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Terri Schiavo's Brother Wants to Talk With GOP Candidates About Her
Life News ^ | 10/25/07 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 10/25/2007 4:05:19 PM PDT by wagglebee

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- With Fred Thompson becoming the latest Republican presidential candidate to say that the federal and state government shouldn't have been involved in trying to save Terri Schiavo's life, her brother says he wants to talk with the GOP hopefuls.

He says they would be more likely to support the actions Congress and the Florida legislature took to try to help his family prevent her former husband from subjecting her to a painful euthanasia death if they knew more about her case.

"I want to personally talk with them about Terri's case," Bobby Schindler told the Boston Globe. "They need to be fully informed. There obviously exists a lot of confusion about my sister's situation."

Schindler told the newspaper that he plans to write each candidate a letter about Terri's circumstances and the painful 13-day starvation and dehydration death her former husband Michael made her endure.

He says Terri's case was not an end-of-life one because she wasn't dying and that his family took their lawsuit to federal courts because state courts had mandated that she be killed.

Thompson responded to questions about Terri Schiavo on Monday and said he didn't think that government should intervene in cases like hers. He says government should stay out and let families decide.

“It should be decided by the families — the federal government and the state government too, except for the court system, ought to stay out of those matters as far as I am concerned," he said.

One leading pro-life advocate who spoke with LifeNews.com about the comments on the condition of anonymity said the media is making too much of Thompson's comments in an attempt to show a divide between him and the pro-life movement or the Schindler family.

The pro-life leader said Thompson's view that government shouldn't make end-of-life decisions fits into the pro-life perspective but that government had to intervene in Terri's case because her family was split over her care.

However the pro-life community views Thompsons' remarks, the Schindler family has found a reason to be disappointed with the comments most of the candidates have had on the case.

The family endorsed pro-life Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback, but he dropped out of the race last week.

Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney has come under fire for his comments, as have ex-New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and Senator John McCain of Arizona.

Even former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, who is considered one of the better candidates left in the race from the pro-life perspective, told the St. Petersburg Times earlier this year, "I wasn't sure how the federal government had a role in all that."



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"I want to personally talk with them about Terri's case," Bobby Schindler told the Boston Globe. "They need to be fully informed. There obviously exists a lot of confusion about my sister's situation."

Yes there does.

1 posted on 10/25/2007 4:05:20 PM PDT by wagglebee
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Pro-Life Ping


2 posted on 10/25/2007 4:05:45 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BykrBayb; Dante3; Sun; floriduh voter; bjs1779

Terri Ping


3 posted on 10/25/2007 4:09:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 10/25/2007 4:09:37 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

True.


5 posted on 10/25/2007 4:10:03 PM PDT by Dante3
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"I want to personally talk with them about Terri's case," Bobby Schindler told the Boston Globe. "They need to be fully informed. There obviously exists a lot of confusion about my sister's situation."

What a joke. They want to start this circus again?

I want to personally talk with the candidates about my complicated tax return - but it ain't going to happen.

6 posted on 10/25/2007 4:11:13 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: wagglebee
He'll be wasting his breath...do you think they care?
7 posted on 10/25/2007 4:17:35 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: wagglebee
"Terri Schiavo's Brother Wants to Talk With GOP Candidates About Her"

No doubt Thompson will respond with "I'm not going to dance to anybody's tune," again.

Such a diplomatic guy, hard to believe that he comes to us via the self-involved Hollywood types.

(/sarcasm)

8 posted on 10/25/2007 4:24:01 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: wagglebee
I'm in partial agreement with a visitor upthread©. Not many politicians are going to listen to the truth. That isn't because politicians are too ethical, as a troll might like you to believe. It's because they already know enough details about Terri's murder to know that it was wrong, but openly discussing it with Terri's family would deprive them of their element of plausible deniability.
9 posted on 10/25/2007 4:26:51 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: Swordfished
What a joke. They want to start this circus again?

Oh come on, it's the 'problem' that never goes away!! Both parties have those within their midst that believe government knows best. And of course if the federal government sets a standard, they'll whine about that. The federal government will change it, and others will whine about that. It's the perpetual call of big government lovers, be they social 'conservatives' or far leaning lefties.

That's what will rot this nation from within. It won't be the boogeyman Islamowhatevers, it won't be the mean Chinese with a booming economy, it will be those that believe the federal government should be involved in anything and everything that will drag this nation to its demise.

