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Mike Huckabee: a conservative with a social gospel
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 11/6/2007 | Gail Russell Chaddock

Posted on 11/06/2007 9:11:01 PM PST by dano1

Now in a race for the GOP presidential nomination, Huckabee is shaping his come-from-behind campaign on the same principle that grew the Church at Rock Creek from a few dozen people in 1996 to more than 5,000 today: Every life has value – and don't count anyone out.

"We care about individuals because of the intrinsic worth and value in every single human life," he says often on the campaign trail.

It's the central theme in his campaign on issues ranging from abortion rights, which he opposes, to healthcare for poor children, which he promoted as governor. But it's opened him to charges that he is not a "consistent conservative," because he's willing to tax and spend on issues like education and healthcare to meet those needs.

Until recently, Huckabee has been consigned to a second tier by most political handicappers – and is typically given less airtime in debates than the front-runners. But he's winning converts, especially among so-called values voters, by his ease and agility on the stump.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


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1 posted on 11/06/2007 9:11:02 PM PST by dano1
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To: dano1
" Every life has value – and don't count anyone out. "

Especially the illegal alien Tyson chicken plucker types!

2 posted on 11/06/2007 9:17:09 PM PST by matthew fuller (Crop-circles, killer rabbits and UFO'S are caused by GLOBAL WARMING!)
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To: dano1
I read the entire article. This guy really sounds like a Democrat. A pro-life Democrat but a Democrat none the less.
3 posted on 11/06/2007 9:22:58 PM PST by Prokopton
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"One of (Huckabee's) first moves as governor was to review state laws, rules, and practices with an eye to their impact on families. He signed legislation to double the child-care tax credit, protect the rights of parents to home-school their children, eliminate the marriage penalty in the tax code, outlaw same-sex marriage, and require parental consent for abortion. He also launched a program to provide health insurance to more than 70,000 children, ARKids First."
4 posted on 11/06/2007 9:33:46 PM PST by dano1
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To: dano1

Well that was an eye-catcher. FWIW the term “Social Gospel” does not appear anywhere in the article except the title. I wonder if the author even has any idea what the Social Gospel movement was.


5 posted on 11/06/2007 9:37:42 PM PST by antinomian (Show me a robber baron and I'll show you a pocket full of senators.)
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To: matthew fuller
Immigration Facts

It has been reported that Mike Huckabee supported benefits for illegals immigrants while he was Governor of Arkansas.

Governor Huckabee never supported benefits for illegal immigrants. In Arkansas, illegal immigrants do not receive welfare benefits or food stamps. Governor Huckabee has always, and will always be supportive of the laws and regulations of the country.

It has also been said that Mike Huckabee was in favor of providing college scholarships for illegal immigrants while he was Governor.

The governor only supported the measure that applied to those who met the academic qualifications and applied for legal citizenship. The measure didn't pass. Governor Huckabee stressed that any student would simply be treated as any other graduate of an Arkansas High School, and not given any special consideration.

Critics say that Governor Huckabee's motives behind opening a Mexican consulate office in Little Rock was to court illegals to come work in Arkansas.

The Mexican consulate provided Arkansas businesses with access to Mexico and opportunities to expand their markets, and would help further ensure that immigrants from Mexico are legal and better able to secure legal documentation. At the same time, the office would open up opportunities for Mexican investors to invest money with Arkansas partners, which would help create more jobs in the state.

Source: Huckabee website, Truth Squad: Immigration Facts, November 02, 2007

6 posted on 11/06/2007 9:39:17 PM PST by dano1
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"One of (Huckabee's) first moves as governor was to review state laws, rules, and practices with an eye to their impact on families. He signed legislation to double the child-care tax credit, protect the rights of parents to home-school their children, eliminate the marriage penalty in the tax code, outlaw same-sex marriage, and require parental consent for abortion. He also launched a program to provide health insurance to more than 70,000 children, ARKids First."

