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Hillary Gets Worst Reviews Yet
Townhall.com ^ | October 31, 2007 | Amanda Carpenter

Posted on 10/31/2007 3:18:31 PM PDT by neverdem

The usual flood of editorials and blog posts after a major presidential debate were particularly harsh on Hillary Clinton this morning following Tuesday night’s Democratic debate at Drexel University.

Opinion leaders said her performance reinforced negative stereotypes that Clinton is shrill, calculating and evasive.

Here’s a round up of what some of those opinion leaders are saying:

Mark Halperin, Time Magazine - [She] fell off the tough-shrill balance beam onto the "shrill" side — with a THUD. More defensive than usual, and at times too political and too hot tempered. Borderline disastrous moment at the end when she gave an equivocal answer about drivers licenses for illegal immigrants in New York; it opened the door for her opponents to pounce by turning it into a character issue — and pounce they did. The failure of her performance was cumulative, however, so only those watching the whole debate would see how weak her evening was. If she loses the nomination, tonight will go down in history as the first step to her defeat — no fatal "Dean Scream" catastrophe, but far from her finest moment, to say the least.

Nedra Pickler, Associated Press -Gone was the Clinton who laughed off their answers and joked about how she's lucky to be getting so much attention from all these men at her age. Clinton clearly had decided she must defend herself from rivals who are right on her heels in...

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Roger Simon, Politico - In a debate against six Democratic opponents at Drexel University here Tuesday, Clinton gave the worst performance of her entire campaign. It was not just that her answer about whether illegal immigrants should be issued drivers’ licenses was at best incomprehensible and at worst misleading. It was that for two hours she dodged and weaved, parsed and stonewalled.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 10/31/2007 3:18:32 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

sad thing is, i doubt it makes a bit of difference.

is there anything that says the Anti Christ must be a man?


2 posted on 10/31/2007 3:21:30 PM PDT by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: neverdem
...negative stereotypes that Clinton is shrill, calculating and evasive.

They aren't stereotypes. They are character flaws..............

3 posted on 10/31/2007 3:22:23 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: neverdem

...for two hours she dodged and weaved, parsed and stonewalled.

***
IOW, she was Clintonian. Obama really smacked her down, IMO. I hope he keeps an eye on his cat. Did you notice how she was glaring at Hair when he was critical?


4 posted on 10/31/2007 3:23:32 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: Red Badger
Yes, but when she is finally pinned down to answer a question, she screws up big-time.

If elected POTUS (God forbid), she'll never survive a press conference..

sw

5 posted on 10/31/2007 3:27:33 PM PDT by spectre (spectre's wife)
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To: tired1

Hillary can do no wrong with her people....just as Bush can do no right with the same people.


6 posted on 10/31/2007 3:28:51 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: spectre

Remember what the FIRST Clinton administration did about the WH Press Corps when they took over in ‘93?.............


7 posted on 10/31/2007 3:29:26 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Bigg Red

Can you imagine what she must have been thinking? I’m sure there were tons of F words.


8 posted on 10/31/2007 3:30:41 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: tired1

You asked is there anything that says the Anti Christ must be a man?

To which I always respond... Is there anything that says the Anti Christ must be one person???

The Anti Christ...


9 posted on 10/31/2007 3:30:56 PM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: neverdem
Caw!!! Caw!!! Caw!!!

I am so sure I could not listen to her address this nation as our President - she sounds like an old crow out there!

10 posted on 10/31/2007 3:31:36 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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To: spectre

Well then she won’t have press conferences. If she has a press conference, she will find a way to control the participants and questions. Never question the Queen or the Pope (of global warming).


11 posted on 10/31/2007 3:33:53 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Chili Girl

She looked like a crow in that crusty black pantsuit.


12 posted on 10/31/2007 3:35:15 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Bigg Red

“...Obama really smacked her down...”

but then he made up to her .. IMO


13 posted on 10/31/2007 3:36:40 PM PDT by malia (President Bush***FreeRepublic*Rush*Beck*SandRat*FreeRepublic*Rush*Beck*SandRat)
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To: neverdem
It's too bad for her that she can't have Bill on the debate floor with her. She seems to be at her best when he is around. Fortunately, when he's not around, everyone gets to see the REAL Hillary.