10 posted on 10/25/2007 4:34:54 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears

And then there are those of us who want the government to do the job they’re supposed to do, instead of interfering in our lives and ordering the death of innocent citizens. But please, don’t let the truth get in the way of your agenda.


11 posted on 10/25/2007 4:36:44 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: wagglebee
Glad to hear this. I can't in good conscience vote for anyone who thinks Terri's murder was legal, and acceptable because it was legal. It was cruel, deliberate murder.

God bless the Schindlers' efforts.

12 posted on 10/25/2007 4:40:18 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Call me a pro-life zealot with a 1-track mind.)
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To: billbears; BykrBayb; 8mmMauser
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." -- Santayana

I can't help but notice that your tagline is very inconsistent with your views which totally contradict the principles upon which our Republic was founded.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, [emphasis added is mine]
-- The Declaration of Independence

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
-- The Constitution of the United States

It is abundantly clear that the Founding Fathers declared our independence AND formed our constitutional republic to protect life.

13 posted on 10/25/2007 4:51:06 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Even if Terri’s murder was technically legal, AND IT WASN’T, it was still immoral and barbaric.


14 posted on 10/25/2007 4:52:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Whatever you do to the least of my brothers


15 posted on 10/25/2007 4:55:17 PM PDT by mbraynard (Tagline changed due to admin request)
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To: mbraynard

The last portion of the 25th chapter of Matthew explains the difference between the pro-life movement and the culture of death as better than anything ever written.


16 posted on 10/25/2007 4:57:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
I can't help but notice that your tagline is very inconsistent with your views which totally contradict the principles upon which our Republic was founded.

You mean the principles the federal government was limited to very specific issues and the rest was left to the states? Or the SoCon Huckabee myth that most of the Framers were ministers and what they really meant to establish was a federal government that would deal with every moral concern the citizens of the separate and sovereign states may face?

17 posted on 10/25/2007 5:01:04 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: wagglebee; billbears; 8mmMauser
Those words still stir passion in my soul. Do they do the same for you, or are they just dusty words on old parchment? How many of us read those words, and are encouraged to defend those principles? Can I get a show of hands?

I

18 posted on 10/25/2007 5:08:30 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: BykrBayb

BTTT!


19 posted on 10/25/2007 5:10:23 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: billbears

In your fondness for hyphenated conservatism, what hyphenated label do you prefer for yourself?

You cherry pick conservative tidbits to support an agenda that does not fit in here at all.


20 posted on 10/25/2007 5:11:24 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: billbears; BykrBayb; 8mmMauser
You mean the principles the federal government was limited to very specific issues and the rest was left to the states?

Perhaps you are unaware that Amendments to the Constitution are actually PART of the Constitution, they ARE NOT subordinate to it.

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. [Emphasis added is mine]
-- Amendment XIV of the Constitution of the United States

Even IF Florida law had allowed Michael Schiavo, Felos and Greer to kill Terri and ignore a Congressional subpoena (which it DOESN'T), the federal government was clearly empowered to prevent them from enforcing a law that is unconstitutional under the Fourteenth Amendment.

You and the other liberaltarian-anarchists love to throw around the powers that were "reserved to the states," but you do not seem to understand that the Constitution was later AMENDED to address some of these issues.

21 posted on 10/25/2007 5:22:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

If you had your way, the federal government would be so busy exercising the powers delegated to it by the Constitution, they wouldn’t have time to indulge the whimsical “constitutional” inventions of libs.


22 posted on 10/25/2007 5:31:38 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: BykrBayb
If you had your way, the federal government would be so busy exercising the powers delegated to it by the Constitution,

I'm mainly looking for them to stop the murders of innocent people.

23 posted on 10/25/2007 5:33:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
You and the other liberaltarian-anarchists love to throw around the powers that were "reserved to the states," but you do not seem to understand that the Constitution was later AMENDED to address some of these issues.

Actually it wasn't. Progressives like yourself run to the 14th Amendment because you have no argument. Tell us, in comparison to the passage of the 14th Amendment at what date was the 5th Amendment applied to the separate and sovereign states? The 1st? The 8th? 7th? Take your time to look it up if you so choose. The point is that contrary to progressive revisionists, the 14th Amendment did not incorporate any of the Amendments (and even then selectively over time) until the 20th century.

