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Everyone around the World says... "Socialism WORKS!"
www.namyth.com ^ | 11/09/2007 | www.namyth.com

Posted on 11/08/2007 4:59:05 PM PST by WesternCulture

Sweden:

"The Highest Standard of Living Anywhere"

The beautiful nation of Sweden has the highest standard of living in the world.

(Excerpt) Read more at namyth.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: capitalism; ideology; socialism; sweden
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To: WesternCulture

Malmo.

How much time would you spend in Malmo?

Unarmed and unguarded is what I am talking about.


21 posted on 11/08/2007 5:19:07 PM PST by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
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To: WesternCulture

inte lågom


22 posted on 11/08/2007 5:21:06 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Truthism Watch)
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To: WesternCulture

I’ve been to Sweden and seen your empty Lutheran churches.

I’ve had true Lutheran ministers visit our American Lutheran churches asking for help in spreading the real Lutheran word and not that of the state.

Sorry, I’m not buying the Swedish “Lutheran” line of BS.


23 posted on 11/08/2007 5:22:13 PM PST by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
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"... dollar millionaires per capita happens to be a Scandinavian one, Norway"

Any mention of the HUGH amount of money Norway rakes in due to North Sea oil? How wonderful would they be if they didn't have that?

24 posted on 11/08/2007 5:25:25 PM PST by Honcho Bongs (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. - Churchill)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Socialism works”

- No it doesn’t.

However, choosing the Scandinavian fiscal path of high VAT (simply put: sales taxes - however, it isn’t exactly the same thing) INSTEAD of high corporate taxes might appear an intelligent once you’ve decided it is Capitalist corporations like Ericsson, Nokia, IKEA, Bofors, Electrolux and SAAB that produce the wealth of nations.


25 posted on 11/08/2007 5:29:32 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
“The inherent vice of freedom is the unequal sharing of the blessings; the inherent blessing of equality will be the equal sharing of misery.”

Sir Winston Churchill

Sir Winston was right!

26 posted on 11/08/2007 5:31:12 PM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: WesternCulture

You confuse base values with politics, my friend..

In Europe, the people always looked to thier kings for solutions to whatever crisis befell them, from famine, to invasion...

America, on the other hand, was founded by folk looking for a new life, free of the tyranny’s against freedom of whatever-it-was that brought them here...

We don’t have long generational memories of wars with our neighbors, and we are a hodgepodge of people’s, instead of swedes, or danes, or deutch, etc...

(At least until recently, when hyphonated-Americanism rose along with the Democrat politics of victimization)


27 posted on 11/08/2007 5:32:11 PM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: WesternCulture

It never fails. If the news does a story about something we don’t know much about, someone who does always points out that the story is mostly false.

Thanks for supplying the facts.


28 posted on 11/08/2007 5:33:26 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Honcho Bongs

“Any mention of the HUGH amount of money Norway rakes in due to North Sea oil? How wonderful would they be if they didn’t have that?”

HUGH!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1864973/posts?page=2#2


29 posted on 11/08/2007 5:34:57 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

You are quite correct; you have a great country, and are considered true friends of the US.....and rightfully so.

I will add that you are quite correct that the current US tax codes are harsh on our corporations and need to be revamped; if not totally tossed. Same is true of our income tax on individuals; it’s a sick joke now days. We know it, and many seek to remedy this.

It’s just that we don’t believe that government should be in the business of owning companies, taxing individuals at confiscatory rates to pay for all manner of “social” programs, etc. etc. It puts FAR too much power in the hands of a central government. Pure capitalists.....and in this country, Constitutionalists......believe in the de-centralization of power. Sweden’s current governmental structure is quite Socialist in a literal sense. This doesn’t imply that we or any other American believe that Swedes bow to the statue of Marx; far from it. It is just that our country was built upon and THRIVED upon a spirit of rugged individualism.

Something, by the way, that so many of us want back....and fight the Democrats tooth and nail to make it happen.

God bless you, and may God bless Sweden and her people.


30 posted on 11/08/2007 5:36:49 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: WesternCulture
- That’s why real Socialism always has been defeated on Scandinavian soil.

LOL!

Yes, in Denmark, but NOT in Sweden. Seems like you never have heard of Hjalmar Branting

Per Albin Hansson

Tage Erlander

Osten Unden

Olof Palme

Ingvar Carlson

Goran Persson!!

