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Black People "less intelligent" Scientist Claims
TimesOnLine (UK) ^ | Oct. 17, '07 | staff

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:52:48 AM PDT by T.L.Sink

One of the most respected scientists is embroiled in an extraordinary row after claiming that black people are less intelligent than white people. James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in discovering the structure of DNA, has provoked outrage with his comments. The 79 year old geneticist said he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas the the testing says not really."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: dna; intelligence; iq; jameswatson; nobelprize; race; racerelations; races; racial; racism; racist; racists; scientists
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To: T.L.Sink

I think Alan Keyes, Walter Williams, Clarence Thomas, et al belie Watson’s claim.

I wish I had half the brains of Keyes.


21 posted on 10/19/2007 5:01:43 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: T.L.Sink
Nobel laureate and thief Jim Watson: "We only stole a woman's (sneer) data. So what. Women are not as intelligent as men."


22 posted on 10/19/2007 5:08:04 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

He should be ashamed of himself.

That peace prize seem to be for idiots and terrorist these days.


23 posted on 10/19/2007 5:08:27 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: Dudoight

Agreed. Alan Keyes is the smartest individual I’ve ever known. And I’ve known a lot of very intelligent people.

Of course, his raw, native ability has been massively built upon by his fierce devotion to the hard lifetime task of completely internalizing the moral and historic truths that underlie our free republic and our Judeo-Christian civilization.

In other words, he has not buried his talents in the ground. He’s invested them wisely and procured an impressive return on investment for the One Who gave them to him in the first place.


24 posted on 10/19/2007 5:14:08 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: T.L.Sink

He broke the biggest taboo of them all!


25 posted on 10/19/2007 5:17:06 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I would think that Alan Keyes, and Thomas Sowell , and
others I believe more intelligent than I would find this
amusing. But I ‘ve heard one radio talk jock insist the
“Spin” is making this seem other than what was said—a
credible observation as I’ve seen it whenever the gay rights groups read professional journals seeking to
justify their abominable lifestyle choices.


26 posted on 10/19/2007 5:20:15 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: livius
Their diet consisted of boiled macaroni, an occasional squirrel, and soda and potato chips

Yum!

27 posted on 10/19/2007 5:20:30 AM PDT by central_va
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To: T.L.Sink
Watson and Crick are not just your 'ordinary' brilliant scientists. Their discovery of double helix DNA is considered by many to be as revolutionary a scientific breakthrough as those of Newton in the 17th century. William Shockley, who won the Nobel Prize in physics for his discovery of the transister, had similar views.

Those were Nobel Prizes that were not politically motivated.

28 posted on 10/19/2007 5:23:04 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: Tired of Taxes
"If an influx of Asians were suddenly taking many jobs away from Caucasians, then there would be an uproar. Me - I don't buy that claim about Asian intellectual superiority over Caucasians, either."

Well, unfortunately for your pollyannish notions, all of the attempts to measure human intelligence show the same general trend. To use precise language, mongloids are brighter than caucasoids, who are brighter than negroids.

That's what the hardest data we have show--that you choose not to believe it is your problem.

29 posted on 10/19/2007 5:30:36 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Tired of Taxes
If an influx of Asians were suddenly taking many jobs away from Caucasians...

Uhh...isn't that exactly what's happening? I guess we can blame Watson for the H-1B program.

30 posted on 10/19/2007 5:31:31 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: T.L.Sink

There is an awful lot of white kids who can’t seem to put their belt on and always get their hat on sideways. They look dumber than crap to me.....I’m just saying


31 posted on 10/19/2007 5:32:59 AM PDT by badpacifist (They say your head can be a prison Then, these are just conjugal visits.)
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To: GAB-1955
"3) Group intelligence tests have a tendency to show linguistic and cultural biases, but they’re easier to give than one-on-one intelligence tests."

How does a test that compares a group of different shapes and asks one to make logical inferences from those patterns show "linguistic and cultural bias"????

Such tests show the same "racial" differences as those which use regular language.

32 posted on 10/19/2007 5:33:14 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: EEDUDE
"What’s odd is that I have seen numerous studies published stating that Asians were more intelligent than Caucasians, but never seen an uproar about that. Why is that?? Someone help me out here!"

Caucasians are evil and must be stopped. If we must ignore facts to do so, so be it.

33 posted on 10/19/2007 6:29:08 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: DoughtyOne

I seriously doubt that James Watson, at the age of 79, is quaking in his boots. I am 71 and pretty damned well say what’s on my mind and plan to continue doing so. My philosophy, at this juncture in my life is, “If you don’t like to hear what I think, go find yourself a liberal with a vacuum gauge embedded in his brow (the better to measure the depth of his thoughts, you understand).


34 posted on 10/19/2007 6:29:27 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: Wonder Warthog; GAB-1955

“How does a test that compares a group of different shapes and asks one to make logical inferences from those patterns show “linguistic and cultural bias”????

1. Familiarity with the geometric concepts involved.

2.motivation to try

3.nutritional status of the population taking the test

4. genera early childhood stimulation


35 posted on 10/19/2007 7:41:31 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: GAB-1955
His conclusions, therefore, are those of an ill-informed private person who is using his celebrity to speak on public affairs . It’s appeal to authority, and logically suspect.

An excellent summary. Thank you for posting it.

36 posted on 10/19/2007 8:10:09 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: BlazingArizona
Uhh...isn't that exactly what's happening? I guess we can blame Watson for the H-1B program.

I thought of H1Bs as I was posting. Yes, but they're just replacing IT people, and IT people do scream about it. Notice the points the IT people make: H1B has nothing to do with a group of people being more intelligent. It has to do with a group of people willing to work for lower pay.

37 posted on 10/19/2007 8:17:55 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: badgerlandjim
Do you also disavow the claim that blacks are athletically superior to Caucasians or do you believe your lying eyes?

Define the term "athletically superior".

And don't point to the professional athletes you see on TV. They are a small portion of a large population.

38 posted on 10/19/2007 8:31:22 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
all of the attempts to measure human intelligence show the same general trend.

The key word there is attempts.

39 posted on 10/19/2007 8:41:34 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: GAB-1955

All he has to do for clarification is use Zimbabwe as an example. That will shut everybody up.


40 posted on 10/19/2007 8:42:36 AM PDT by BobS (I><P>)
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