24 posted on 10/25/2007 5:36:49 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: wagglebee

That puts you in good company. Our founding fathers would be pleased that the ideals to which they dedicated their lives are still alive. They would not be pleased at the threat that is waged against those ideals by our own countrymen.


25 posted on 10/25/2007 5:38:59 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: billbears; BykrBayb; 8mmMauser

Whatever. Anarchists like you love to pretend that the Fourteenth Amendment doesn’t exist, but it does.

Go make another homemade RINO Paul sign to litter the roads or something.


26 posted on 10/25/2007 5:40:14 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: billbears

ROFLMAO!!!! Oh, do tell us what you think the 14th Amendment is. This should be good for a few more laughs.


27 posted on 10/25/2007 5:41:52 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: wagglebee
Tell us, in comparison to the passage of the 14th Amendment at what date was the 5th Amendment applied to the separate and sovereign states? The 1st? The 8th? 7th? Take your time to look it up if you so choose. The point is that contrary to progressive revisionists, the 14th Amendment did not incorporate any of the Amendments (and even then selectively over time) until the 20th century

Whatever. Anarchists like you love to pretend that the Fourteenth Amendment doesn’t exist, but it does.

LOL, can't answer the question can you? Well you could I suppose but it would counter your lame argument. So instead you call names...

Anarchists huh? Federalists are now called anarchists by 'good conservatives'. How precious...

28 posted on 10/25/2007 5:43:37 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: BykrBayb
No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

It's pretty clear that it is restricting the power of states to make arbitrary laws to murder people. The end of the Fourteenth Amendment is also quite clear in its intent:

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

29 posted on 10/25/2007 5:45:12 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; billbears

You’re singing to the choir with that post. I stand beside you in supporting our Constitution. Our visitor doesn’t seem to get it though.


30 posted on 10/25/2007 5:48:12 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: billbears

It doesn’t make a damn bit of difference WHEN other Amendments were applied to the individual states, the Fourteenth Amendment gave Congress the authority to protect Terri. You may not like it, you may not agree with it, but it is very clear and it is the law of the land.

Go buy some more mining stocks so you will be protected from the government you hate so much and as an added benefit you will make RINO Paul a little wealthier personally.


31 posted on 10/25/2007 5:49:28 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: billbears

Are you suggesting the 14th Amendment doesn’t come into effect until the others expire? When are their expiration dates? Where do you get your interpretation?


32 posted on 10/25/2007 5:57:02 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: wagglebee
Excellent. I would hope Bobby Schindler could have a GOP summit. They truly don't haven't done their own research but remember Mitt Romney helped Haleigh Poutre, didn't he? She was going to end up as body parts for the organ donor set.

Giuliani is clueless, Ron Paul clueless, Huckabee waffles on Terri...Hunter was for Terri and so was Tancredo. Hunter and Tancredo out of that entire field of so called pro-life candidates. Mitt gets extra credit for helping Haleigh but in debates, he's ill equipped on the subject of Terri.

Terri was mentioned by a caller on Sean Hannity's radio show last night. Her death is troubling to many people as they become aware that it wasn't just about her.

33 posted on 10/25/2007 6:00:47 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: zerosix

LOL. I already forgot about Thompson and left him off my candidate list that I just posted somewhere at FR.


34 posted on 10/25/2007 6:02:02 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: billbears
Progressives were cheerleading Terri's death. To call us progressives is laughable. It's my opinion that we are all created equal and have inalienable rights unless our name was Terri Schiavo.

www.judgegeorgegreer.com (his prison cell awaits him).

35 posted on 10/25/2007 6:09:20 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: BykrBayb

bb, didn’t you hear that people with disabilities aren’t really people? They aren’t worthy of life cuz they need a little help. If Hitler understood it, why don’t you?


36 posted on 10/25/2007 6:11:39 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: wagglebee
can you tell I need new contacts?

They truly don't haven't done their own research.

37 posted on 10/25/2007 6:12:41 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: BykrBayb

Forgettable Fred. I just did. If he won’t talk about his daughter, or someone’s sister, or health issues, how can he be the boss of the Dept. of HHS? President’s don’t get to choose what happens including civil rights and/or health issues.


38 posted on 10/25/2007 6:14:39 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: floriduh voter

Same reason you don’t understand it. We’re too smart.


39 posted on 10/25/2007 6:15:02 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: floriduh voter

Freepathon is over! We hit the goal! Woo Hoo!