Plus a few other sosser as well governing for more than a century!!!???

31 posted on 11/08/2007 5:40:55 PM PST by danamco (Now, I would LOVE to hear your solution as to how to remove 12 to 30 million people from this countr)
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To: american_ranger

the article is bogus. It says “Sweden adopts Catholicism as its official religion.”(Unless it’s a poor translation for some reason). It is 87% Lutheran.


32 posted on 11/08/2007 5:41:17 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: Bigun

“Sir Winston was right!”

- At least, Sir Winston Churchill was never wrong!

If Churchill would’ve been truly immortal, I, as a Swede, believe Kamprad (Mr. IKEA) would’ve entrusted him his Swedish company for eternity the day he’s no longer pining for the fjords..


33 posted on 11/08/2007 5:45:19 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
If Churchill would’ve been truly immortal, I, as a Swede, believe Kamprad (Mr. IKEA) would’ve entrusted him his Swedish company for eternity the day he’s no longer pining for the fjords..

Last week my wife and I went to the newest IKEA store in the U.S. that opened 3 weeks ago. WOW, what a store that will be hurting Rooms-to-Go big time!!!

34 posted on 11/08/2007 5:49:59 PM PST by danamco (Now, I would LOVE to hear your solution as to how to remove 12 to 30 million people from this countr)
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To: Honcho Bongs
How wonderful would they be if they didn't have that?

That's a stupid and irrelevant question. How about if I ask you how wonderful would your life be if you were a crack junkie and your wife was a prostitute.........?

Fact is, they got it and you ain't a junkie........

35 posted on 11/08/2007 5:51:46 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I could be Agent "HT")
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To: danamco

“The negative inheritance I received from my predecessor Gunnar Sträng (Minister of Finance 1955 - 1976) was a strongly progressive tax system with high marginal taxes. This was supposed to bring about a just and equal society. But I eventually came to the opinion that it simply didn t work out that way he concluded. Progressive taxes created instead a society of wranglers, cheaters, peculiar manipulations, false ambitions and new injustices. It took me at least a decade to get a part of the party to see this.”

K-O Feldt, former Swedish Minister of Finance (1982-1990)

These words mark the ultimate defeat of Socialism on Swedish and therefore Scandinavian soil.


36 posted on 11/08/2007 5:55:09 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
Just FYI...I spent a week or so in Ireland and the UK last June.A few things that struck me....1)posted on every parking meter I saw in London is the warning that any car caught at a meter that had expired would be fined 100 pounds...200 US dollars.A ride of as little as two minutes on the London Underground costs 4 pounds...8 US dollars...unless you buy a card that,itself,costs about 10 US dollars.Gasoline in Greater London costs about 9 US dollars per gallon...as opposed to less than 3 US dollars a gallon that is being charged right down the street from me on this very evening.One can only assume that the other 6 US dollars a gallon is tax.

And as for Norway having more millionaires (per capita) than any other country...that wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that for the last twenty years Norway has been producing 3000 barrels of oil per year for every man,woman and child in the country,would it?

If the breathtaking level of taxation and regulations that are in effect in Sweden works for Swedes that's great.But any attempt by you or anyone else might make to convince me that we should emulate Sweden/Europe will fall on deaf ears with me and the overwhelming majority of Americans who are here legally and who work for a living.

I've traveled to Europe a number of times.In fact,I am an Irish citizen (as well as a US citizen) and as one I could live and work in any EU country I wished.In spite of that fact I'll gladly stick with the US and I'm sure you'll gladly stick with Sweden.

37 posted on 11/08/2007 5:57:29 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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38 posted on 11/08/2007 5:59:30 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Me thinks WesternCuture is hiding.

No responses to many, many comments.


39 posted on 11/08/2007 6:04:12 PM PST by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
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To: WesternCulture
No, but it might well be a ‘Capitalist’ paradise. The country which produces the largest amount of dollar millionaires per capita happens to be a Scandinavian one, Norway.

Yeah, but they have oil and few people. "Per Capita" arguments are always biases to the small countries so is quite useless for comparison. Always. At some point, you reach diminishing returns because not everything scales linearly.

40 posted on 11/08/2007 6:05:44 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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