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Dems' Poster Child Faces a Firestorm (FREEPER INVOLVED)
ABC NEWS ^ | 8 OCT 2007 | Rick Klein

Posted on 10/09/2007 5:21:39 AM PDT by radar101

ABC News' Rick Klein Reports: With debate raging in Washington over children's health insurance, congressional Democrats found a new way to make their case for an expansion last weekend: Rather than have a senator or a congressman respond to President Bush's weekly radio address, they decided to have a child who was helped by the program speak directly to the public.

But the 12-year-old boy whom Democrats chose as their poster child is now at the center of a firestorm in Washington and beyond. Conservative bloggers who uncovered some details of the family's finances are blasting the family, calling the fact that they rely on federal insurance an example of how the State Children's Health Insurance Program has expanded beyond its original intent.

According to Senate Democratic aides, some bloggers have made repeated phone calls to the home of 12-year-old Graeme Frost, demanding information about his family's private life. On Monday, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid accused GOP leadership aides of "pushing falsehood" in an effort to distract from the political battle over S-CHIP.

"This is a perverse distraction from the issue at hand," said Jim Manley, a spokesman for Reid, D-Nev. "Instead of debating the merits of providing health care to children, some in GOP leadership and their right-wing friends would rather attack a 12-year-old boy and his sister who were in a horrific car accident."

Manley cited an e-mail sent to reporters by a Senate Republican leadership aide, summing up recent blog traffic about the boy's family. A spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., declined to comment on Manley's charge that GOP aides were complicit in spreading disparaging information about Frosts.

In making the case for a proposed expansion of the S-CHIP program, Democrats found a boy who seemed like an ideal poster child in Graeme Frost, a Baltimore native whose family does not have private health insurance.

When Graeme and his sister were seriously injured in a 2004 car crash, their parents relied on S-CHIP coverage to help them recover. After House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office became aware of the Frosts through a healthcare interest group, FamiliesUSA, Democratic leaders turned to Graeme to deliver the party's weekly radio address Sept. 29.

"If it weren't for CHIP, I might not be here today," Frost said in the address, which was written by Senate Democratic aides. "We got the help we needed because we had health insurance for us through the CHIP program. But there are millions of kids out there who don't have CHIP, and they wouldn't get the care that my sister and I did if they got hurt."

But after a largely positive story about Frost appeared in the Baltimore Sun, conservative-leaning bloggers began focusing on details of Frost's family situation. They suggested the family makes the conservative argument -- that the children's health insurance program has strayed from its original purpose by subsidizing healthcare for middle-class families, not just poor children.

A blogger on FreeRepublic.com discovered that Frost and his sister, Gemma, attend a private school where tuition costs $20,000 a year. Their father, Halsey, is a self-employed woodworker, meaning that if his family doesn’t have health insurance, it’s because Halsey Frost -- as his own boss -- chooses not to purchase it for himself.

"One has to wonder that if time and money can be found to remodel a home, send kids to exclusive private schools, purchase commercial property and run your own business . . . maybe money can be found for other things," a blogger with the handle "icwhatudo" wrote on FreeRepublic.

That posting was widely circulated in the blogosphere, making great fodder for conservatives who argue that President Bush was right to veto the Democrats’ bill expanding S-CHIP.

"People make choices and it's clear the Frosts have made choice to invest in property and a business, but not in private health insurance," Mark Tapscott, editorial page editor of The Washington Examiner, wrote on his blog.

But Manley say conservative bloggers didn't dig deep enough. It turns out that the Frost children attend Baltimore’s Park School on near-full scholarships; they pay roughly $500 per child per year in tuition, he said.

Like many small-business owners, Halsey Frost can't even afford to provide health insurance to himself, Manley said.

"Last year, the Frost's made $45,000 combined," Manley said. "Over the past few years they have made no more than $50,000 combined depending on Halsey's ability to find work."

The Frost family did not immediately return calls seeking comment.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Free Republic; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demlies; democratparty; fakebutaccurate; fraudsexposed; frinthenews; graemefrost; healthinsurance; icwhatudo; schip; stalinisttactics; truthshallout; waronerror
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To: radar101
RUSH: I had some rudimentary information on this two weeks ago, and it wasn't enough for me to trust going with. But since then, it has been verified, and most of it's been verified by a "Freeper" at Free Republic. Everybody is writing about this now, since the Freeper posted it over the weekend...

Why Democrats Must Lie to Win
21 posted on 10/09/2007 5:40:23 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: DocRock
Anyone interested in learning about the DNC's fake poster children (and adults) should see DocRock's post with links on FR.
22 posted on 10/09/2007 5:40:57 AM PDT by syriacus (''You sit down. You've had your say, and now I'm going to have my say.'' H Dean to an Iowan, 1/2004)
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To: radar101

Seems like Mr Klien is trying to make the Dem case. He still doesn’t explain the big house or the remodel and commercial property. Sure would like to see those corporate tax reports, not to mention he could write off his health insurance payments as a self insured.

Sorry PravdABDNCBS, you didn’t dig deep enough. Great job icu!

PRay for W and Our Troops


23 posted on 10/09/2007 5:41:04 AM PDT by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: radar101
According to Senate Democratic aides, some bloggers have made repeated phone calls to the home of 12-year-old Graeme Frost, demanding information about his family's private life.