40 posted on 10/25/2007 6:15:35 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: wagglebee

I would like to see Romney meet with Terri’s family. It would be a great dialog.


41 posted on 10/25/2007 6:16:55 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: wagglebee
It's up to the family. It's a crying shame that Terry's family was such a conflicted mess, but bringing the government into it would only make things worse -- and it did.

We're damned foolish if we play liberals here and let our emotions run wild. Let the family fight it out among themselves and leave it there.

42 posted on 10/25/2007 6:21:09 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: wagglebee

Agreed. I would only take issue with one thing. A true libertarian could never endorse the killing of an innocent person like Terri. It was state-enforced homicide.


43 posted on 10/25/2007 6:35:29 PM PDT by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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To: wagglebee

I don’t think he is being politically smart.

He can achieve the desired result by couching his position as “wanting to prevent future crisis”.

Instead he is now being spun as a person who is fighting the fight that is over.

he should be creating new laws which WOULD stand up constitutional muster. this way it looks like he is looking backwards not forwards.


44 posted on 10/25/2007 6:38:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: floriduh voter
"Progressives were cheerleading Terri's death."

When a dozen-plus Congressional Democrats added their voices to the Starvation Nation, I remarked at the time how nearly every one of them belonged to the Democratic Socialists of America [DSA] caucus.

Then later this was as much confirmed when Schiavo started his payback PAC for '06, and proceeded to get most of his DUmmie candidates beat [in a historically significant mid-2nd term opposition party sweep, no less].

High-profile, fellow-traveling DUmmies like Jim Davis, Ned Lament, and (CO-4) Angie Paccione; and what the heck, let's go down the list: (FL-9) Phyllis Busansky, (FL-10) Samm Simpson, (FL-21) Frank Gonzalez, (FL-25) Michael Calderin, (MA-9) Jack Robinson, (NJ-7) Linda Stender, (NY-29) Eric Massa, and (OH-1) John Cranley -- all lost with Schiavo's support.

Schiavo just couldn't stand all this electoral 'success', so much so he took his PAC off life support and buried it just a month ago.

45 posted on 10/25/2007 6:45:52 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: BfloGuy

There is a major lesson to be learned by this example. Everyone should decide, independently of their family, what it is they want to have done in the same or similar circumstances, go to a lawyer and have it reduced to writing and then sign it - NOW before it happens. All family members and your personal physician should be advised of the legal decision. At any time their circumstances, belief, opinions, marital status, etc. changes, have the legal work redone. A person should NEVER assume that just because they are madly in love with someone and marry them that that person will “know” what is to be done. Parents do not always make the best decision on behalf of an adult child. It’s no different than determining what you want to have happen to children should either or both parents die or become incapacitated, or an elderly person determining what they want to have happen should they become unable to responsibly make appropriate decisions concerning their welfare. I know what I want done and under what circumstances and have named a person who I have empowered to make that decision. I believe these are totally family decisions but family members more often than not do not agree - particularly when making decisions of this nature.


46 posted on 10/25/2007 6:56:53 PM PDT by Grams A
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To: StAnDeliver

He ran his PAC as poorly as he attended to guardianship duties. What guardian sets out to kill their ward? Unfortunately, since him, there are more. The fortunate wards get media attention and are spared. The unlucky ones alone in a room with nobody to turn to are dead before their time.


47 posted on 10/25/2007 7:10:55 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: wagglebee

“”I want to personally talk with them about Terri’s case,” Bobby Schindler told the Boston Globe. “They need to be fully informed. There obviously exists a lot of confusion about my sister’s situation.”

Schindler told the newspaper that he plans to write each candidate a letter about Terri’s circumstances and the painful 13-day starvation and dehydration death her former husband Michael made her endure.”

What a super idea.

If one of these guys is going to be our president some day, they need to be thoroughly informed for the sake of future Terris out there.


48 posted on 10/25/2007 7:43:23 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: StAnDeliver
Petition to Impeach Greer. He was clearly breaking the law and this Petition did actually end up in Tallahassee. Over 41,000 signatures The author shows what the brainwashed refused to discover for themselves.

http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html

49 posted on 10/25/2007 7:54:36 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: Grams A

My concerns are for those who have no family. Do they have less rights under the law? It’s likely.


50 posted on 10/25/2007 7:58:45 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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