This is the rest of the story:

"He's got a preacher's mentality. He sees all these needs and he thinks it's the role of the federal government to meet them,"

7 posted on 11/06/2007 9:40:26 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: dano1; Politicalmom; Sturm Ruger; 2ndDivisionVet; pissant
Mike Huckabee: a conservative big-government, tax-raising, illegal alien-coddling liberal to rival Ruity and RiNold with a socialgospelist agenda wrapped up in a facade of phony bible-thumping conservatism.

I fixed the title for you. The rest of the article can only be helped by using it for toilet paper, as a birdcage liner, or to clean fish on.

FREDHEADS AND DUNCANISTAS UNITE! DESTROY THE RINO FRAUD HUCKABEE!

8 posted on 11/06/2007 9:46:24 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: Prokopton
"This is the rest of the story"

Those interested should read the whole article which contains more about Huckabee. The Christian Science Monitor is one of those papers from which we aren't able to post entire articles. However I thought the article gave a fairly balanced view of Huckable. I agree with you, (I think), that certainly Huckabee has some "compassionate conservative" leanings, although IMHO he is far from a Democrat.

Huckabee is certainly getting a lot of free media lately. This article really seemed like Huckabee 101 for the Christian Science Monitor readers.

9 posted on 11/06/2007 9:53:29 PM PST by dano1
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To: dano1
He's full of CRAP. HERE is what he said at the LULAC convention:


Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at LULAC convention Thursday, Jun 30, 2005

By Wesley Brown
Arkansas News Bureau
LITTLE ROCK - In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike Huckabee told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seeking a better way of life.

"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you," Huckabee said, citing the Golden Rule. "I have tried to govern that way and it stands to reason that I really do believe that what made this great country so great and so unique is that it has always been a place for people to run to - and not run from.

"I would hope that no matter who we are, or where we are from, that America should always be a place that opens its arms, opens it heart, opens its spirit to people who come because they want the best for their families ...," Huckabee said as the largely Hispanic audience gave him a standing ovation.

Huckabee was the keynote speaker, along with Tyson Foods Inc. Chairman and CEO John Tyson, at a noon luncheon of the League of United Latin American Citizens, which is holding its 76th annual convention in Little Rock.

About 10,000 political, community and business leaders, along with exhibitors and speakers are in Little Rock attending the convention at the Statehouse Convention Center. The convention started Monday and runs through Saturday.

Although he never actually talked about the U.S. or Arkansas immigration policy, Huckabee made it very clear where he stood on the issue. In his opening remarks, he said the nation will need to address the concerns of the Hispanic community because of its growing influence and population base.

"Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority," Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter.

He told the LULAC delegates that their presence in the state's capital city was very important because Arkansas has one of the fastest growing Hispanic populations in the nation.

"Your gathering is so very significant for our state," Huckabee said. "We are delighted to have you."

Despite several light moments, Huckabee did not stray away from several controversial issues that made him a target of criticism during the recently ended 85th General Assembly. He said Arkansas needs to make the transition from a traditional Southern state to one that recognizes and cherishes diversity "in culture, in language and in population."

"This is an issue that is going to require extraordinary efforts on both sides of the border, particularly those coming from Mexico," Huckabee said of verifying the status of illegal aliens. "But I am confident that our government will recognize that we should accommodate people who wish to provide the best opportunities for their families (and) employers so that we can make sure our economy has the necessary work force."

During the legislation session, Huckabee criticized an immigration bill by Republican senators Jim Holt of Springdale and Denny Altes of Fort Smith as un-Christian, un-American, irresponsible and anti-life.

Senate Bill 206, which died in the Senate, would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and also force state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally. Holt, R-Springdale, replied later to Huckabee's comments that Christian charity does not include turning a blind eye to lawbreaking.

The Republican governor, who many believe will run for president in 2008, also backed legislation that would have opened the door for illegal immigrants in Arkansas to receive college scholarships.

House Bill 1525 by Rep. Joyce Elliott, D-Little Rock, was approved by the House but eventually failed in the Senate. Huckabee reiterated Wednesday that he believes every child, regardless of their parent's immigration status, should have an opportunity to receive an education in the U.S.

