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Can Hillary Clinton win? - Opponents try to cast doubt on her electability
Chicago Tribune ^ | October 20, 2007 | Jill Zuckman

Posted on 10/20/2007 2:48:28 PM PDT by neverdem

WHEAT RIDGE, Colo.—Steve Valdez, a retired high school history teacher, is keeping an eye on the presidential campaign and wondering about Sen. Hillary Clinton's chances.

"Is history ready?" asks Valdez, an independent voter, unsure whether voters will embrace the controversial former first lady for president.

With Clinton consolidating her lead over Sen. Barack Obama and former Sen. John Edwards, her Democratic rivals are increasingly questioning her ability to win the White House in a general election. They say her polarizing persona will keep her from defeating a Republican, hoping the seeds of doubt they plant now will cause voters to look their way come primary or caucus day.

Ever since Clinton stepped onto the presidential stage with her husband, she has been a lightning rod on the right and sometimes the left. She offended some women when she defended her decision to work, saying, "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas." She raised eyebrows when the public learned she had turned $1,000 into $100,000 from cattle futures trading. And she became a political target when she tried to overhaul the health-care system with closed-door meetings.

Her opponents argue that Clinton engenders such hostile feelings that she will energize Republicans against her and other Democratic candidates, particularly in swing states like Colorado. Already, the Republican National Committee is taking aim at Clinton multiple times a day while virtually ignoring her rivals.

The question of electability is often tied up in a candidate's likability, and in Clinton's case, it could also be an alternative way of asking whether a woman can be elected president. It is a loosely defined but fundamentally important part of the formula for a winning candidate.

"I think there's no doubt that she carries some significant baggage," said David Axelrod, Obama's chief...

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
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To: Waco
hillary should be in the same prison as spitzer.

Jail is where most Democrat politicians belong. Democrats are rotten to the core. They believe they're above the law. Iowa Democrats have a huge corruption problem.

41 posted on 10/21/2007 4:54:50 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Democrats--Al Qaeda's best friends)
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To: DustyMoment
So far, the Republicans have yet (still IMO) to field a candidate with sufficient vision and appeal to attract the majority of the conservative base. Withe the likes of Lou Dobbs threatening to try to sway his followers to vote 3rd party should a Giuliani, Romney, or McCain become the GOP nominee, we could well face another 1992 election when Perot returned to the campaign trail (after pulling out) to split the conservative vote and hand the WH to the Clintons. He returned in 1996 against an ineffective (but well-respected) Bob Dole to do it again!!

The very idea of participating in getting history to repeat itself by electing another Clinton is absurd. Surely, we learned something the first time. Thanks, Ross, and all those who voted for him.

42 posted on 10/21/2007 4:58:24 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Democrats--Al Qaeda's best friends)
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To: neverdem

Can the U.S. survive if another liberal gets into office - keys to the country, in her pocket once she gets elected, the terrorists will dance in the streets, and criminal intent will grow deeper, because liberals offer less initiative, and are weak on foreign policy.

In addition, the left will find a way to “bolster” social security, so hide your money in your mattresses and go to gold, because the left will attempt to find a way to “steal” or as they adroitly put it, “liberate” money from the wealthy.

Well... as Mr. Bill , whom I call uncle Bill, because he is a dork, has made it so that anybody making over $53,000 a year are wealthy.

Samuel L. Jackson quote from Jurassic Park: “Hold on to your butts!”


43 posted on 10/21/2007 2:10:54 PM PDT by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: neverdem

And how about the fact that Hillary! is all for the “re-distribution of wealth” (i.e. euphemism for communism)?! This current “Child Insurance” plan is incrementally taking us towards that path.


44 posted on 10/21/2007 4:22:57 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
The very idea of participating in getting history to repeat itself by electing another Clinton is absurd. Surely, we learned something the first time.

I would like to agree with you, but I think that the voters are so frustrated with the current state of affairs of both political parties that anything can happen. The low opinion ratings of the current Democrat-controlled Congress coupled with the bitter taste that many of us still have from the Republican betrayal of their principles leaves the door wide open for almost anything to happen.

