker. They are raising their four children on combined income of about $45,000 a year. Neither gets health insurance through work."

What the article does not mention is that Halsey Frost has owned his own company "Frostworks",since this marriage announcement in the NY Times in 1992 so he chooses to not give himself insurance. He also employed his wife as "bookkeeper and operations management" prior to her recent 2007 hire at the "medical publishing firm". As her employer, he apparently denied her health insurance as well.

His company, Frostworks, is located at 3701 E BALTIMORE ST. A building that was purchased for $160,000 in 1999. The buildings owner is listed as DIVERSIFIED INDUSTRIAL DESIGN CENTER, LLC whose mailing address is listed as 104 S Collington Ave which is the Frost's home. The commercial property he owns is also listed as the business address for another company called Reillys Designs which leads to the question of whether rental income is included in the above mentioned salary total

The current market value of their improved 3,040 SF home at 104 S Collington Ave is unknown but 113 S COLLINGTON AVE, also an end unit, sold for $485,000 this past March and it was only 2,060 SF. A photo taken in the family's kitchen shows what appears to be a recent remodeling job with granite counter tops and glass front cabinets

One has to wonder that if time and money can be found to remodel a home, send kids to exclusive private schools, purchase commercial property and run your own business... maybe money can be found for other things...maybe Dad should drop his woodworking hobby and get a real job that offers health insurance rather than making people like me (also with 4 kids in a 600sf smaller house and tuition $16,000 less per kid and no commercial property ownership) pay for it in my taxes.


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To: shhrubbery!; Sybeck1
A quit claim deed. It seems it's most often used to transfer property between family members

How much you want to bet that the father of the kids was working mostly off the books for the wealthy grandfather, fixing up the grandfather's properties for resale? Meanwhile the grandfather could pay for the grandkids education at the expensive private school

321 posted on 10/08/2007 4:38:35 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I share your suspicion to some extent (although I think it more likely that the wealthy elders were just subsidizing the youngers so they didn’t need to be in the real world worrying about money). If we are correct, these folks are stinkers and pretty damned arrogant to think they could get away with being so high profile.


322 posted on 10/08/2007 4:45:08 PM PDT by OneCitizen
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To: caseinpoint; Sybeck1; Political Junkie Too; SauronOfMordor
Ok, thanks for your answers, and you're all right, it looks like the quit-claim deed was an in-family transfer. The "grantor" was Halsey Frost and the "grantees" were Halsey Frost and Bonnie Frost.

Also a re-fi was recorded on the same day in 2005 and I believe they took some equity out at the same time, around a year and a half post-accident iirc.

Now whether they used any of those $$$ to help pay medical expenses --or got to spend it all on other things, while we taxpayers footed their medical bills-- is a BIG question for taxpayers, imo.

It's OUR money, so it's OUR business.

(Btw, there are many, many documents on public record for that property --you have to register to use the site, however; and, it's timed and keeps bouncing you out if you have to leave the computer for a few minutes.)

323 posted on 10/08/2007 5:30:12 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: icwhatudo

for the chilrun bump.
kudos to icwhatudo


324 posted on 10/08/2007 5:42:13 PM PDT by Dinah Lord (fighting the Islamofascist Jihad - one keystroke at a time...)
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To: kcvl
We are a solidly middle-class family of three. I am self-employed and cannot afford medical insurance. Mrs Chan works for our family business, which has no employee health insurance (too expensive). She and Baby Chan (whose birth I will likely be in debt for until I die) are covered under an old COBRA plan from my last day job, but when that's over we're all out in the cold, insurance-wise. (And Baby Chan's ob-gyn and maternity costs wouldn't have been covered by any private insurer anyway.) We make considerably more than $45,000 a year between us; even so, we have yet to find a health insurance plan that we can afford that will accept a family with a baby.

We do not live extravagantly. We own a solid, red-brick 1952 rambler of 1300 ft2 that we are renovating little by little, which is located in a old center-city neighborhood. I have a BMW (a 1984 318i, 200,000 miles±) and she drives our Toyota (a 1995 4Runner, 195,000± miles), both paid for, with full-coverage insurance (a necessity in a state where the roads are full of unlicensed, unisured illegal alien drivers.) We have no dogs, no Tivo, no boat, and no plasma TV. We live frugally.

And we still can't afford health insurance.

Something's wrong. I'm not saying that Hillary is right, and I'm not claiming that the Frost family deserves government-sponsored health care — but when a hardworking, frugal middle-class family such as we cannot find affordable health insurance, something is wrong.

325 posted on 10/08/2007 5:47:23 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: shhrubbery!

Since it’s our money, perhaps someone who lives in their state can sue them for fraud.