"I ... believe that an education for every child is the most important single factor to give everyone to be their very best," he said.

In one humorous moment, Huckabee sounded very much like a presidential candidate when he recalled his educational upbringing in Hope and reminded the crowd that another famous Arkansas governor and former president grew up in the small southwest Arkansas town.

"I too still believe in a place call Hope," Huckabee said, mimicking former President Clinton's famous acceptance speech at the 1992 Democratic National Convention.

Before Huckabee spoke, John Tyson thanked the Hispanic community for standing by the Springdale-based food giant during the federal government's investigation of the company a few years ago. The U.S. Justice Department investigation alleged that Tyson helped to smuggle illegal aliens into the U.S. and employed them at various chicken-processing plants across the Southeast.

After a seven-week trial, Tyson and several managers of poultry processing plants were acquitted in March 2003 of those charges.

"At the time, it was a very difficult and very tough time for our company," Tyson said. "Thank you LULAC for standing by us."

Tyson also credited LULAC leaders for pushing the company to add Hispanics to the Tyson board and promote more Latinos to upper management and executive positions.

He also said in that last 15 years, the number of Hispanics that work for the Arkansas company has increased significantly.

"I am proud to tell you that more than 40,000 of our workers are Latinos," Tyson said of the company's 114,000 employees. "We are learning, growing and benefiting from that diversity."


Want more? Here ya go:

He has compared illegal aliens to slaves brought here in chains from Africa, saying, "I think frankly the Lord is giving us a second chance to do better than we did before."

Toward that end, when an Arkansas legislator introduced a bill that would prevent illegal aliens from voting and receiving state benefits, Huckabee denounced the bill, saying it would rile up "those who are racist and bigots."

He also made the insane point that companies like Toyota would not invest in Arkansas if the state didn't allow non-citizens to vote because it would "send the message that, essentially, 'If you don't look like us, talk like us and speak like us, we don't want you.'


Anybody who compares Africans brought here against their will as slaves to illegal aliens sneaking over the border is a despicable piece of scum. The charlatan fraud Hucakabee can kiss my ass, and promptly FOAD immediately afterward. He is the worst RINO in the race.

10 posted on 11/06/2007 9:58:26 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: antinomian
Thanks for pointing out the title's similarity to the social gospel movement. Actually I hadn't heard this term before, although I was aware of the settlement house movement.

Here is a link to the wikipedia article on the Social Gospel Movement

11 posted on 11/06/2007 10:02:16 PM PST by dano1
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To: lesser_satan
News Release: Governor Mike Huckabee Launches Arkansas GOP Leadership Team

November 06, 2007

Little Rock, AR ˆ Former Arkansas Governor and Presidential Candidate Mike Huckabee announced the launch of his Arkansas GOP Leadership team today ˆ a group that includes a growing list of current and former federal and state Republican officials from the Natural State.

"Republicans in Arkansas have a long track record of taking on difficult tasks, overcoming tremendous challenges and winning battles that no one thought we could win," Huckabee said. "Despite being in a mostly Democrat state, we had great success in cutting taxes, passing pro-life legislation, fighting for the family, improving education and highways and making government more efficient."

"I have known Governor Huckabee for many years, and at one time, I served as his Chief Legal Counsel," former U.S. Attorney Bud Cummins said. "He is a true leader, who makes firm, informed decisions based on simple standards of right and wrong and what is best for the citizens who elected him. He owns his decisions and doesn't need to take a poll before deciding to do what's right. He has been so successful with his straightforward approach that it makes you wonder why more of these people don't try it."

"The two main reasons I support Gov. Huckabee for President are the fact that he has always been pro-life ˆ and he has more than 10 years of executive experience," former Cong. Jay Dickey said. "Gov. Huckabee far outdistances himself from the other candidates by his outstanding moral values and conservative convictions."