Speaking of Halloween....

14 posted on 10/31/2007 3:40:30 PM PDT by BigAlPro (It's time to flush the toilet of political corruption in Washington)
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To: Chili Girl
I would need some Old Crow if she got elected.


15 posted on 10/31/2007 3:40:58 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: malia

“...Obama really smacked her down...”

but then he made up to her .. IMO

&&

Do you remember what he said that made you think that?


16 posted on 10/31/2007 3:41:22 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: Red Badger
...negative stereotypes that Clinton is shrill, calculating and evasive.
They aren't stereotypes. They are character flaws.

the truth, was showning through....the *itchs' spells weren't working last night.

17 posted on 10/31/2007 3:41:43 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: neverdem

Of course Hillary, like a true liberal, will play the “victim” card and say that everyone is “ganging up” on her ‘cause she’s a woman.


18 posted on 10/31/2007 3:41:47 PM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: spectre

If elected POTUS (God forbid), she’ll never survive a press conference..

&&&
Surely, you don’t think she’d get anything but softballs lobbed her way!


19 posted on 10/31/2007 3:42:31 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: neverdem

No third terms. The whole Bush/Clinton polarization needs to be put out to pasture. Political dynasties are for 3rd world dictatorships. Another Clinton administration would be the end of reasoned national dialogue. JMHO.


20 posted on 10/31/2007 3:43:00 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: tired1

The bible refers to him as “he” in a number of places! I don’t think you can “trick” scripture out to make Hillary into the BEAST!


21 posted on 10/31/2007 3:44:06 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Loud Mime

Re: No Wrong Hillary.
Guy on Hannity talk show today said she was qualified because she had “been around Bill for 8 years”. Also look at who is running against her. Honestly, if you were a Democrat who would you vote for? Pretty weak slate - any woman worth their salt could run over them and they wouldn’t even know what happened - IMO


22 posted on 10/31/2007 3:44:36 PM PDT by Grams A
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To: skinkinthegrass

...the *itchs’ spells weren’t working last night.

&&&
Did you see the way she was glowering at Hair. It’s a good thing he didn’t make eye contact with her, or it would have set his shiny locks on fire.


23 posted on 10/31/2007 3:44:58 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: Aria
Can you imagine what she must have been thinking?...I guess, someone was hit with an (couple of) Ashtray(s) last night.....hmmm, ashtray futures.
24 posted on 10/31/2007 3:45:43 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: mdmathis6

I don’t think you can “trick” scripture out to make Hillary into the BEAST!

***
Seriously, do you actually feel accurate referring to Hitlery as “she”?


25 posted on 10/31/2007 3:46:11 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: neverdem

26 posted on 10/31/2007 3:46:59 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Full moon.......with a comet in Perseus............


27 posted on 10/31/2007 3:48:03 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: mdmathis6

thank you for the clarification. i don’t need to trick anyone, it may be obvious.


28 posted on 10/31/2007 3:48:31 PM PDT by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: tired1

Amen—you are so there. Do you think members of our own side who decide that whichever candidate we nominate isn’t perfect enough to be worthy of their votes could make any difference?


29 posted on 10/31/2007 3:50:14 PM PDT by MHT
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To: Bigg Red

Au contraire Pierre! The press will turn on her like jackels. If it werent so damn important, it would be funny to watch.


30 posted on 10/31/2007 3:50:15 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: tired1
“is there anything that says the Anti Christ must be a man?”

If Hillary isn’t the Antichrist, she is certainly the spawn of Satan.

31 posted on 10/31/2007 3:50:30 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Bigg Red
...Did you see the way she was glowering at Hair....it would have set his shiny locks on fire....

No, Didn't see...but, I'm sure...the Silk Pony's (Breck Girl :) Wife....was there "to protect" him.

32 posted on 10/31/2007 3:51:28 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: Chili Girl

“I am so sure I could not listen to her address this nation as our President - she sounds like an old crow out there!”

There could be incoming nukes from somewhere and I still couldn’t bear to listen to the wench if she were prez.


33 posted on 10/31/2007 3:51:33 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: Bigg Red
for two hours she dodged and weaved, parsed and stonewalled.

