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Liberalism in my school
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Posted on 10/22/2007 4:08:20 PM PDT by BullHalsey

All God's Children (Mark Walton in Manila, Philipines)

Smokey Mountain in Manila, Philipines is a community built on a trash dump where over 25,000 people subsists "among methane fumes scavenging hope and survival from droppings of garbage truck."

For many children living in Smokey Mountain, the way out is death. Yet, for most Filipinos in Manila, artificial contraception is not a choice since 80% are Roman Catholic. For the orthodox, users of contraception are considered sinners "if they know it to be wrong, and understand it to be wrong." Natural birth control through the rhythm method (avoiding sex during period of high fertility is condoned by the Church). The Catholic religion is as influential in Latin America and growing in Africa too.

In Philipines, Marcos provided free family planning and health education, but in '86, Aquino who came to power with the help of the Church, funding for the program stopped and the supply of contraceptives stopped. They consider the problem to be not one of too much population, but that "too few control too much wealth."


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: abortion; academia; demographics; eugenics; killmenow; liberal; lifehate; philippines; populationcontrol; propoganda; religion; school
At my High School we have to take a class called Environmental Systems. Its a class all about shoving liberal garbage about global warming and such down our throats. I try not to argue so i can just get through the class, but today we had to watch an hour and a half long video about overpopulation. It was called "People Bomb", a 1992 CNN video special with help from the Sierra Club. I knew it wouldn't be good.

It started off talking about how women do not have rights in countries like india. But that soon led to them saying that they didn't have the right to not have kids. Then that they couldn't afford contraceptives. Then how they couldn't afford to have children. And finally to how they needed safe abortions.

It gets worse. The video went on to slam Churches for not allowing follower to have abortions or recieve contraceptives. The video made it sound like Religion was the cause of poverty, starvation and infanticide in these countries.

If you guys have any ideas on how i would be able to combat this, tell me.

1 posted on 10/22/2007 4:08:21 PM PDT by BullHalsey
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To: BullHalsey

Did you write this yourself, or just copy if from a message board?


2 posted on 10/22/2007 4:13:49 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: BullHalsey

I will certainly get flamed for this but ... religion, with its emphasis on no contraception/abortion and male privilege to control the wife, does directly have an impact on the number of children born in any family and hence its financial situation.

If the family is on the edge, more children is a cause of poverty and starvation. Heck, we see it in this country - unmarried women with children living off the government.

The cure ? Capitalism - laws, private property ownership, and innovation. Again, this country is the prime example. Where you find infanticide, starvation and poverty you usually find socialism/communism or religious tyrrany.


3 posted on 10/22/2007 4:20:19 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: stinkerpot65

http://www.csun.edu/~sg61795/350/peoplebomb.html

here is the the outline link.


4 posted on 10/22/2007 4:20:43 PM PDT by BullHalsey (Newt08)
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To: BullHalsey

either fight back or swallow it.


5 posted on 10/22/2007 4:21:32 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: cinives

yes, but promoting contraceptives should not be the way to handle it. We should educate these people and help them improve living conditions through, like you said, Capitalism.


6 posted on 10/22/2007 4:22:30 PM PDT by BullHalsey (Newt08)
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To: enough_idiocy

He wants to fight back and is asking for help. IE links and opinion. He is young. Get it?


7 posted on 10/22/2007 4:22:54 PM PDT by carjic
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To: BullHalsey
This article looks pretty interesting and it links to several other articles; it also references a book which may be in your local library:

Is Human Population Really the Problem?
8 posted on 10/22/2007 4:23:03 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: \/\/ayne

thanks for the link. mandatory government controls on birth was hinted at in the video.


9 posted on 10/22/2007 4:26:20 PM PDT by BullHalsey (Newt08)
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To: cinives

Most Catholics in developed countries do not have large numbers of kids. Religion is not the problem, poverty is.
The unwillingness of people to practice abstinance or wait until marriage in poor countries causes alot of it.

Chinese people don’t really have a religion, yet they are the most populous country in the world. Like i said, poverty


10 posted on 10/22/2007 4:29:40 PM PDT by BullHalsey (Newt08)
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To: BullHalsey
Found another interesting website, the Population Research Institute

I found these by typing the words population and myth into google.
11 posted on 10/22/2007 4:30:33 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: \/\/ayne

thanks again. I was disgusted when the video showed pictures of murdered babies while talking about religious policies against contraception and abortion. ill take anything i can get.