"For the past 14 years, I have watched Mike Huckabee lead our state," former U.S. Rep. Asa Hutchinson said. "He fought the Democrat machine in Arkansas and brought honor and dignity to our highest office. He has campaigned long and hard for our Republican candidates to help build a better Arkansas ."

"I had the privilege of serving for eight years in the legislature during the Huckabee administration," Sen. Shawn Womack said. "Anyone who saw his leadership during the Hurricane Katrina relief effort had to be impressed by the way he was able to organize the resources of the state to provide relief and comfort to the tens of thousands of evacuees."

"My experience with Gov. Huckabee that of a man who was thoughtful and well reasoned in his decisions," Former Rep. Doug Matayo said. " Arkansas is much better off because Mike Huckabee was our Governor. He is the best choice for president and I completely support his candidacy."

The following is a list of those who have signed on as members of Huckabee's Arkansas GOP Leadership Team:

§ Bud Cummins ˆ Former U.S. Attorney

§ John Paul Hammerschmidt ˆ Former U.S. Congressman

§ Asa Hutchinson ˆ Former U.S. Congressman

§ Tim Hutchinson ˆ Former U.S. Senator

§ Jay Dickey ˆ Former U.S. Congressman

§ Betty Dickey ˆ Former Chief Justice of Ark. Supreme Court

§ John Boozman ˆ U.S. Congressman

§ Dennis Milligan ˆ Arkansas Republican Party Chairman

§ Gay White ˆ Former First Lady of Arkansas

Lisenne Rockefeller ˆ Widow of the Late Lt. Governor Win Rockefeller

Jim Burnett ˆ Republican National Committeeman & Former NTSB Chairman

Reta Hamilton ˆ Republican National Committeewoman

Phyllis Kincannon ˆ Arkansas Republican Party Activist

Prissy Hickerson ˆ Former Arkansas HighwayCommissioner

Doyle Webb ˆ Former State Senator

Barbara Webb ˆ Former Saline County Prosecutor

Phil Wyrick ˆ Former State Senator

Carolyn Pollan ˆ Former State Representative

Gilbert Baker ˆ State Senator

Sharon Trusty ˆ State Senator

Denny Altes ˆ State Senator

Bill Pritchard ˆ State Senator

Michael Lamoureux ˆState Representative and House Minority Leader

Mark Martin ˆ State Representative

Jim Medley ˆ State Representative

Frank Glidewell ˆ State Representative

Bryan King ˆ State Representative

Beverly Pyle ˆ State Representative

Rick Green ˆSate Representative

Mary Beth Green ˆ Former State Representative

David Haak ˆ Former State Representative

Doug Matayo ˆ Former State Representative

Hoyt Johnson ˆ Former State Representative Candidate

Andy Mayberry ˆ Former U.S. Representative Candidate

Joyce Campbell ˆ Former State Rep. Candidate

Chee Chee Tamburo ˆ Former State Rep. Candidate

Wayne Bowen ˆ Justice of the Peace

Carol Lester ˆ Arkansas County Chairman

Mark Dye ˆ Scott County GOP Chairman

Ladon Copelin ˆ GOP Party Activist

Bernard Mize ˆ Polk County Chair

Billie Sue Hoggard ˆ Former State Representative Candidate

"I'm proud to have these fellow Republicans on my team," Huckabee said. "Their support, combined with the growing momentum of the campaign, will give us what we need for a strong showing in Iowa and the early primary states."

12 posted on 11/06/2007 10:10:15 PM PST by dano1
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To: All

Taxes
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Is Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee a Pro-Growth, Economic Conservative?

The Club for Growth is committed to lower taxes across the board. Lower taxes on work, savings, and investments lead to greater levels of these activities, thus encouraging greater economic growth.

Governor Huckabee touts himself as an economic conservative, writing in his biography that he “pushed through the Arkansas legislature the first major, broad-based tax cuts in state history” and “led efforts to establish a Property Taxpayers’ Bill of Rights” early on as governor (Arkansas Times 09/22/05), but he only offers a small piece of the picture.

