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After First Debate, Thompson's Absence Noticed on Campaign Trail
FOX News/AP ^ | Oct 14, 2007 | al-AP

Posted on 10/14/2007 4:26:16 PM PDT by nordicstan

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To: JRochelle
Go FRed, go!! Fred08 - Contribute Now
121 posted on 10/14/2007 10:28:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Security * Unity * Prosperity | Fred08.com)
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To: Rick_Michael

Can’t join intrade because it runs afoul of the Stupid Republican anti-Internet gaming that helped lose the 2006 election.


122 posted on 10/15/2007 3:11:34 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote

Well, you are right, that the entire field sucks. The only reason I’m hanging in with the GOP at all is that Hillary sucks worse. Judging from Fred’s performance so far, though, I don’t think he can beat her.


123 posted on 10/15/2007 3:34:08 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: nordicstan
I'm certain no other candidates ever change their schedule or cancel an event. In fact, I'm certain it's never ever occured except in Fred's case. (/sarcasm)

Nice try, Mitt-mutt. In addition to appearing on Neil Cavuto today (Monday) here are some more schedule dates for Fred. NOTE: This is probably an incomplete list as indicated by the source, being put together from news reports.

Monday, October 15
Speech at the New York Conservative Party Fall Reception
Sheraton Hotel and Towers
New York City

October 18
Atlanta, Georgia
12:00 p.m. Photo Opportunity
12:30 p.m. Lunch Reception

Friday, October 19
Values Voter Summit
Hilton Washington Hotel
Washington D.C.

October 21
Presidency IV Conference
Florida GOP
Presidential Debate: 8:00-9:30 PM ET (Fox News Channel)

Saturday, October 27
Des Moines, Iowa
Ronald Reagan Dinner
Hy-Vee Hall

Tuesday, October 30
Newport Beach, California
The Pacific Club
Breakfast Reception
8:00 AM PT

124 posted on 10/15/2007 5:56:56 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Fred '08 Because our troops DESERVE BETTER than Mrs. Bill Clinton.)
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To: Beelzebubba
Why would you say that? I have never written one bad thing against Thompson. I would be happy if Thompson were to win the primary, but at this point it is more important to me that we save Conservatism and get a Conservative candidate that can win against which ever Democrat-Socisalist is thrown up there, so if Thompson isn't well then I want to know and face that issue. I say this of any of the more conservative candidates at this point.
125 posted on 10/15/2007 7:04:40 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: longtermmemmory; Plutarch
"How reliable is this trading stuff? I keep seeing it here on FR."

About as reliable as a win at Cow-patty BINGO -- with liberal cows piling on the -- "markers".

126 posted on 10/15/2007 4:05:03 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: TXnMA
About as reliable as a win at Cow-patty BINGO.

Nobody was calling Intrade Cow-patty BINGO back when FDT was at 35%, check out the scores of celebratory posts:

Fred Takes Lead on InTrade!

Now that FDT is at 16%, why that Intrade is unreliable, you can no more trust it than a McCain tough on border pledge.

Thus the Fredheads multiply their explanations. The one robust explanation that FDT is a weak candidate won't do, so all evidence that suggests FDT is weak is dismissed in detail through multiple explanations. The pundits are biased, the polls unreliable, the reporters have agendas, Intrade is foreign, the fund raising is undercounted, the speech wasn't that bad, the interview wasn't disappointing, etc. etc.

Occam's razor states that the truth is the single not the multiple explanations. Thus:

But Fredheads, proud Fredheads,
Seeing Fred lose a little authority,
Make such multiple explanations before Free Republic,
As would make Occam weep.

127 posted on 10/15/2007 5:42:42 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
I want a strong conservative President, so I am anti- Giuliani, negative on Romney and McCain, and neutral on Thompson (but getting tired of "wait-and-see"ing)...

OTOH, there is no way that I can stomach a Hitlary (or any democRAT) in the Oval Office (again).

Yours was the first Intrade reference I've seen re this election.

My point was that I see no more reason to trust Intrade numbers than I have reason to trust those from any online poll that can be FReeped (or, more specifically, "DUped").

128 posted on 10/15/2007 7:09:49 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Jim Noble

I think he is going to run stronger than expected. It isn’t because I wish that to be the case but it just shows this primary race is far from over and the top candidates are very much in a position to be dethroned.

Thompson on the other hand has been very smart in his approach so far. He has succeeded in keeping the media’s attention on him. Just look at today. He purposely played the media and setup a strategic hit on Rudy who is the most venerable of the leading candidates. I personally do not see how Rudy can win the Presidency. I like him but he is the one candidate who if elected has the potential to destroy the Republican party as Schwarzenegger has done in CA.

I had lots of hope for Governor Schwarzenegger but he has shown himself to be a huge mistake. We do not need another huge mistake who is willing to give ground to the most liberal in order to maintain his popularity. I fear Rudy is that type of candidate.

McCain regardless of how much many of us do not like him is not dangerous in that he is not socially conservative because he generally is but he seems to not get the conservative philosophy. A McCain presidency ironically would not be much different that the current one except McCain would have a bit more force on military issues.
McCain is dangerous because like with campaign finance he is willing to compromise with the left for the sake of argument. He is very willing to split the difference and give an enemy who is drowning a lifeboat.

McCain could lift himself considerably if he were just to mend fences with conservative evangelicals. He doesn’t need to kiss their butts or anything but he needs to make clear an unambiguous his positions on abortion and gay rights. A person who is pro-life should be able to give an impassioned speech on the issue and one does not have to be Christian to not want to promote the gay activist agenda. McCain is a smart man and he could only step into a true leadership role then he could President in the same way that a Teddy Roosevelt was. He also needs to make clear his line on taxes and fiscal issues. When he speaks using Democrat buzz words he sends potential primary voters running for the hills. That is one that that Rudy has right he is unquestionably a fiscal conservative. If he could promise no activism and even promise to oppose bits of the homosexual and pro-choice movements he could gain more acceptability.

Thompson who has not even begun to really campaign has a huge potential. His weakness is that he doesn’t kiss asses and since there are those in the evangelical movement such as Dobson, who even with all their disdain for homosexuals, have a prevailing desire to have their asses kissed. Thompson will have to beware that his enemies may come from those who feel slighted like a jaded lover for him not hanging on their every word or calling them in to advise him. I do not know why so many Christian “leaders” shrink down into such sniveling little snots with voices and actions so bereft of masculinity that they are left whining for attention like wives left unsatisfied when someone does not entertain their every whim.

That said, I think it is interesting the events that are converging looking to set two of the players in the Nixon impeachment hearings against each other. This I don’t believe is an accident. I believe both Hillary and Fred have a wind that goes back to that time blowing at their backs. I will be surprised it that don’t win. Destiny is not easily derailed.


129 posted on 10/15/2007 7:27:54 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Saying "No" does not mean that you have no heart but often means you clearly have a mind.)
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