Evidence?

24 posted on 10/09/2007 5:41:08 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: radar101
According to Senate Democratic aides, some bloggers have made repeated phone calls to the home of 12-year-old Graeme Frost, demanding information about his family's private life.

I don't know about any "phone calls" demanding "private" information, but I've got news for these Dim staff whiners :
Real estate records, including mortgages, are PUBLIC information.

And the Frosts own real estate with plenty of equity -- both a private house (at least one), and a commercial property.

25 posted on 10/09/2007 5:41:15 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: Miss Didi

My lord, we’ve Swiftkidded a 12 year old.


26 posted on 10/09/2007 5:41:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: radar101
You know, if Maryland had a school voucher program those people would be able to afford health care for their children.

Anyway, it seems the Dems want a lot of the poor to pay for the health care of these well-off people.

27 posted on 10/09/2007 5:42:01 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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To: popdonnelly
Oh I have no problems with it myself. I just like to point out how the media likes to use labels.

My personal favorite is “right-wing conspiracy.”

28 posted on 10/09/2007 5:42:18 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Stay the course. Let's win this damn thing.)
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To: radar101

Even if we were to accept the Democrat-provided figures, should a family making $50K be on public assistance? That is pretty good money. A family making that much should be able to care for themselves, including health insurance.


29 posted on 10/09/2007 5:42:18 AM PDT by gridlock (C'mon people now / Smile on your Brother / Everybody get together / Try to love one anoth-kaBOOM!)
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To: radar101
Mr. Frost, also 26, is known as Halsey. He owns Frostworks, a woodworking and furniture-design studio in Baltimore. His mother, Randy Frost, is a quilt artist. His father is the deputy director of design and construction for the City University of New York in Manhattan. The bridegroom’s late grandfather Frederick G. Frost Jr. was an architect responsible for several public buildings in New York, including Martin Luther King High School in Manhattan..

The tidbit in bold is what really makes me wonder....

Manhattan, NY eh? Why do I smell a hillrat?
30 posted on 10/09/2007 5:43:03 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it- Aristotle)
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To: radar101
"But Manley [a spokesman for Reid, D-Nev] say conservative bloggers didn't dig deep enough. It turns out that the Frost children attend Baltimore’s Park School on near-full scholarships; they pay roughly $500 per child per year in tuition, he said."

Can any FReeper detectives verify Harry Reid's lackey's statement?

31 posted on 10/09/2007 5:43:04 AM PDT by avacado (Republicans Destroyed Democrats' Most Cherished Institution: SLAVERY!)
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To: radar101
“But Manley say conservative bloggers didn’t dig deep enough. It turns out that the Frost children attend Baltimore’s Park School on near-full scholarships; they pay roughly $500 per child per year in tuition, he said.”

That still doesn’t explain why he’s holding on to 500K of investment property.

Before you reach into my pocket to buy something for your kids, you damned well better sell off your non-essentials.

32 posted on 10/09/2007 5:43:06 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: radar101
If the man cannot support his family by being self employed, then he needs to find a way to do so.

Choosing to be self employed is no excuse for not being able to provide for your children.

We are self employed, and have been for years. We pay out the wazoo for insurance.

I have had this conversation before with a man I know, who is also self employed and complaining that he cannot afford to insure his family.

My response? Then get a job that does allow you to care for them. This guy went to private school, has a college degree that was paid for by well off parents, and yet he chooses to fail his family.

You can argue all day long that insurance is too expensive, and we need to find a way to get insurance companies to lower costs, but NEVER will I go for government health care.

Take care of your own, and leave me alone.

33 posted on 10/09/2007 5:43:30 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: dawn53

He could write off his Health Insurance too. He chose not to and scammed the system.

Pray for W and Our Troops


34 posted on 10/09/2007 5:44:11 AM PDT by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: radar101; Izzy Dunne; icwhatudo

Thanks for posting; thanks for the link; thanks.


35 posted on 10/09/2007 5:45:32 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: ladyjane
Evidence?

The charge was made by at least two anonymous Senate Democrat aides. You need more proof than that?

Don't you trust them?!?

36 posted on 10/09/2007 5:45:47 AM PDT by gridlock (C'mon people now / Smile on your Brother / Everybody get together / Try to love one anoth-kaBOOM!)
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To: radar101

The obvious flaw in the claims (Well, ONE of the obvious flaws...):

At UNDER $50,000/year, HOW did they pay for the $20,000/year for two kids in private school????


37 posted on 10/09/2007 5:46:13 AM PDT by bannie
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To: radar101
We got the help we needed because we had health insurance for us through the CHIP program.

Correction....you got the help you needed because someone out there in the tax paying world was working their butt off to pay the health insurance for their OWN kids as well as yours!

38 posted on 10/09/2007 5:46:55 AM PDT by Taggart_D
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To: bannie

Wonder if the IRS will be wondering that too?


39 posted on 10/09/2007 5:47:37 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: dawn53

ck this out re: private school

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10082007/news/columnists/public_pays_for_upper_class_pr.htm


40 posted on 10/09/2007 5:47:49 AM PDT by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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