Skip to comments.Liberalism in my school
Posted on 10/22/2007 4:08:20 PM PDT by BullHalsey
All God's Children (Mark Walton in Manila, Philipines)
Smokey Mountain in Manila, Philipines is a community built on a trash dump where over 25,000 people subsists "among methane fumes scavenging hope and survival from droppings of garbage truck."
For many children living in Smokey Mountain, the way out is death. Yet, for most Filipinos in Manila, artificial contraception is not a choice since 80% are Roman Catholic. For the orthodox, users of contraception are considered sinners "if they know it to be wrong, and understand it to be wrong." Natural birth control through the rhythm method (avoiding sex during period of high fertility is condoned by the Church). The Catholic religion is as influential in Latin America and growing in Africa too.
In Philipines, Marcos provided free family planning and health education, but in '86, Aquino who came to power with the help of the Church, funding for the program stopped and the supply of contraceptives stopped. They consider the problem to be not one of too much population, but that "too few control too much wealth."
It started off talking about how women do not have rights in countries like india. But that soon led to them saying that they didn't have the right to not have kids. Then that they couldn't afford contraceptives. Then how they couldn't afford to have children. And finally to how they needed safe abortions.
It gets worse. The video went on to slam Churches for not allowing follower to have abortions or recieve contraceptives. The video made it sound like Religion was the cause of poverty, starvation and infanticide in these countries.
If you guys have any ideas on how i would be able to combat this, tell me.
Did you write this yourself, or just copy if from a message board?
I will certainly get flamed for this but ... religion, with its emphasis on no contraception/abortion and male privilege to control the wife, does directly have an impact on the number of children born in any family and hence its financial situation.
If the family is on the edge, more children is a cause of poverty and starvation. Heck, we see it in this country - unmarried women with children living off the government.
The cure ? Capitalism - laws, private property ownership, and innovation. Again, this country is the prime example. Where you find infanticide, starvation and poverty you usually find socialism/communism or religious tyrrany.
here is the the outline link.
either fight back or swallow it.
yes, but promoting contraceptives should not be the way to handle it. We should educate these people and help them improve living conditions through, like you said, Capitalism.
He wants to fight back and is asking for help. IE links and opinion. He is young. Get it?
thanks for the link. mandatory government controls on birth was hinted at in the video.
Most Catholics in developed countries do not have large numbers of kids. Religion is not the problem, poverty is.
The unwillingness of people to practice abstinance or wait until marriage in poor countries causes alot of it.
Chinese people don’t really have a religion, yet they are the most populous country in the world. Like i said, poverty
thanks again. I was disgusted when the video showed pictures of murdered babies while talking about religious policies against contraception and abortion. ill take anything i can get.
Chinese people don’t have a religion ? I believe a good portion do, and lots more would if the state would be neutral on the subject. Besides, communism is a religion - to them.
As for the Church - you decide: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=%5CForeignBureaus%5Carchive%5C200512%5CFOR20051227b.html
Especially consider the situation of women - in many of these countries girls/women are owned by their fathers/brothers until marriage, whereupon they become the property of their husbands. Women, in many of these places, do not have choices. If the husband doesn’t want to abstain, she has no choice. It’s why I support voluntary contraception when there is no alternative.
All of this is the reason we should be fighting for the strength of Western civilization and capitalism.
I know what liberalism in school feels like. 12 years of public school in deep blue Maryland and now I have begun four more years of excessive liberalism in college. And people wonder why kids hate school...
how deep in the blue state... i went to baltimore city public schools graduating from northern high.
now live on the right side of maryland in the land of pleasant living...
this state is in for a rude, read omalley’s taxes, awakening.
Depopulation doesn't exactly have "happy" results.
yes i know what your saying, but wouldn’t improving their economic conditions bear more results than haning out condoms?
the worst part is that many of my classmates are ignorant enough to swallow it all. I cant argue all of them back to reason. i hate to see my pears believe this stuff. propaganda in school needs to stop. what happened to teachers not voicing their political opinions?
Ellicott City, about an hour away from Baltimore, Annapolis, and DC
Sounds like a liberal busybody with too much time on their hands.
Just as the push to “normalize” alternative sexual orientations is now obvious, so the push to criminalize Christianity and to make atheism the “natural state” is becoming really blatant.
Overpopulation is in the eye of the beholder. Consider all the European countries which are now in dire straits because of their native population decrease and their consequent importation of people from other cultures.
what happened to teachers not voicing their political opinions?
Teachers with conservative views (there are some) obeyed the rule not to bring political opinion into subject matter; leftist teachers gave themselves permission to break that rule “because it was necessary!”
I doubt it - they need Western culture as much as they need capitalism.
When your culture places no value on female life except as breeders, females are then ... only breeders, with no importance to anyone. When your culture does not believe that medical care is important to the breeders so much as not being “seen” by a male doctor, then you have a “nasty, short, and brutish” life as Hobbes would say. If contraception gives these women some measure of relief in their lives, then I’m all for it.