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Hillary Reveals Her Inner Self
OpinionJournal.com ^ | November 2, 2007 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 11/01/2007 10:04:27 PM PDT by gpapa

The story isn't that the Democrats finally took on Hillary Clinton. Nor is it that they were gentlemanly to the point of gingerly and tentative. There was an air of "Please, somebody kill her for me so I can jump in and show high minded compassion at her plight!"

Barack Obama, with his elegance and verbal fluency really did seem like that great and famous political figure from his home state of Illinois--Adlai Sevenson, who was not at all hungry, not at all mean, and operated at a step removed from the grubby game. Mr. Obama is like someone who would write in his diaries, "I shall point out Estes Kefauver's manifold inconsistencies, then to luncheon with Arthur and Marietta."

The odd thing is it's easier to be a killer when you know exactly what you stand for, when you have a real philosophy. The philosophy becomes a platform from which you can strike without ambivalence. Mr. Obama seems born to be mild. But still, that's not the story.

Nor is it that John Edwards seems like a furry animal on a wheel, trying so hard, to the point he's getting a facial tic, and getting nowhere, failing to get his little furry paws on his prey, not knowing you have to get off the wheel to get to the prey. You have to stop the rounded, rote, bromidic phrases, and use a normal language that cannot be ignored.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; democratparty; dims; doubletalk; elections; evil; halloween; hillary; hillaryscandals; monster; nutcracker; peggynoonan; scary; trytellingthetruth; whoreofbabylon
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To: nathanbedford
Could it be these rumors of lesbian connection are generating the same reaction and for the same reason?

Are the media finding some vestigial righteousness and trying to destroy Hillary because she is a lesbian but they are too politically correct to admit it?

Hillary cannot be a martyr, she cannot be the figure of the wronged woman, if she's a lesbian in a marriage of convenience with Slick.

Are we reading and airy -fairy proxy for the lesbian charge?


41 posted on 11/02/2007 2:52:24 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: SatinDoll

You nailed Noonan. Maybe she gets paid per word. Or maybe she’s the columnist equivilent of Obama, I mean, like Obama, she uses an arsenal of harmless, elegant words when just a few pithy phrases could mortally wound Hillary. Hard to tell whether Noonan or Obama want to indict Hillary, or impress us with their vocabulary.


42 posted on 11/02/2007 2:56:17 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

It was reported that all the media knew what the LA Times was withholding.....Has Noonen let the cat out of the bag with the lesbian talk about the beast.....???


43 posted on 11/02/2007 2:56:59 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Specialists (professional consultants and the George Soros gang) spend more time writing these "debate moderator scripts" than NASA does on planning a Space Shuttle launch.

SoroSauron is behind the Giuliani candidacy...


44 posted on 11/02/2007 2:57:21 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
The only thing that matters to the pervert liberals in the media more than anything else is their “holy grail” of filth. They will do and say anything to foist their sickness on the country to the abandonment of all other things...
45 posted on 11/02/2007 3:00:15 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: samtheman
Dear Sam:

I think we have to accept that most of the electorate does not think the way we on Free Republic think. If they did there would be no blue states at all, Gore would not have taken the popular vote, and Kerry would not have come within 60,000 votes in Ohio taking the whole country.

Speaker Pelosi might be doing real estate deals-maybe she would be getting one more face lift, but if she did she would be eating lunch out of hat. Hillary Clinton would be in jail.

In a world of electoral politics you have to deal with the world as it is and not with the world as it is within our own bubble. So, in reply to your observations about lesbianism and it's potential affect on female liberal voters, I quite agree that, if anything, she would gain more votes from this demographic. I am talking about the mushy middle, the females who see themselves in terms of their relationships and not in terms of political issues. These women should put the fear of God into Hillary and her supporters and, more importantly, into the professional politicians of the Democrat party. It is these professionals, in league with the media elites, who might turn against Hillary not because they're opposed to lesbianism but because they're opposed to losing elections.

