Thank you SierraScrapper!
Ping!
Wow! Is Congressman Paul already looking at drapes for the oval office? This is such big news! Wonder why the: Gallup, Rasmussen, Newsweek, Ispos, Fox, ABC, NBC/Wall Street Journal, Zogby, ARG, Insider Advantage, Battleground, Quinnipiac, Mason-Dixon, Des Moines Register, LA Times/Bloomberg, SurveyUSA, Strategic Vision, PPIC, et al keep missing this story? Oh, yeah, all Ron Paul supporters only use cell phones! That’s it!!
Nice job trying to explain away Ron Paul's win at this conference. But, given that Romney and Hunter both attended this conference, and Ron Paul did not but got more votes than the two of them combined, I can draw only two conclusions:
(1) Support for Ron Paul is a lot deeper than most are willing to admit; or
(2) Romney and Hunter's campaigns made a serious error by agreeing to speak at an event that was pre-rigged for Ron Paul. Well, on second thought - this is a huge boost for Hunter. But Romney's stock definitely drops on this news. He avoided Farah and Schlafly at the value voters debate, he avoided Tavis Smiley at the black-oriented debate, but he just stepped on a land mine this time.
I have to say, any conference of Republicans where Ron Paul could win a straw poll with over 30%, is NOT a very representative conference, nor could it be particularly conservative, despite its name.
Because the makeup of this group is clearly odd, I can’t give much significance to the rest of the order either.
If 2 votes made up close to 2 percent of the vote, then not many people participated in the poll.
Exhibitors:
American Civil Rights Institute
Freedom Works
Blog Aught
Avalon Podcasting
NetCompetition
DCI Group
Citizens United
New Media Alliance
Outright Libertarians
Leadership Institute
National Rifle Association
National Taxpayers Union
National Cable Communications
Sam Adams Alliance
Libertarian Party
National Voter Outreach
Maximize Liberty
RunPolitics.com
Blog Talk Radio
Ron Paul 2008
Confirmed Speakers were:
* Mitt Romney, Candidate for President of the United States
* Duncan Hunter, Candidate for President of the United States
* South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford
* Congressman John Shadegg :: Honorary Chair
* Rep. Dean Heller of Nevada
* Grover G. Norquist, President of Americans for Tax Reform
* Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Freedom Works
* Former Congressman Bob Barr of the Libertarian Party
* Former Congressman J.D. Hayworth of Citizens United
* Former Ambassador Jerry Carmen
* Glen Caroline of the National Rifle Association
* Mickey Barnett, Postal Board of Governors
* Frank Fahrenkopf of American Gaming Association
* Rich Galen of Mullings.com
* Adrian "Good Morning, Vietnam!" Cronauer
* David Keene of the ACU
* Mark Hyman
* Paul Jacob of Citizens in Charge
* Author/conservative fundraising guru Richard Viguerie
* Jo Ann Davidson, Co-Chair of the Republican National Committee (withdrew)
* Bill Redpath, National Chairman, Libertarian Party
* Shannon Reeves of the RNCs African-American Leadership Council
* Kerri Houston, U.S.-China Economic & Security Review Commission
* Libertarian presidential candidate Wayne Allyn Root
* Rick Berman of the Center for Union Facts
* Israel Teitelbaum of Parents for Free Choice in Education
* Author and syndicated columnist Doug Bandow
* Author Leslie Sanchez
* Mark Montini
* John Berthoud, President of the National Taxpayers Union
* Steve Moore of Wall Street Journal
* John Fund of Wall Street Journal
* Steven Greenhut of Orange County Register
* Erick Erickson of RedState.org
* Documentary filmmaker Evan Coyne Maloney
* Blogging Tips author Lorelle van Fossen
* Rick Arnold of National Voter Outreach
* Charles Bell of Bell, McAndrews & Hiltachk, LLP
* Susan Johnson of National Voter Outreach
* Blue Collar Muse blogger Ken Marrero
* Adams Web blogger Adam Graham
* Jason Wright of PoliticalDerby.com
* Chris Simcox of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps
* Richard Nadler of Americas Majority
* Jennifer Gratz of the American Civil Rights Institute
* Amanda Hydro of the Reason Foundation
* Scott Cleland of NetCompetition.org
* Talk show host Andrea Shea King
* Talk-show host Brian Wilson
* Talk-show host Sharon Hughes
* Chris Barron of Maximize Liberty
* Warner Todd Huston
This is from a post by rscully on FR where she says RP did appear and speak. Who is right?
Follow that link and look at Paul's placing in the Member Opinion vs Non-Member Opinion sections.
Is Ron Paul the Ross Perot of ‘08?
This is just one of many examples of how the "quagmire" is going.
Its sickens me to see you little anti-war lefties sitting around in your Star Trek pajamas in your parents' basements belittling the efforts of people of whom you aren't even good enough to lick the bottoms of their boots.
Call me when the Ronster gets out of single digits in any reputable poll of people capable of casting a legal vote.
“Duncan Hunter missed 2nd place by only TWO votes! That right there is HUGE NEWS!!!!”
And he doesn’t have the big bucks, but still does very well in getting his message out.
This group MUST be libertarian, because Ron Paul didn’t even come in first, or second, in his own state of Texas, and Paul lost by MORE THAN 2 to 1:
“Duncan Hunter doubled the totals of the next-closest candidate, garnering 534 of approximately 1,400 votes cast. Fred Thompson came in second with 266 votes, and Paul rounded out the top three with 217 votes.
Here are all the results:
Duncan Hunter: 534
Fred Thompson: 266
Ron Paul: 217
Mike Huckabee: 83
Rudy Giuliani: 78
Mitt Romney: 61
Ray McKinney: 28
John Cox: 10
John McCain: 8
Sam Brownback: 6
Tom Tancredo: 6
Hugh Cort: 3”
Uh, I was there working the conference as a full access staff member. I can tell you for a fact that the straw poll was badly handled, IMHO. First of all, only the conference member attendees were told about the straw poll, which means the influx of people who came to see Gov. Romney were not even aware of the straw poll, since his first speaking engagement was sponsored privately (although open to the public), and had nothing whatsoever to do with the conference (the only connection was that it was in the same vicinity). Secondly, I expressed concern on a couple of occasions that the ballots were left unattended and in the open to conference attendees, and we actually caught a couple of Ron Paul supporters taking more than thier fair share.
So, let’s see: the majority of Romney supporters did not go to the conference itself but only to the events which featured him speaking and there were sneaky Ron Paul supporters...hmmmm, I’m not putting much stock in that straw poll. An honest representation would have been a race between Hunter and Romney, who are both my dream ticket candidates anyway!!!
The wacky Ron Paul supporters were pretty creepy. And nuttier than squirrel droppings.
Big deal. He is still polling around 2% in real polls.
FALSE!
Romney came in 2nd!
Good God, I can’t wait for Ron Paul to go away. The
liberals will be sad and it will feel like Christmas.