Posted on 10/19/2007 1:25:01 PM PDT by BillCompton
He was here illegally. He broke the law - he was old enough to know that he was here illegally. So what if he was a good kid, we have detention centers (such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Don_Hutto_Residential_Center ) that probably have plenty of good children of parents who made these decisions, but the fact is, he should not be here. If we let him stick around, we open up a door that can never be closed.
If you want to do Salvador a favor, send him back to Mexico and sponsor him for legal immigration. Hundreds of thousands come to this country from Mexico every year. He is skilled. He should have no problem getting legal residence. Then he will have nothing to fear.
That is a sad story and I really hope that everything works out well for him. The problem is that our political leaders have not done anything, untill very recently to protect the borders and so we do not trust them. I think many of us would not have reacted so angrily to Bush’s idea of partial amnesty if we could actually trust him to carry out the border security part of the equation. In trying to ensure that our country is not over-run we probably have moved too far the other way. However, it is probably impossible to draw a legal line that will not lead to some injustice. Hopefully, you will be able to keep contact with this young man in Mexico and he will be able to eventually apply for a green card and come back to the U.S. Legally.
Your are correct,this post is about hip deep! Send him home. No more leaches!
Happens all the time and is referred to as "identity theft". They are stolen from American citizens.
Perhaps you are frustrated with the do-nothing Senators, who only really wanted to inflame people by proposing the most preposterous, most outlandish Utopian ‘cure-all’ to this problem, instead of addressing the legitimacy of LAWS already passed and of finding very difficult but practical solutions to some of these problems and still serving US citizens, who have voted them into office so they can handle this sort of thing.
You might ask your Congressman — Why the difficulty for legitimate folks to get green cards? Or did this young man ever attempt to follow that particular law? You might ask him — Why is there no border protection at ALL, when laws have been passed and funded to take care of this very thing. You might ask him what the heck he IS doing up in DC, if his mandate is to serve the PEOPLE whom he represents — who also have sad stories, by the way.
There are sad stories of US citizens living at the border whose properties are trashed and overtaken by drug lords, but Congress will do nothing. There are sad stories of US citizens who have gone to emergency rooms but have not gotten served because of the numerous illegals who have overtaken that system. There are sad stories about US citizens in our schools who are barely taught anything because of the overflow of illegals, being taught in Spanish, who are NOT paying in any way, shape or form for their education.
There are plenty of sad stories to go around. The blame in this does not really lie in those of us who fought against the Utopian, illegal, thoughtless, preposterous bill that was proposed. It lies in those leaders who were elected to serve and protect their citizens, who chose the easy and soft road of appeasement and ‘feel-good do-nothing’ proposals instead of DOING ANYTHING.
“And if they don’t do their jobs, they should be kicked out of office’ I believe the Constitution reads, in slightly more formal prose.
Yet another reason I loathe illegals. They put their own children into situations like this. Terrible.
So, you're saying it's okay to deport the parents and leave the child here? That's as dumb as anything I've read in a long time. Yeah, you're really concerned over the welfare of your student, arent you? Sheesh!
So instead of having a young tax payer who will raise a family, support his community and (God willing) vote Republican, he is going to a country he doesn't know facing a future we would never wish on our children.
What tax payer? Do his parents pay taxes? He's an undocumented alien. How does/will he pay taxes? And why is going back to his country so bad? Millions upon millions of Mexicans still live there. If its so bad, why don't they fix it? Hmmmmmmm? Why come here illegally and screw our country up?
So flame away. But at least have the moral fiber to explain in what moral universe this boy deserves this mess. If you can answer by 8:30 PM tonight, I would appreciate it. You see, that is when he is calling our home from jail to find out what the lawyer told us before he refused to accept the $7,500 retainer. Well Salvador, you are Mexican, so you are screwed.
No, he's not screwed because he's Mexican. He's screwed because his parents brought him to this country illegally. Had they obtained visas this wouldn't be happening. And don't try to lay a guilt trip on me, fella. THEY made the bad decisions. THEY broke the law. And the last time I looked, you break the lay, you pay for it.
You want to help him? You feel sorry for him? YOU pay the retainer. Heck, maybe you should pursue adoption, and see to hit that he becomes naturalized. You're so bleeding heart, well go for it. Put your money where your mouth is.
Actions have consequences. We have 12 to 20 million people who are in this country illegally. Both the boy and his parents must leave the country because they violated our laws. The boy can apply to get back into this country, but he must do it legally from his home country, i.e., get to the back of the line. We have millions of people waiting around the globe to get into this country. They have already gone over all of the bureaucratic hurdles. Because of quotas, they must wait for up to 10 years to enter.
Such anecdotal stories are not the basis on which to make good laws or policies. I am sure that there are millions of similar ones. There are also stories about illegals committing crimes and not being good "citizens." You have to place this story into a larger context.
This boy received a free, public education furnished by the US taxpayer. He received a much better start than those he left behind in Mexico. For that he should be grateful.
Salvador is "screwed" because his parents put him in this position. It doesn't matter if he was Mexican or Lithuanian. I see nothing in your post showing any outrage to the true wrongdoers. Yes, Salvador is a victim--of his parents and their illegal acts, just as children of drug addicts end up in foster care.
Did Salvador talk to any attorneys (there are plenty of free services available) about his immigration predicament, BEFORE he got caught for trying to dodge payment of a traffic ticket? Or did he just think he could continue on indefinitely until Congress accepted "the Human Side of the Immmigration Debate" and gave him a free pass?
Well, cry me a river. This guy is a felon!
It is surprising to me that he will be held over a traffic accident in a detention center until deportation. That does not seem to be the usual practice.
But if that is the case, I see no problem with that. There are many fine people in Mexico. Now there will be one more.
And if Salvador really wants to come back, he’ll come back. Don’t tell anybody, but there is no fence along much of our Southern border.
“...and (God willing) vote Republican...”
What planet is he on to assume this?
How far do we bend it before it breaks??
And thus our moral/legal/ethical habitat becomes subjectively imposed anarchy/chaos?
I certainly feel sad for your hardworking young friend, but what he "deserves" by the citizenry or legal system of the USA does not really enter the picture.
If that was the criteria, his parents would have done better by him and brought him into the USA legally -- it does happen!
Sorry to cut across the grain of his misfortune and your sympathies -- But our laws and our enforcing of those laws is not the proximate cause of the problem. Salvador isn't screwed because he is Mexican....
He is screwed because his parents broke the law of this land by bringing themselves and him into the country illegally
(At the behest and encouragement of their CORRUPT foreign government)
Some times the facts stink...
And the administration of the law seems cold and uneven...
But we are a nation of laws...
And not what we "feel" or even "deserve".
(If you chase that logic to its end and you simply have a slightly sophisticated version of mob rule!)
BTW....
If your young friend is as hard-working and resourceful as you have described -- he will be fine...IMHO
There’s a hundred heartbreaks when you uphold the law, but a million when you don’t.
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