My belief is that Obama would be a stronger candidate than Hillary and we would be hard pressed to beat him. Al Gore, a committed leftist, took a majority of the American voters. John Kerry came very close to winning the electoral votes and would have won had he taken Ohio. Therefore, a liberal posture is not a fatal impediment to reaching the White House, especially when one has a fair wind blowing at one's back created by the media. If we know anything about the media we know they will blow a tsunami to put the first African- American into the White House. On the other hand, Hillary is despised by nearly 50% of the country who have declared that they are resolute against voting for her. This cuts into Reagan Democrats, and the union Democrats, and independents and, the group we are talking about, middle-class women. This is where the race ultimately gets decided unless our Republican base has been so eroded that it will just be overwhelmed.

This is where my pessimism about the election comes in. If you look at the midterm on a state-by-state basis, it is clear that we were unable to hold any one of the four states which we must have if we are to retain the White House (Missouri Ohio Florida Virginia). Since then, the war has turned to for the better but the economy is looking very, very shaky. The Democrats have shot themselves in the foot in Congress and Bush is looking better. But we have so much ground to make up and the Hill is so steep that any conservative who gets out of the bubble must be very concerned indeed.

46 posted on 11/02/2007 3:04:40 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: gpapa

Oh no, I’m going to need therapy now.Could’nt the title have been just a little different? Sheesh.


47 posted on 11/02/2007 3:19:29 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: gpapa
Nor is it that John Edwards seems like a furry animal on a wheel, trying so hard, to the point he's getting a facial tic, and getting nowhere, failing to get his little furry paws on his prey, not knowing you have to get off the wheel to get to the prey.

I know the article is about Hillary, but the imagery in this sentence is worth highlighting. And very funny.

48 posted on 11/02/2007 3:23:20 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (A liberal is someone who believes Scooter Libby should be in jail and Bill Clinton should not.)
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To: Balata

I loved that description of Obama and thought it described Stevenson to a t. Why do you object?


49 posted on 11/02/2007 3:26:16 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: nathanbedford

I don’t think so. I think the time now is for a presidential election and that changes everything.

And until men quit doing as you did, quit calling her “bitch”, she won’t be taken down. All that word does even to a conservative woman is set any woman’s teeth on edge. It muddies your fine argument with something that women instinctively hate, men who call women, any women, “bitches”. It is like the “N” word for many many women. I know there are exceptions, but I don’t like women who call women “bitches” either. It is a sisterly kind of thing.

Otherwise interesting post.


50 posted on 11/02/2007 3:31:59 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: gpapa
The problem for Mrs. Clinton is not that people sense she will raise taxes. It's that they don't think she'll raise them on the real and truly rich. The rich are her friends. They contribute to her, dine with her, have access to her. They have an army of accountants. They're protected even from her. But she can stick it to others, and in the way of modern liberalism for roughly half a century now one suspects she'll define affluence down. That she would hike taxes on people who make $150,000 a year. But those "rich"--people who make $200,000 and have two kids and a mortgage and pay local and state taxes in, say, New Jersey--they don't see themselves as rich. Because they're not. They're already carrying too much of the freight.

NAILED IT!

51 posted on 11/02/2007 3:32:29 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: nathanbedford
"My belief is that Obama would be a stronger candidate than Hillary and we would be hard pressed to beat him. Al Gore, a committed leftist, took a majority of the American voters..."

Never happen, at least not at this time in our history. When people are asked about voting for a black man or even a woman they will almost NEVER say they won't for reasons of race or in the case of Obama his name which is very M.E. sounding. People are terribly afraid to be even THOUGHT of as being even remotely racist so will not publicly say what they feel. In the voting booth, with the curtain closed and no one to know who the vote goes to, Obama gets no more then 40% of the vote and I'm being generous.