As far as learning something from the 8 years of scandal and corruption that Clinton I brought, I'm not convinced. Too many people are still drooling for Clinton II to return and show the Republicans a thing or two. Interestingly enough, the Dems are still running against Bush instead of formulating new plans and a new vision for America that excites voters. If we keep our own counsel, we can avoid spilling the beans and letting them discover that Bush isn't running - Rudy, John, Mitt, Fred, Duncan, Mike and a few others are!!

But, that's OUR little secret!

Shhhhhhhhhh!!!!

45 posted on 10/21/2007 5:29:23 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Sword_Svalbardt
Well... as Mr. Bill , whom I call uncle Bill, because he is a dork, has made it so that anybody making over $53,000 a year are wealthy.

Who's that, Clinton, and do you have a link?

46 posted on 10/21/2007 5:45:39 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping.


47 posted on 10/21/2007 9:18:53 PM PDT by GOPJ (When it makes you mad -- "ping & grrrr" -- Freeper:pandoraou812)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
She can definitely win,minorities,women and the Jewish vote will go to Hillary.Rudy is the only one that can beat her because he can get the independent vote.
48 posted on 10/22/2007 12:56:02 AM PDT by patriciamary (9)
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To: DustyMoment
Your right,Look at 06 elections and the results,I guess many want more Pelosi/Reed government.
49 posted on 10/22/2007 12:59:15 AM PDT by patriciamary (9)
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To: Radix

I’m voting for Rudy because he can beat her.conservatives better wake up.


50 posted on 10/22/2007 1:01:38 AM PDT by patriciamary (9)
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To: DustyMoment
I couldn't agree more about the RATS running against Bush. I saw some of the Republican "debate". They looked like a great bunch to me and the problem is choosing just one.

The interesting part was watching them run against Hillary. That's much smarter than the RATs who are running against Bush and he won't be on the ballot.

51 posted on 10/22/2007 4:54:10 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Democrats--Al Qaeda's best friends)
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To: patriciamary

I’m Jewish and you can take my vote out of that category. There are several Jewish Freepers and they certainly are telling all their friends what a POS Hitlery is. I suggest you go to www.rjchq.org and read what other Jews are saying about Liberals. I would also caution anyone that says “women” will vote for that sinister, evil witch. No one I know can stand her either. Generalities won’t work in this election. What this election needs is a GOP with gonads to expose all the dirty laundry that’s been piling up on these candidates. The Clintons have more “dead” associates that can be linked to them than any politician in history. Where’s the big-time investigation and exposure of those skeletons? The Clintons are Marxists and where is the exposure of that? This election is going to take gonads, spine, and fortitude and the realization that our country, our security, our freedoms, and our future will go down the toilet bowl with the Clintons or any other Marxist Liberal.


52 posted on 10/22/2007 7:08:49 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: neverdem

It was all over the news. MSM made a big thing about it.


53 posted on 10/22/2007 7:48:17 AM PDT by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: Sword_Svalbardt
It was all over the news. MSM made a big thing about it.

That's great. Please, find it. I couldn't. The neoCOMMIES are trying to make hay about the President's veto of the SCHIP bill which would mean that a family of four, making $82,600 a year would be eligible. Thus, children in families that are in the top 25 percent of income-earners would be eligible for government-funded health insurance. It also would extend the definition of the term “child” up to 25 years old!

I tried to find where $53,000 was described as wealthy, but no luck. Can you give me some help?

54 posted on 10/22/2007 8:53:50 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
Can you give me some help?

You have to parse politician-speak. In recent years, politicians have defined the "wealthy" as those of us earning enough money to pay income taxes!

Makes ya feel tingly all over, don't it?

55 posted on 10/22/2007 12:43:59 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Waco
hillary should be in the same prison as spitzer.

Not quite. Tubba should be in the same prison - and cell - as Bubba. That way, they will suffer the additional punishment of having to live with each other all the time.

56 posted on 10/22/2007 9:09:52 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Well said, ExTexasRedhead!

Notice no mention of the recently exposed (LA Times) Chinese fund raising scandal in New York. And, of course, no mention of the 2000 Senate campaign finance scandal and Peter Paul's ongoing litigation. That's because this Jill Zuckman is obviously a Clinton shill.

57 posted on 10/22/2007 9:22:01 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Truth Bump!!!

Aloha Ronnie always on Target!


58 posted on 10/27/2007 9:31:40 PM PDT by reformjoy ("I'm ready for my close-up!" - Hillary Clinton in the White House, Jan 2009)
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