It is true that Governor Huckabee fought for an $80 million tax cut package in 1997 that was passed by the Arkansas legislature (Cato Policy
Analysis No. 315, 09/03/98); cut the state capital gains tax in 1999 (The Commercial Appeal 02/29/99); and passed the Property Taxpayers’ Bill of Rights in the same year, limiting the increase in property taxes to 10% a year for individuals and 5% per taxing unit (AP 03/16/99). However, his record over the rest of his ten-year tenure tells a starkly different story.

Immediately upon taking office, Governor Huckabee signed a sales tax hike in 1996 to fund the Games and Fishing Commission and the Department of Parks and Tourism (Cato Policy Analysis No. 315, 09/03/98).

He supported an internet sales tax in 2001 (Americans for Tax Reform 01/07/07).

He publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine in 2002 (Arkansas News Bureau 08/30/02).

He signed bills raising taxes on gasoline (1999), cigarettes (2003) (Americans for Tax Reform 01/07/07), and a $5.25 per day bed-tax on private nursing home patients in 2001 (Arkansas New Bureau 03/01/01).

He proposed another sales take hike in 2002 to fund education improvements (Arkansas News Bureau 12/05/02).

He opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003 (Arkansas News Bureau 11/21/03).

In 2004, he allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law (The Gurdon Times 03/02/04).

By the end of his ten-year tenure, Governor Huckabee was responsible for a 37% higher sales tax in Arkansas, 16% higher motor fuel taxes, and 103% higher cigarette taxes according to Americans for Tax Reform (01/07/07), garnering a lifetime grade of D from the free-market Cato Institute. During Huckabee’s tenure as governor, the average Arkansan’s tax burden increased 47 percent, according to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.

While he is on record supporting making the Bush tax cuts permanent, he joined Democrats in criticizing the Republican Party for tilting its tax policies “toward the people at the top end of the economic scale” (Washington Examiner 09/13/06), even though objective evidence demonstrates that the Bush tax cuts have actually shifted the tax burden to higher income taxpayers.

Finally, Governor Huckabee opposed further tax cuts at a 2005 gathering of Iowa conservatives (AP 09/17/05). On January 28, 2007, Governor Huckabee refused to pledge not to raise taxes if elected President, first on Meet the Press and then at the National Review Conservative Summit. The evidence suggests that his commitment to protecting taxpayers evidenced in his early gubernatorial years may be a thing of the past.

Spending

The Club for Growth is committed to reducing government spending. Less spending enhances economic growth by enabling lower taxes and diminishing the economically inefficient political allocation of resources.

Under Governor Huckabee’s watch, state spending increased a whopping 65.3% from 1996 to 2004, three times the rate of inflation (Americans for Tax Reform 01/07/07).

The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure (Arkansas Leader 04/15/06), and the state’s general obligation debt shot up by almost $1 billion, according to Americans for Tax Reform.

The massive increase in government spending is due in part to the number of new programs and expansion of already existing programs initiated by Governor Huckabee, including ARKids First, a multimillion-dollar government program to provide health coverage for thousands
of Arkansas’ children (Arkansas News Bureau 04/13/06).

These large increases in government borrowing and spending significantly impede economic growth.

http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/01/a_report_on_mike_huckabees_fis.php

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Immigration
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Fact #1 As Governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee denounced an immigration bill (Arkansas Senate Bill 206) that “would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and would have required state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally.”

(Doug Thompson, “Immigration Bill un-christian..governor says”Arkansas News Bureau 1/28/05)

Fact #2. As Governor, Mike Huckabee offered a proposal to give state funded scholarships and state benefits to illegal aliens.

(Laura Kellams, “Huckabee Plan would give aid to illegal aliens” Arkansas Democrat Gazette 1/12/2005)

Fact #3. Governor Huckabee supported a Bush-backed immigration plan that provides a path to citizenship for some illegal aliens.

(CNN 2008 Election Center, http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/candidates/mike.huckabee.html)

Fact #4. Governor Huckabee refuses to sign the “No Amnesty Pledge”.

