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Novak: Fred Thompson's Stunning Error
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | Nov. 8, 2008 | Robert Novak

Posted on 11/08/2007 12:03:44 PM PST by coca-cola kid

Fred Thompson was well into a prolonged dialogue about abortion with interviewer Tim Russert on NBC's ''Meet the Press'' on Sunday when he said something stunning for social conservatives: ''I do not think it is a wise thing to criminalize young girls and perhaps their parents as aiders and abettors.'' He went further: ''You can't have a [federal] law'' that ''would take young, young girls . . . and say, basically, we're going to put them in jail.''

Those comments sent e-mails flying across the country reflecting astonishment and rage by pro-life Republicans. No anti-abortion legislation ever has proposed criminal penalties against women having abortions, much less their parents. Jailing women is a spurious issue raised by abortion rights activists.

Thompson's comments revealed astounding lack of sensitivity about the abortion issue. Whether the candidate blurted out what he said or planned it, it reflects failure to realize how much his chances for the presidential nomination depend on social conservatives.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fredthompson; novak; prolife; romney; thompson
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"Jailing women is a spurious issue raised by abortion rights activists."
1 posted on 11/08/2007 12:03:44 PM PST by coca-cola kid
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To: coca-cola kid
was putting girls in prison over abortions ever really on the table?

doctor's doing dozens/day maybe, but not the girls themselves.

2 posted on 11/08/2007 12:05:55 PM PST by thefactor
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To: coca-cola kid

Hmmm, until now, Novak was pushing the same argument.


3 posted on 11/08/2007 12:07:13 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: coca-cola kid

I think Fred was responding in a manner that opposes the radical side of the pro-life activists who may have suggested jail. He was saying that you cannot go to the extreme with any federal laws. At least that’s how I took it.


4 posted on 11/08/2007 12:07:43 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: coca-cola kid

If you criminalize something, you must jail those that break the law.

I agree with FT that I do not want my wife or daughters criminalize.


5 posted on 11/08/2007 12:08:04 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: coca-cola kid

I see no error. I agree with what Thompson said.


6 posted on 11/08/2007 12:08:39 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: edcoil

A law that punishes a person performing the abortion is neutral to the woman on which the abortion was performed.

Unless she does it herself...


7 posted on 11/08/2007 12:10:01 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: coca-cola kid
Yes it is. It is the bogey man use by pro choice advocates to scare people into NOT supporting a pro life stance.

America does not want to jail its mothers and daughters, and they know that.

Such a stance is best left alone until AFTER abortion has been made illegal, not before.

FDT knows this, sadly many who are also on the right side of the issue over all do not.

This is not about right and wrong at this point. It is about political reality and saving lives.

And because of stubbornness and lack of understanding political tactics, we are losing...

8 posted on 11/08/2007 12:10:31 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: coca-cola kid

I’m pro-life. Thompson’s view that we should get strict constructionist judges, that Roe is bad law, and we should go back to the pre-Roe status quo . . . is good enough for me.

That said. Go Hunter. Breakout . . . that’s what I want.


9 posted on 11/08/2007 12:11:13 PM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: coca-cola kid

Robert Novak,

Another old guard soldier groping for a kill shot on Thompson.

They all lose.


10 posted on 11/08/2007 12:11:17 PM PST by Shermy ("A rising tide lifts all boats" ...but lowers those on the other side of the ocean.)
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To: coca-cola kid
There is a constant laborious effort to do Thompson in. I watched the program and I am almost certain Thompson was responding to questions based on his past statements, and it may have been in that context and in the context of Russert's question.

Further, this article is convoluted. Those opposing abortion rights often make clear (as Thompson did ) that they would not criminalize the mother's behavior. Further, abortion rights activists OFTEN accuse pro lifers of a plan to do just that.

Thompson's answer made perfect sense and was rather run of the mill. I feel very bad about the constant effort to savage everything he says.

11 posted on 11/08/2007 12:11:18 PM PST by Williams
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To: RobRoy

I also don’t what to criminalize our health care system either.


12 posted on 11/08/2007 12:11:41 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: coca-cola kid; Admin Moderator

Slightly different title, exact same article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922663/posts


13 posted on 11/08/2007 12:12:06 PM PST by Petronski ("Willard, you can’t buy South Carolina. You can’t even rent it.”)
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To: truthluva

An analogy: murder is a state offense, unless federal blah blah. Why should the age of the victim federalize the crime?

We have far too much federal intrusion into state and personal issues. Conservatives should not run roughshod over the Constitution just because we stand on high moral ground.


14 posted on 11/08/2007 12:12:21 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: RobRoy

This is like what, the third anti-Fred column Novak has done? Why does he dislike Fred? I saw him walking down the srteet on my way to the bank (I work in DC) and was tempted to ask him about it.


15 posted on 11/08/2007 12:12:52 PM PST by M38
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To: M38

You should.


16 posted on 11/08/2007 12:13:39 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: coca-cola kid
Novak is a Ron Paul supporter. 'Nuff said.
17 posted on 11/08/2007 12:13:48 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: coca-cola kid
Thompson's comments revealed astounding lack of sensitivity about the abortion issue. ..it reflects failure to realize how much his chances for the presidential nomination depend on social conservatives.

The poor man's Bob Dole made a boo-boo. Too many years in Hollywood, perhaps? .... The guy's swimming like his pockets are filled with rocks.

18 posted on 11/08/2007 12:13:51 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

I don’t disagree.


19 posted on 11/08/2007 12:14:01 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: coca-cola kid
I would like to see girls, their parents, women, and most certainly abortionists in prison for a long time.
20 posted on 11/08/2007 12:14:04 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture ™)
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