52 posted on 11/02/2007 3:34:15 AM PDT by njrep
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To: gpapa

53 posted on 11/02/2007 3:36:43 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Patton@Bastogne; Darkwolf377
Tim the Toad asked ONE follow-up semi-tough question and she COLLAPSED!!

It;s the CLASSIC BULLY STORY....Hillary is a BULLY who has intimidated and out-meaned people at every phase in her political life. Men couldn't or wouldn't stand up to her because of PC or Chivalry (be nice to the girl), and she has had her way with all concerned. One guy treated her like he would every other man and she COLLAPSED and then blamed the guys for piling on!!

The ILLEGAL fundraising chinked HER armor and the HIPPIE MUSEUM fiassco REALLY chinked her armor.....problem is she has an armor FACTORY in Clinton INC.

I'm waiting to see if OTHER moderators and reporters treat her with kid gloves AGAIN.

54 posted on 11/02/2007 3:38:51 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: nathanbedford

You make some good points and I’m going to think about them and respond later. For now, just a quick reaction to one of your points: that the leftist Al Gore got a majority of the votes.

First of all, he wasn’t perceived as being anywhere near as far-left as he actually is. He did a good job of covering that up. Obama has no such cover. Obama has no such non-left perception. Everyone perceives Obama as the far-left person that he actually is.

Secondly, the media pulled a fast one in 2000, declaring Florida for Al Gore early and erroneously, keeping many west-Florida conservatives from going to the polls, as well as many conservatives elsewhere in the nation. That early bad-call made it seem like Gore had the election locked up.

People will never fall for that trick again. I think every American now knows, go out and vote, regardless of what the hateful liars of the press tell you. (The Dems already knew that. I think the Repubs now know that too.)


55 posted on 11/02/2007 3:49:59 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: gpapa
If we could succeed in showing that a war on the "rich" and "wealthy" through tax policy is a war on our nation's employers and investors, and thus EVERYONE in the private sector becomes collateral damage, then we wouldn't need to talk about which income level gets hurt, and which does not. Such an educational thrust could be effective, if employed, if for no other reason than it has the convenient quality of being demonstrably true.

Employers and investors are the engine of our economy, and a punitive tax regime becomes the equivalent of putting dirty socks in the engine, instead of oil. The private sector is already running on one or two less cylinders, and its oil is dirty and gunk-filled even now, precisely because the "rich" (read employers and investors) have become the declared enemy in this war on the private sector.

The solution lies in exchanging, over time, a consumption tax for the current income tax. Removing disincentives to work, capital formation, and risk taking would truly "fuel inject" the economic engine, and provide prosperity for both "rich" and "poor". To allow the class-warfare-through-tax-policy-game to be played with the assumption that only those whose taxes go up get hurt, is dangerous in the extreme.

56 posted on 11/02/2007 3:54:04 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: caseinpoint
It had a picture of Bill and Hillary and the words, “Do not resuscitate”

Yeah, I've been wearing that one, and also another one which says, "Let Lying Dogs Sleep" .. with a picture of the clintons with a circle/line going thru it.

It's very effective. When people see it and finally get it, there is always a chuckle ... as if to say, aint it the truth.

57 posted on 11/02/2007 4:19:32 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: cajungirl

“I don’t like women who call women “bitches”....”

Pardon me madam, but that seems a little bitchy.


58 posted on 11/02/2007 4:23:40 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
I just hope she gets the nomination. It will only be true justice if a Republican gets to deliver the knockout punch to her presidential aspirations.

Be careful what you wish for.

No one has yet figured out an answer to "you are just afraid of strong women, waah, you're hitting a girl".

She, who is one of the worst technical candidates EVER, kicked poor Rick Lazio's ass with that message, and it hasn't failed her yet.

The only Republican who even seems slightly able to deal with this is He Who Must Not Be Named Around Here.

59 posted on 11/02/2007 4:34:26 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: Jim Noble

So she beat a weak, little-known Republican candidate in New York - whoopie!


60 posted on 11/02/2007 4:37:02 AM PDT by Cedric
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