The Governor is suffering from what is called “amnesty amnesia”. It is a contagious ailment spreading rapidly through the ranks of the Republican presidential candidates.

Watch Huckabee admit to selling out our citizenship to illegal aliens. He thinks it’s not amnesty, but illegal aliens still get the grand prize: citizenship.

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January 28, 2005 AR Gov. Mike Huckabee goes on the attack From this:

[AR] Gov. Mike Huckabee on Thursday heaped criticism upon immigration legislation in the Arkansas Legislature, describing it as “inflammatory . . . race-baiting and demagoguery.”

He also challenged the Christian values of its main sponsor.

Huckabee said the bill, seeking to forbid public assistance and voting rights to undocumented immigrants, “inflames those who are racist and bigots and makes them think there’s a real problem. But there’s not...”

...He singled out [Republican Sens. Jim Holt, one of the bill’s sponsors], who often talks of his strong Christian beliefs, saying, “I drink a different kind of Jesus juice. My faith says don’t make false accusations against somebody.

“In the Bible, it’s called don’t bear false witness.”

In response, Holt said he was hurt by the governor’s questioning his faith.

“I just want to uphold the law and protect the benefits that apply to citizens,” Holt said.

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A lingering controversy over the role former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee played in establishing a Mexican consulate office in Little Rock financed by taxpayers and local businesses continues to follow the Republican presidential candidate’s campaign, even as he enjoys a surge in polls.

Critics in Arkansas contend Huckabee worked with some of the state’s most prominent and politically powerful businesses to draw illegal immigrants to the state to accept low-paying jobs.

Space in an Arkansas government facility was leased for $1 a year to the Mexican government to establish the Mexican consulate until a permanent Mexican consulate facility could be built, at the expense of Arkansas citizens and corporations.

“We wanted people to come to Arkansas and get the proper paper work and do things with a work permit and a visa. It’s so much easier to do that if you have a consulate where people can go to get proper documentation, rather than just accommodating people illegally.” -Huckabee

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Global Warming
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Former Arkansas governor, Mike Huckabee, said he supports a mandatory cap-and-trade system to cut US greenhouse gas emissions, becoming the second Republican presidential candidate to call for a carbon market to address climate change.

*****

Nanny-stater
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Supports national smoking ban.

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Crime
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In his book From Hope to Higher Ground, he wrote that Three Strikes was an overraction to the permissiveness of the ‘70s:

“In the 1990s, the pendulum swung harshly back in the opposite direction and very popular policies such as “three strikes and you’re out” and “no parole provisions” were adopted.

Being tough on crime is certainly more popular than being soft, but America needs to be careful that in our attempt to stoutly enforce our laws and protect our citizens, we do not end up with a system that is based more on revenge than restoration. A revenge-based criminal justice system seeks to measure out as harsh a judgement as is possible so as to satisfy the natural inclination to get even.”

*

Huckabee’s poor judgement freed a convicted rapist from prison despite a warning from his victim that he would repeat his crime if turned loose. Soft-hearted Mike ignored the advice and persuaded the parole board to let the dangerous criminal out of prison. Less than a year later, the violent predator sexually assaulted another woman and killed her.’

*****

Huckabee and Ethics
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http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2007/10/29/mike-huckabee-and-ethics.html

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Betsy Hagan, Arkansas director of the conservative Eagle Forum and a key backer of his early runs for office, was once “his No. 1 fan.” She was bitterly disappointed with his record. “He was pro-life and pro-gun, but otherwise a liberal,” she says. “Just like Bill Clinton he will charm you, but don’t be surprised if he takes a completely different turn in office.”

Phyllis Schlafly, president of the national Eagle Forum, is even more blunt. “He destroyed the conservative movement in Arkansas, and left the Republican Party a shambles,” she says. “Yet some of the same evangelicals who sold us on George W. Bush as a ‘compassionate conservative’ are now trying to sell us on Mike Huckabee.”