Her big old problem...is...she is not bildabeast...now he was smooth...she was blatantly horrible...it was obvious what she was doing...

34 posted on 10/31/2007 3:55:44 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Red Badger

Not only that, but there’s no such thing as a stereotype about an individual!


35 posted on 10/31/2007 3:57:53 PM PDT by murdoog
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To: vetsvette

to be honest, i don’t believe that she can foresee the results of her convictions intentions; she is the product of the radicalization of the generation.

it is rare that one can overcome one’s ego to admit mistakes and repent.


36 posted on 10/31/2007 3:58:35 PM PDT by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: neverdem

Had this dream last night: Many (angry) chickens gathering in the pen, chattering about, while lining up to find the perfect roosting perch!


37 posted on 10/31/2007 4:00:48 PM PDT by Grateful One
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To: neverdem

I was surprised she did not have command of our language and her debating was a disaster. Not quite as bad as Barbara S; but in there.


38 posted on 10/31/2007 4:01:06 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: tired1

She is a front. That’s why she’s where she is. All she has to do is be immoral.


39 posted on 10/31/2007 4:01:57 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: neverdem

All of this will probably truly be forgotten come November 4, 2008!


40 posted on 10/31/2007 4:03:23 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: duckworth
II Thessalonians 2:3,4. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
41 posted on 10/31/2007 4:04:24 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: tired1

“ego”

Tammy Bruce nails it when she says that Hillary suffers from malignant narcissism. To her, all else pales in comparison to the importance of the personal interests of Hillary.


42 posted on 10/31/2007 4:07:47 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Red Badger
Remember what the FIRST Clinton administration did about the WH Press Corps when they took over in ‘93?.............

Yeah, they installed a door at the bottom of the steps to keep them out of the Press Secretary's office.

43 posted on 10/31/2007 4:07:57 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: murdoog

What’s so weird about the clintons, is they have done enough illegal, lying, cheating, stealing, and criminal acts during their pathetic lives that we can actually do profiling on them. And it is 100% accurate. Every time.


44 posted on 10/31/2007 4:11:48 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: spectre
If elected POTUS (God forbid), she'll never survive a press conference..

Well, certainly not the kind Bush has. But hers would be different. They would be love-ins.

45 posted on 10/31/2007 4:15:14 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = "Cesspool + Flavor-Straw")
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To: mdmathis6
The bible refers to him as “he” in a number of places! I don’t think you can “trick” scripture out to make Hillary into the BEAST!

Just a garden variety struggling demon who got some lucky breaks.

46 posted on 10/31/2007 4:17:32 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = "Cesspool + Flavor-Straw")
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To: neverdem
Well, I have about given up on Brit's Panel. They discussed Mrs. Clinton and thought she did fine and, in fact, was the grown up of the group who you'd trust on foreign policy...the only moderate hawk. They all agreed that against all those men ganging up on her, she held her own.

Now I want to know what debate they were watching...because Rush painted a completely different picture. He was on fire today. Or has Brit's Panel, too, received its marching orders.

Drive-Bys Blister Mrs. Clinton's Performance, But She Still Wins



Will Lid Blow Off Clinton, Inc.?
47 posted on 10/31/2007 4:36:16 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: neverdem

give her time. She’ll scream like a banshee. Tim Russert who is NOT, never has been and never will be a favorite of mine DID stay on hillleree last night. Give him credit for that. I guess she thinks she is above the frey and says the men are ganging up on her? Hey...she’s in the kitchen now with the big guns...if she can’t stand the heat she should vacate the kitchen. This is equal opportunity now isn’t it?


48 posted on 10/31/2007 4:40:27 PM PDT by cubreporter ( Rush has done more for this country than any other politician ever! He's the man!!!!)
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To: neverdem

Hillary!08 should be getting better at this. It’s relatively late in the campaign. It’s a big difference between electrifying and fingernails on a blackboard. You can put a saddle on a cow and ride it, but it’s still not a horse.


49 posted on 10/31/2007 4:45:34 PM PDT by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Wouldn’t that be redundant?


50 posted on 10/31/2007 4:47:12 PM PDT by purpleraine
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