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2007 Christmas Stamps (Vanity)
http://www.usps.com/communications/newsroom/2007stamps/downloadcenter.htm</em: ^ | 10-25-2007 | None

Posted on 10/25/2007 11:48:44 AM PDT by lilylangtree

The Postal Service announced the new 2007 Christmas stamp "The Madonna of the Carnation" for Catholics. Also, the USPS came out with the Christmas stamps commemorating the Muslim holiday of EID (Sep 28). Plus, USPS will release stamps recognizing Kwanzaa and Hanukkah (Oct 26). And for those in the "none of the above" category, the Holiday Knits stamps series will be available as of today.

I commend the Postal Service for its political correctness. However, as a Christian that believes in Jesus Christ, where is the Christmas stamp to represent the Christian belief?

Has our country moved so far away from its Christian foundation that we must now ask "where is our representation"?


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To: null and void

Not to worry- growing my afro would first necessitate growing my hair, something I haven’t been able to do in a VERY long time...


181 posted on 10/25/2007 1:16:47 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: XeniaSt

Odd. I heard it was set when it was to offset the Pagan celebration, much as Hanukkah became a big deal so Jewish kids wouldn’t feel left out during the Christmas season.


182 posted on 10/25/2007 1:16:49 PM PDT by null and void (Franz Kafka would have killed himself in despair if he lived in the world we inhabit today.)
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To: gracesdad

I was making a more general statement, not specifically referring to the stamp with Mary and Jesus. I apologize that I didn’t make my statement more clear.


183 posted on 10/25/2007 1:18:04 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: muawiyah
The USPS is not validating anything. It's publishing stamps the public will buy and use happily.

Entirely agreed. I think I got caught up in a conversation that's just a bit absurd to begin with.

Post offices all over the country would be down to their last stock on hand and it'd be Roosevelt stamps the locals wouldn't touch because, as they said "They'd not kiss Roosevelt's a**".

Heh...they sound like good people...

184 posted on 10/25/2007 1:20:23 PM PDT by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: null and void

There are a LOT of revisionist theories about why Constantine chose the dates he did. I suspect that the main reason he chose them was because people were partying on those dates anyway so there was no need to disrupt their lives.


185 posted on 10/25/2007 1:20:49 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Elsiejay

As far as I know Mary with the child Jesus is Biblical. She was present at his birth and since it is a Christmas stamp then it is very appropriate.

I don’t know about you but when I read the Christmas story, Mary and Joseph are always present.

What? Do non-Catholics want to pretend that Mary didn’t exist? Or is it just non-PC to mention her?


186 posted on 10/25/2007 1:23:11 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Squawk 8888

There are only four days it ‘makes sense’ to have holidays anyway. Two solstices, and two equinoxes...


187 posted on 10/25/2007 1:24:09 PM PDT by null and void (Franz Kafka would have killed himself in despair if he lived in the world we inhabit today.)
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To: null and void
There are only four days it ‘makes sense’ to have holidays anyway. Two solstices, and two equinoxes...

And Super Bowl Sunday, of course!

188 posted on 10/25/2007 1:27:16 PM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: lilylangtree

I think it’s probably the “Madonna of the INcarnation”, which, or course, means Jesus taking human form. The stamps always show classical paintings of Mary with Jesus sitting on her lap, so Jesus IS there, but He’s shown as an infant, which he WAS at Christmas.


189 posted on 10/25/2007 1:27:23 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Don’t be silly! It’s at a half way point between Winter Solstice and Spring Equinox for a reason!


190 posted on 10/25/2007 1:30:57 PM PDT by null and void (Franz Kafka would have killed himself in despair if he lived in the world we inhabit today.)
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To: It's me
How is that a "Catholic perspective" as opposed to a Christian perspective? What would be a Christian perspective? Santa Claus?

It's pretty subtle - and not a very big deal - but you don't hear Protestants using the term Madonna much. They'd be more likely to title the same work of art "Jesus and Mary" or something like that. Subtle and minor, and moot, since it turns out the painting in question predates the Reformation.

191 posted on 10/25/2007 1:31:07 PM PDT by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: lilylangtree

Oops! I’m wrong, it IS the “Madonna of the Carnation”. Jesus is holding a single flower in His hand. I didn’t see it at first, because it background is dark, and the flower doesn’t stand out against it that much. Maybe the painter got the idea from Leonardo da Vinci’s “Madonna with the Carnation”.


192 posted on 10/25/2007 1:33:46 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: xjcsa
Protestants using the term Madonna much.

Granted it has been a while, but back several years ago I remember hearing several country Baptist preachers mention Madonna in their sermons.


193 posted on 10/25/2007 1:34:42 PM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: lilylangtree

I think the original poster is concerned that the only Christian/Christmas stamp the last few years has been in the “Icon” style (Orthodox/Catholic style). I tend to agree...that being said you have more options now to make your own or use designs by other Christians. See:
http://www.zazzle.com/merry_christmas_postage-172383184815491013
http://www.zazzle.com/krw_with_doves_postage-172207872408520121
http://photo.stamps.com/Store/

Orthodox icon info. here:
http://orthodoxiconsonline.com/


194 posted on 10/25/2007 1:35:07 PM PDT by Drago
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To: lilylangtree

I just realized that you wrote this, could you tell me who Mary of the Carnation is?


195 posted on 10/25/2007 1:35:28 PM PDT by tiki
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To: lilylangtree

Excuse me, Madonna of the Carnation.

No, I don’t think any freepers or Christians are being slighted. I’m thinking that some freepers lack education or are themselves bigoted and would slight other freepers with their uneducated perceptions.


196 posted on 10/25/2007 1:39:07 PM PDT by tiki
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To: KarlInOhio
The USPS site has the new and improved 41 cent version. That way baby Jesus doesn't have to reach out towards some two cent Navajo Jewelry.

ROTFL. Actually He'll be looking at some Chippendale chairs on some of my letters because I still have some Christmas stamps that are $.37! ;o)

197 posted on 10/25/2007 1:40:06 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: null and void
Odd. I heard it was set when it was to offset the Pagan celebration, much as Hanukkah became a big deal so Jewish kids wouldn’t feel left out during the Christmas season.

If one needed a birthday for Yah'shua, a clear reading of Luke 1
would lead you to the Feast of Tabernacles in the Fall on the 15th of Tishrei.

But the codification of Paganism was also to eradicate any connection to
Judaism as well and replace it with Paganism.

OBTW Yah'shua celebrated Hanukkah John 10:22.

shalom b'shem Yah'shua
198 posted on 10/25/2007 1:40:22 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Bogtrotter52

While I think Kwanzaa is ridiculous I feel that people have every right to celebrate the holidays that they want to celebrate.


199 posted on 10/25/2007 1:41:30 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
She was the mother of our Lord . . . but that is all she is seen as. No different from other true believers in the Bible.

Jesus revered her; don't see why WE shouldn't.

200 posted on 10/25/2007 1:44:01 PM PDT by SuziQ
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