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Poll: Should pharmacists have the right to not give the morning after pill if they morally object?
The State Journal Register ^ | October 15, 2007 | Dean Olsen

Posted on 10/15/2007 7:41:49 PM PDT by TheEaglehasLanded

The story is on top and the poll is on the bottom


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: challenge; conscienceclause; moralabsolutes; objections; pharmacist; pharmacy; planb
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To: BunnySlippers

Doctors prescribe. Pharmacists fill the prescription. No pharmacy should be FORCED to carry any drug. Period.


81 posted on 10/15/2007 11:15:18 PM PDT by Just Lori (There is nothing democratic about democrats.)
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To: blaquebyrd

That has already been addressed by others above. Nice try, doesn’t wash.


82 posted on 10/15/2007 11:21:15 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republic's warped and obscure humor needs since 1999)
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To: yeehah

Welcome to Free Republic.


83 posted on 10/15/2007 11:23:02 PM PDT by Just Lori (There is nothing democratic about democrats.)
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To: Witter
"Otherwise, there won’t be many pharmacist comfortable working in this area of expertise who are pro-life."

Do you really want your pharmacist to have a political opinion when it comes to dispensing your drugs? What's next a cardiologist that believes in the Kervorkian theory? I say just do the job you accepted employment to do and let free thinking Americans deal with the consequences of their actions.

84 posted on 10/15/2007 11:23:54 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Yes 50.7%
No 49.3%

Well, You can’t sell what you don’t have. Just don’t stock it/lose the inventory in the warehouse...


85 posted on 10/15/2007 11:24:52 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: blaquebyrd
These guys knew the job description called for filling legal prescriptions for FDA approved medicine when they accepted their positions.

Interesting take on a product which is the only one on the shelf designed to kill instead of heal.

86 posted on 10/15/2007 11:27:50 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: blaquebyrd

What kind of pharmacist do you want? A rubber stamper?
You should choose one who helps you with your prescribed
drugs.
Do you want them to tell you about side effects, even if
you might stop taking the drug cause you don’t want those
side effects?
Do you want them to tell you smoking can be harmful?
That overdosing on meds is potentially dangerous?

Suppose you have heard that some herb is good for your
digestion, but you are taking a blood thinner
for your heart condition, and the pharmacist knows that
there might be a drug interaction that might harm you with
those two chemicals. Should the pharmacist just say, “hey,
man, it’s a free country” here’s you’re prescription for
the blood thinner, dude, good luck.” Or should they warn
you, and if they feel strongly enough that the interaction
could be harmful to you, not sell you the drug. What kind
of pharmacist do you want?


87 posted on 10/15/2007 11:33:29 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: blaquebyrd
The reality in America in 2007 is there is a lawfully sanctioned prescribed medicine available to Americans who don't agree with your religious convictions. Like it or not our Constitution guarantees them that right.

I thought I was fairly conversant with the Constitution.

Would you please point out the part where that right is enumerated?

I seem to have missed it.

88 posted on 10/15/2007 11:39:57 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: blaquebyrd

I have a nephew and a niece who are pharmacist. They take their jobs very seriously and take it to heart. Everyday they explain the drugs to the people they are dispensing because it is part of their job. They care about them. In this line of work you have too. And they are there to protect the patients from any bad drug interactions or allergies that the doctor missed. This is a medical field they are involved in. They are licensed in Ohio which requires years of schooling and making rounds next to the doctors on the floors. They have to take their jobs very seriously. They can’t be that cold-hearted I think. Especially if have rapport with their patients.


89 posted on 10/15/2007 11:40:00 PM PDT by Witter
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To: 70times7
The point is it is legal, and if a pharmacy sells the drug, you should have the right to buy it. The argument about the moral implications of the use of the drug is a different argument. At no time did I say it was “OK” or “good” I’m just saying that so long as it is legal, you should have the right to access it at a store that sells it.

If the pharmacist does not want to sell the legal drug, then they ought to work in a store that does not sell it. It’s like a clerk refusing to sell condoms because they are Catholic, or some one refusing to sell bullets because they could be used to kill someone, or a Muslim refusing to sell a customer alcohol, it's simply ridiculous.

I understand you oppose the drug, and thats fine. A solid argument can be made for banning the sale of this drug. But, until it is illegal, the public has a right to buy it at store that sells it. If you do not want to sell it, the work somewhere that does not stock the item.

