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Veto power makes lame duck relevant (Helen Thomas alert!)
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | October 26, 2007 | Helen Thomas

Posted on 10/28/2007 10:19:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The dying months of the disastrous Bush presidency are beginning to resemble the twilight of the Clinton administration.

Both presidents have had to plaintively proclaim they were still "relevant" even as their epitaphs were being written.

Both presidents belatedly looked for a solution to the perennial Israeli-Palestinian problem to put a feather in their foreign-policy caps.

On that score, President Clinton struck out big time and petulantly put all the blame on the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. Clinton supported a plan by former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak for Palestinian enclaves to be surrounded by Israeli checkpoints, making a mockery of Palestinian sovereignty. It would have been perilous for any Palestinian leader to accept that plan.

The failure of the peace talks was a blow for Clinton, who gambled on a last bid to add a Middle East triumph to his fading presidency.

President Bush is in the same boat.

Bush repeatedly brags that he is the first president to endorse a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian stalemate.

But he has done nothing except give it lip service and has been so pro-Israeli that the U.S. cannot act as an "honest broker" between the two. Meanwhile, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is frantically trying to pull together a Middle East peace conference in November.

Bush also lost some of his credentials to tout democracy in the Middle East when he immediately cut off any dealings with the beleaguered Palestinian region of Gaza after the Hamas party won an election, fair and square.

Some humanitarian aid has been restored to Gaza but the economic squeeze is still on. Bush did not enhance the credibility of his drive for democracy by choosing to ignore the results of the legitimate internationally monitored election.

If Bush wants to make a grand exit with a Middle East splash, he would do better by getting U.S. troops out of Iraq where they are continuing Bush's unprovoked war.

He also should think twice before letting conservative hawks talk him into an attack on Iran. The inflammatory drumbeat against Iran has an all-too-familiar ring that we heard in the run-up to the war on Iraq.

Vice President Dick Cheney and his cohorts are apparently the chief proponents for attacking Iran's military and nuclear facilities.

As for the relevancy of lame duck presidents, both Clinton and Bush were questioned about their relevancy at news conferences late in their presidencies, when both were suffering weakened political status.

Clinton -- who had to deal with a Republican Congress -- told reporters "the Constitution gives me relevance." He also played up his veto power to bolster his importance.

When a reporter suggested recently that Bush has become "increasingly irrelevant," Bush replied:

"On the contrary, I've never felt more engaged and more capable of helping people to recognize ... that there's a lot of unfinished business. And I'm really looking forward to the next 15 months. I'm looking forward to getting some things done for the American people."

He also noted that he still has veto power to block any legislation he doesn't like.

"This is one way to ensure that I am relevant," he said. "That's one way to ensure I'm in the process. And I intend to use the veto."

He proceeded to prove his relevancy by vetoing the expansion of children's health insurance. Sad to say, Congress upheld his veto.

Bush's poll standings remain low, but he still has the power to counter the Democrats -- and often the will of the American people.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush43; bushhaters; georgebush; helenthomas; iraq; palestine; term2; veto
Some things never change...
1 posted on 10/28/2007 10:19:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I bet she fantasized over every veto that Clinton threw down.
2 posted on 10/28/2007 10:20:57 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The dying months of the disastrous Bush presidency...

"It was a dark and stormy night..."

3 posted on 10/28/2007 10:21:13 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “twilight” and “dying months” of Helen Thomas have dragged on too long.


4 posted on 10/28/2007 10:25:17 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The President is going to be very relevant when he orders strikes on Iran.


5 posted on 10/28/2007 10:28:47 AM PDT by Perdogg (Go tarheels)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Unfortunately, the bridge that fell down was not the one that the troll, Helen Thomas, lives under. Not that I wanted her to be squashed like a bug; I just wanted her to shrivel up from the exposure to sunlight. Words fail in trying to describe adequately how reprehensible this "woman" is.

She is, however, proof of the adage that "Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes all the way to the bone." Or try this one: unlike Dorian Grey, Helen Thomas is her own portrait.

Congressman Billybob

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Here's my announcement of running for Congress in 2008.

6 posted on 10/28/2007 10:30:16 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article is posted just underneath a story about a 400 year old clam that is the oldest animal alive.

When I saw ‘Helen Thomas’in the next article, I thought there was a double post for a moment.

I apologize to Ming the Clam for confusing him with Helen Thomas.


7 posted on 10/28/2007 10:34:01 AM PDT by LostInBayport ("Anyone whose tax bill goes up feels like it's an increase." - Mass. Governor Deval Patrick, 2/28/07)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I see Helen is still living in her alternate fantasy land since the real world has so completely rejected her far leftist dogmas.

Yo Helen, the Cold War is over. Your side lost.


8 posted on 10/28/2007 10:37:14 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Pacifism is not moral. True morality requires evil be opposed, not appeased)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Helen Thomas alert!


9 posted on 10/28/2007 10:38:12 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = "Cesspool + Flavor-Straw")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The failure of the peace talks was a blow for Clinton ...”

I bet it wasn’t quite the blow that Monica was!


10 posted on 10/28/2007 10:41:29 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Congressman Billybob
"...unlike Dorian Grey, Helen Thomas is her own portrait."



LOL!...but she can be giddy as a school girl for the right grifter. ;o)
11 posted on 10/28/2007 10:43:01 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Helen, what an insight! NEVER BEFORE has a lame-duck Prez HAD THE VETO POWER! Wow, she’s still “got it.”


12 posted on 10/28/2007 10:44:34 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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13 posted on 10/28/2007 11:00:30 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Veto is about all W has left. Too bad he waited so long to every use it. But once he found out the word meant, he now treatens to veto just about everything.

Bush Threatens Veto of Student Aid Bill

Bush Threatens Veto of New Iraq Bill

Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise ...

Bush Threatens to Veto Any Bill to Stop Port Takeover

Bush threatens veto on stem cell research bill

Bush Threatens Veto of Child Health Bill

Bush Threatens Veto Oil Tax Increase

Bush threatens veto if telecoms don’t get immunity

Bush Threatens Veto of McCaskill IG Overhaul

Bush Threatens Veto Of Wiretapping Bill

Bush threatens veto of DHS appropriations bill

Bush threatens veto over U.S. ports deal

Bush Threatens Veto Against Bill That Funds District of Columbia

Bush threatens veto of gas gouging bill

House passes ambitious energy bill, Bush threatens veto

Bush Says He'll Veto Health Bill Again

Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2007 [Bush threatens veto]


[I'm not even sure these are all of bills he has threatened to veto.]
14 posted on 10/28/2007 11:42:26 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

annie nail helen

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/3/8/161214.shtml


15 posted on 10/28/2007 1:24:45 PM PDT by flat
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To: CaptainK

Helen Thomas also fantasizes that she is relevant.


16 posted on 10/28/2007 1:38:03 PM PDT by abclily
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To: abclily

I wonder if she’s had all her shots?


17 posted on 10/28/2007 1:39:29 PM PDT by baiamonte
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To: Liberty Valance

she’s a cutie patootie allright no doubt about that....almost enuff to make me forget our conservative beauties.,..ie the legendary annie coulter and the stunning laura ingraham....both of em stunners both inside and out...annie and laura the places where brains meet beauty....

but helen, here, well she has that CERTAIN SOMETHING can’t quite put my finger on it.....bwhahahaahhaa

anybody know what it is?


18 posted on 10/29/2007 10:13:35 AM PDT by flat
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