13 posted on 11/06/2007 10:14:33 PM PST by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: dano1

Mike Huckabee. The Socialist From Arkansas. http://www.cofcc.org/?p=811

Mike Huckabee disses Americans, Mexicans, promotes illegal immigration
http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/005609.html

Christians Need To Beware Of Mike Huckabee
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071102.html

While Gov. of Arkansas, Huckabee was AGAINST proving citizenship in order to register to vote. He called those who were in favor of this “racists”...
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050218/news_lz1e18perkins.html

Huckabee fought hard to kill an Arkansas bill which would have cut off social services for illegal aliens. Huckabee called the bill, “anti-Christian” and “un-American”...
http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/01/28/News/316347.html

Huckabee supported in-state tuition for illegal aliens...
http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/03/11/News/318458.html


14 posted on 11/06/2007 10:28:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Politicalmom
I visited the website of Phyllis Schlafly, president of the national Eagle Forum, and Betsy Hagan, Arkansas director of the conservative Eagle Forum, which can be found at this here:

http://www.eagleforum.org/misc/bio.html

Huckabee detractors are constantly quoting these two. After looking at their website, I can't for the life of me understand why their opinion matters more than the long list of duely elected Arkansas Republicans who are listed above.

Face it, Shlafly and Hagan are just two ladies who don't happen to like Huckabee.

15 posted on 11/06/2007 10:29:58 PM PST by dano1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From "Huckabee Attacks Unfounded", posting on RedState by radicalconservative Where does Huckabee really stand on the issue of illegal immigration? At first glance of all the chatter, some of the news stories, and the editorials out there floating around, one would believe that Huckabee is, not only soft on illegal immigration, but actually, farther to the left of the issue than our current President. After reading all of the stories out there and listening to the facts in the case against Huckabee, I was beginning to have some serious doubts about the sincerity of this candidate myself, who is admittedly a strong Huckabee supporter.

However, upon doing a little research on this particular issue I discovered that, as usual, there is more than one side to the story. Evidently, the truth of the matter goes a little more like this: Huckabee opposes illegal immigration, supports sealing the border, and opposes amnesty. In a perfect world that would be enough, but this is no perfect world as we all know. The fact of the matter is that there are millions of illegals in this country already, and there is a constant flow of them across our borders each and every day. Another fact, Huckabee supports the deportation of illegal immigrants, but he believes that the process should be a better one.

Case in point is the 119 illegals deported in an Arkansas raid of a plant in 2005, in which officials, without having properly done their homework, proceeded to deport the illegals leaving their children behind here in the states to be a burden to our already overloaded system.

Also, according to the Arkansas State Constitution, children of all ages, whether legal or illegal are entitled to an education. Huckabee following the logic of the state's Constitution, supported allowing children of the illegals to attend Arkansas colleges at in-state rates. Bear in mind these are not individuals who came here illegally, but rather the offspring of those individuals. Holding said offspring responsible for the sins of the parents is like holding anyone else responsible for some crime committed by their forefathers. This is a preposterous notion, a dangerous road, and completely inconsistent with the ideology of compassionate conservatism.

Now, before anyone goes hysterical here, let me point out that we are not suggesting that illegals, who are defiantly in violation of the law, be given any form of amnesty, nor is there any promotion of the idea of an open border here. However, as in any crime or act of wrongdoing their are always innocents involved who may become collateral damage. Let's be clear there should be a secure border between the U.S. and its bordering nations, there should be no amnesty, and there should always be consequences for breaking the law, but we must remember to follow the ideology of compassionate conservatism as well. After all our system is a system of checks and balances, and we must not forget that there are two sides to the scales of justice. These are the principles that guide Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee. These are the principles that should guide every American.