12 posted on 10/22/2007 4:38:49 PM PDT by BullHalsey (Newt08)
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To: BullHalsey
thanks again.

You are quite welcome. I would write to the Population Research Institute as well, maybe they can recommend a movie you can ask the teacher to show "to be fair." I'm sure he wants to be fair!
13 posted on 10/22/2007 4:42:45 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: BullHalsey

Chinese people don’t have a religion ? I believe a good portion do, and lots more would if the state would be neutral on the subject. Besides, communism is a religion - to them.

As for the Church - you decide: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=%5CForeignBureaus%5Carchive%5C200512%5CFOR20051227b.html

Especially consider the situation of women - in many of these countries girls/women are owned by their fathers/brothers until marriage, whereupon they become the property of their husbands. Women, in many of these places, do not have choices. If the husband doesn’t want to abstain, she has no choice. It’s why I support voluntary contraception when there is no alternative.

All of this is the reason we should be fighting for the strength of Western civilization and capitalism.


14 posted on 10/22/2007 4:46:21 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: BullHalsey

I know what liberalism in school feels like. 12 years of public school in deep blue Maryland and now I have begun four more years of excessive liberalism in college. And people wonder why kids hate school...


15 posted on 10/22/2007 5:04:20 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
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To: G8 Diplomat

how deep in the blue state... i went to baltimore city public schools graduating from northern high.

now live on the right side of maryland in the land of pleasant living...

this state is in for a rude, read omalley’s taxes, awakening.

teeman


16 posted on 10/22/2007 5:18:13 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: BullHalsey
Ask the teacher how they plan to handle the "demographic crash" (declining population) in, say, European countries. Since at the current rates Muslims will reach a majority of the population it should prove rather amusing to see how secular liberals plan to handle that situation.

Depopulation doesn't exactly have "happy" results.

17 posted on 10/22/2007 5:40:07 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: cinives

yes i know what your saying, but wouldn’t improving their economic conditions bear more results than haning out condoms?


18 posted on 10/22/2007 5:40:45 PM PDT by BullHalsey (Newt08)
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To: G8 Diplomat

the worst part is that many of my classmates are ignorant enough to swallow it all. I cant argue all of them back to reason. i hate to see my pears believe this stuff. propaganda in school needs to stop. what happened to teachers not voicing their political opinions?


19 posted on 10/22/2007 5:42:56 PM PDT by BullHalsey (Newt08)
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To: teeman8r

Ellicott City, about an hour away from Baltimore, Annapolis, and DC


20 posted on 10/22/2007 5:53:58 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
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To: BullHalsey
It is beyond the competence of an NEA-brainwashed liberal Social Studies teacher to solve the problems in a Pacific Island culture. It's also beyond the U.S. Constitution.

Sounds like a liberal busybody with too much time on their hands.

If this person is attacking Catholic ethical teachings you may have a Civil Rights violation going on. Give the Catholic League a ping on this. Or The Thomas More Law Center.

21 posted on 10/22/2007 5:59:54 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: BullHalsey

Just as the push to “normalize” alternative sexual orientations is now obvious, so the push to criminalize Christianity and to make atheism the “natural state” is becoming really blatant.

Overpopulation is in the eye of the beholder. Consider all the European countries which are now in dire straits because of their native population decrease and their consequent importation of people from other cultures.


22 posted on 10/22/2007 6:02:10 PM PDT by maica (Where will Americans go for treatment, when we get a Canadian-style “free” healthcare system?)
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To: BullHalsey

what happened to teachers not voicing their political opinions?

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Teachers with conservative views (there are some) obeyed the rule not to bring political opinion into subject matter; leftist teachers gave themselves permission to break that rule “because it was necessary!”


23 posted on 10/22/2007 6:07:09 PM PDT by maica (Where will Americans go for treatment, when we get a Canadian-style “free” healthcare system?)
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To: BullHalsey

I doubt it - they need Western culture as much as they need capitalism.

When your culture places no value on female life except as breeders, females are then ... only breeders, with no importance to anyone. When your culture does not believe that medical care is important to the breeders so much as not being “seen” by a male doctor, then you have a “nasty, short, and brutish” life as Hobbes would say. If contraception gives these women some measure of relief in their lives, then I’m all for it.


24 posted on 10/23/2007 5:21:59 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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