90 posted on 10/15/2007 11:40:46 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Fred & Hunter '08)
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To: Getready
"What kind of pharmacist do you want? A rubber stamper? You should choose one who helps you with your prescribed drugs. Do you want them to tell you about side effects, even if you might stop taking the drug cause you don’t want those side effects?"

In today's world pharmacists are becoming obsolete. I get my drugs on base and guess what? They hand you a computer print-out with your script. I got home, compared it with WebMD.com and they were identical. Suffice it to say I'm not downgrading the Piggly Wiggly pharmacist but I can do my own research.

91 posted on 10/15/2007 11:41:46 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: chaos_5
...if a pharmacy sells the drug....

Should the government be able to FORCE a pharmacy to sell the drug?

92 posted on 10/15/2007 11:45:20 PM PDT by Just Lori (There is nothing democratic about democrats.)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

The pharmacist most certainly has the right to refuse distributing the morning after pill and there is nothing that can force him/her to do so short of gun to the temple.

No judge, no politician, no officer of the law can force the hand of pharmacist to issue such drugs.


93 posted on 10/15/2007 11:46:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Just Lori
Should the government be able to FORCE a pharmacy to sell the drug?

IMO, absolutely not!

94 posted on 10/15/2007 11:47:13 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Fred & Hunter '08)
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To: blaquebyrd
Suffice it to say I'm not downgrading the Piggly Wiggly pharmacist but I can do my own research.

I get my meds on base, too. The RPh always asks me if I'm familiar with the meds before they hand me the print outs.

Pharmacists are far from becoming obsolete. Do you know how hard it is to get thru Pharmacy school? Do you have any idea how often doctors call a pharmacist for advice on any number of medications?

Your "Piggly Wiggly" comment was insulting, as well as ignorant.

95 posted on 10/15/2007 11:51:34 PM PDT by Just Lori (There is nothing democratic about democrats.)
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To: Just Lori
"Your "Piggly Wiggly" comment was insulting, as well as ignorant."

Well then Sir, you havena't served where I have. Come out west and ride your high horse. What you call insulting and ignorant I call realistic. Come on Vet let's tell the truth and tell like it is. I'm not making this up. I'm retired with an active duty wife. So I know from which I speak. Challenge me on specifics but don't label me ignorant!

96 posted on 10/16/2007 12:06:17 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: 70times7

“Ahh yes. If the government says it is ok, then certainly it must be ok!”

Where does it say these pharmacists work for the government? I thought they worked for individual chains... I’ve never worked somewhere employees were allowed to CHOOSE what part of their job they would perform.

Insubordination is usually punishable by termination. It’s true, these individuals signed up to become pharmacists to help people. And that creates a huge moral problem for them with the morning after pill. However, with the pill being legal, it doesn’t really leave these folks much option unless they find a chain to work for that feels the same way they do.


97 posted on 10/16/2007 12:07:32 AM PDT by COgamer
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To: blaquebyrd
Well then Sir, you havena't served where I have.

I'm not a "sir". Show me a man named Lori, and I'll show you one po'd guy!

Come out west and ride your high horse.

I already AM out west, but I don't have a horse, high or otherwise.

What you call insulting and ignorant I call realistic. Come on Vet let's tell the truth and tell like it is.

I am telling the truth about what it's like in pharmacy. I never said I was a vet. My husband is, though. In 26 years, he served pretty much everywhere.

I'm not making this up. I'm retired with an active duty wife.

Ok.

So I know from which I speak.

Maybe "from", but not "of".

Challenge me on specifics but don't label me ignorant!

I WAS specific, and I didn't call YOU ignorant. I said your Piggly Wiggly COMMENT was ignorant, as well as insulting. I'm just one of several people I noticed posting on this thread who have experience in the pharmaceutical field.

98 posted on 10/16/2007 12:42:01 AM PDT by Just Lori (There is nothing democratic about democrats.)
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To: SpaceBar

Your post sums it up well.


99 posted on 10/16/2007 2:28:07 AM PDT by Mila
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To: blaquebyrd

“they sought out employers who agree with their religious beliefs.”

The larger issue are the states that mandate the selling of these items...not the businesses. Its one thing if a business mandates the selling of an item, the pharmacist could indeed find another place to work. But if the state mandates that all pharmacies within that state sell abortifacients...what is the community/family rooted pharmacist to do, leave the state?


100 posted on 10/16/2007 3:55:04 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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