Source can be found at http://mikehuckabeepresident2008.blogspot.com/2005/08/msm-huckabee-right-on-illegal.html

http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2005/08/13/opinion/18editorial.txt

And from Byron York at National Review Online:

"On immigration , Huckabee is a strong advocate of a fence across the entire U.S.–Mexico border. While Congress debates guest-worker programs, Huckabee tells me, the most important problem is being ignored. “Seal the border,” he says. “Until you do that, you don’t have any control over how many people are coming in, who they are, and where they’re going.” At the same time, Huckabee has taken criticism for his proposal, as governor, to offer Arkansas in-state tuition to illegal aliens and their children. “I have always said you don’t punish a child for the crime of a parent,” Huckabee tells me. “Frankly, it’s in our best interest to try to get that child on to a higher level of education.”

16 posted on 11/06/2007 10:37:55 PM PST by dano1
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To: dano1
Huckabee lost my vote when he called Arkansas Senate Bill 206, requiring proof of citizenship for voting, "inflammatory... race-baiting and demagoguery."

Arkansas Democrat Gazette
17 posted on 11/06/2007 11:36:26 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
"Huckabee lost my vote when he called Arkansas Senate Bill 206, requiring proof of citizenship for voting, "inflammatory... race-baiting and demagoguery."

I googled Senate Bill 206, which you refer to. It appears that this bill would have made it a crime for a medical professional in Arkansas to provide life-saving care to an illegal immigrant who had been in an accident. If this is the case, then good for Governor Huckabee in opposing it!

IMHO, illegal immigration is a serious problem which must be dealt with. (Huckabee is strongly anti-illegal immigration, as shown by Post 6 above.)

Still, illegal immigrants are people and it would be inhuman of us to deny medical care to one of them who had been in an accident and was at risk of dying. So, I don't see your point.

I'll paste the information I found about Huckabee's opposition to this Arkansas senate bill below.

18 posted on 11/07/2007 5:41:43 AM PST by dano1
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To: dano1

Mike Huckabee - Hispanderer and accessory to murder.


19 posted on 11/07/2007 5:46:48 AM PST by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
The following is the information I found with Google.

dano1

Title: Mike Huckabee clarifies stance on illegal immigration [Email]
Source: Mike Huckabee
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.net
Published: Aug 4, 2007
Author: Mike Huckabee
Post Date: 2007-08-04 12:01:28 by inboxnews

Dear [InboxNews],

I would like to take a moment to clarify a few things my opponent said about me that are misleading and untrue.

You sent us a link to an article he posted regarding my record. In that article he said I denounced Senate Bill 206 which "would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and would have required state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally." This is true, but I would have gladly supported a different Bill with the same requirements listed above. The reason I opposed Bill 206, and called it "un-Christian" is because it prohibited emergency rooms from performing life-saving medical procedures if a patient could not prove their legal status. I think it is abhorrent to let anyone, regardless of legal status, die on the steps of an American hospital because the doctors would face prosecution for treating someone if they were here illegally. If Tancredo thinks that sounds just, I don't think any sane American would want him as President .

The article also said I supported a Bill making state scholarships available to students who were here illegally. That is true, but I only proposed making those scholarships available to students who had graduated from AR schools and met all other requirements and who, after turning 18, had applied for and were being considered for citizenship. There were too many children of immigrants, both legal and illegal, who were not registered as citizens and who worked hard to graduate from high school with good grades an had absolutely no opportunities. I do not believe in punishing children for their parents mistakes. The parents were the ones who brought their children here illegally, they had no choice in the matter. Can you imagine growing up in the US, attending our schools, and graduating with 4.0 average, only to be told you could not go to college, and in fact had to return to a country where you knew no one?

Finally, the article quoted CNN saying I supported Bush's immigration bill. I don't know where that quote came from or if it was ever even published anywhere except Tancredo's site, but I opposed the recent immigration bill from the start.

I didn't sign the "No Amnesty" pledge because it was a silly piece of campaign propaganda cooked up by Tancredo. Candidates don't make pledges for each other to sign, and he knows that. I am sorry that he sank to that level of attention-grabbing nonsense.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. I hope you will always review any information from any political campaign very carefully.

Sincerely,

Mike Huckabee

20 posted on 11/07/2007 5:56:01 AM PST by dano1
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