They thought they had trouble before with just a simple car accident. Wait until they are being sued and having all their personal financial details searched out and published. His business can probably be driven into bankruptcy from the bad press.

They would make a good object lesson to any other moonbat who wants to let themselves get used by Dims.


326 posted on 10/08/2007 5:49:07 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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Oops, minor correction to my #323: The SUV accident was in December 2004, and the re-fi equity deal in September 2005.

So it was an interval of about nine months, not a year and a half.

327 posted on 10/08/2007 5:51:21 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: B-Chan

You haven’t given us enough information. What is your profession? Could you or your wife not get some kind of job with health insurance coverage through the employer? You really cannot expect other taxpayers to subsidize your desire to be your own boss. We all know people who plod on in jobs they don’t like, jobs that don’t have much in the way of opportunity. Maybe you have to take one of those that provides health insurance. Can’t you get a job at a Post Office? They have health insurance coverage and there are many Americans living on a Post Office salary.


328 posted on 10/08/2007 6:14:52 PM PDT by OneCitizen
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To: B-Chan

Something is definitely wrong, the question is, how do we find out what.


329 posted on 10/08/2007 6:16:06 PM PDT by darkangel82 (All right! Let's go Tribe!!)
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To: darkangel82

My poor immigrant grandmother had a saying that applies exactly to this story: the more you stir it, the worse it smells.


330 posted on 10/08/2007 6:36:30 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("The stool pigeon is the coming race." - Jack Black, <i>You Can't Win</i>)
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To: darkangel82

My poor immigrant grandmother had a saying that applies exactly to this story: the more you stir it, the worse it smells.


331 posted on 10/08/2007 6:36:47 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("The stool pigeon is the coming race." - Jack Black, <i>You Can't Win</i>)
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To: mnehrling

Thanks to $90,000,000 in punitive taxation, little Billy was able to triumph over Anorexia.


332 posted on 10/08/2007 6:39:01 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("The stool pigeon is the coming race." - Jack Black, <i>You Can't Win</i>)
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To: icwhatudo

What can I say...superb investigation!

Here is the poster family for liberal left: granite countertops for me, and everyone else pay for my health insurance!


333 posted on 10/08/2007 6:40:55 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

After raising 5 kids,and some years were struggles,and now with 6 grandchildren,I’ll be damned if I’ll let my cigarettes be taxed more to pay for some other kids to have medical coverage.

We always paid our own way and I’ll become a law breakin’ tax evader if they try to make the smokers pay for SCHIP for the middle class.

(The Damn Yankees are rallying so I’m stressed right now)

Sorry !


334 posted on 10/08/2007 7:20:09 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

Are they. I have it on Tivo. I had given up. Let me check it out and get back to you.


335 posted on 10/08/2007 7:22:22 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: beaversmom
Needs to be sent to the conservative radio hosts too.

It can't get published any higher!

Rush Limbaugh mentioned it at length on his radio program this afternoon!!

Even we the FReepers were credited for the revelation. Just remember how fast "buckhead" exposed dan blather's faked documents of GWB before the 60-minutes program was over. Kudos to everybody!!!

336 posted on 10/08/2007 7:41:22 PM PDT by danamco (Now, I would LOVE to hear your solution as to how to remove 12 to 30 million people from this countr)
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To: worst-case scenario
Wait until they are being sued and having all their personal financial details searched out and published.

I doubt very much they'll be sued. Probably Maryland's standards for doling out welfare money are so low, they didn't do anything "wrong" --under Maryland law.

While I don't wish them ill (for the sake of the chilrun), I DO wish they would feel at least a LITTLE shame for sponging off the taxpayer.

But I'm afraid the days are gone where most people felt shame at sucking at the public teat (and would eat nothing but beans and rice for a year, if that's what it took to avoid it).

337 posted on 10/08/2007 7:44:52 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: libertarian27
1 bathroom for 6 people, is this located n Africa???
338 posted on 10/08/2007 7:52:56 PM PDT by danamco (Now, I would LOVE to hear your solution as to how to remove 12 to 30 million people from this countr)
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To: eleni121
Here is the poster family for liberal left: granite countertops for me, and everyone else pay for my health insurance!

Me too! Me some Free Stuff too! LOL!

339 posted on 10/08/2007 7:55:36 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("The stool pigeon is the coming race." - Jack Black, <i>You Can't Win</i>)
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To: shhrubbery!
But I'm afraid the days are gone where most people felt shame at sucking at the public teat (and would eat nothing but beans and rice for a year, if that's what it took to avoid it).

My Dad got paid at the end of the month during the early '60s, and there were times when my mother fed her five boys hot dog and baked bean dinners for the last three days of the month.

Nowadays, the welfare-Democrats are driving Escalades.

340 posted on 10/08/2007 8:00:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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