Posted on 11/09/2007 12:23:48 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
Former Arizona Governor Fife Symington will be moderating a November 12 event at the National Press Club where he will discuss the Phoenix Lights incident. He says he will be joined by 14 former high-ranking military and government officials from seven countries who will share evidence from what they call their own UFO experiences and investigations.
Fife Symington says he nearly had a close encounter while governor of Arizona.
(CNN) -- In 1997, during my second term as governor of Arizona, I saw something that defied logic and challenged my reality.
I witnessed a massive delta-shaped, craft silently navigate over Squaw Peak, a mountain range in Phoenix, Arizona. It was truly breathtaking. I was absolutely stunned because I was turning to the west looking for the distant Phoenix Lights.
To my astonishment this apparition appeared; this dramatically large, very distinctive leading edge with some enormous lights was traveling through the Arizona sky.
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We can speculate about the existence of life on other worlds. And we can deconstruct deliberate hoaxed “evidence” of UFOs. And we can attempt to identify the “unidentifiable”.
But I don’t know why SCIENCE channels on cable give so much airtime to the “supernatural” (whether that be psychics, UFOs, et al). Speculative at best. Not science.
History channel comes up short on history sometimes too.
Is that Tourist Guy in the lower building to the left?
I had an experience like that around 30 years ago outside Philadelphia. Several of us who were on the rural road that night all pulled over and got out to watch this odd silent, glowing thing hovering in the sky at what seemed to be a pretty low altitude. I still have no guess as to what it was, but I still assume it was some sort of military vehicle/drone/whatever being tested, perhaps something out of the Willow Grove air station.
The aliens seem to like round buildings. Maybe all their buildings are round (conserves heat energy the best).
This would have been in the seventies sometime.
Thank you— I was there, and my husband & I saw these lights. We were fascinated for about maybe 10 minutes, then moved on with our evening. I didn’t even realize until a few years ago that there was some sort of controversy about the sightings. I just assumed it was some sort of military thing we weren’t supposed to know about.
If Fife Symington is a kook, then the majority of America’s astronauts are kooks too. Astonauts, however, wish to remain astronauts, and as such decline to discuss the issue, at least in the press.
Buzz Aldrin’s just now talking about it, now that he’s too old to go to space.
Yet, we get immediate pictures and videos of fires, hurricanes, tsunamis, auto accidents, riots, police fighting criminals, sports events, people acting stupidly, animals running wild in city areas, etc. from passersby and other witnesses. People with cams are everywhere around us.. except when UFO's are flying it seems!
I have never seen a UFO, but, apparently, a lot of folks have, or, at least, they claim they have. Several sightings have had multiple witnesses and have even drawn military/governmental responses, but without any intelligent clarifications afterward. The large triangular object referred to in the post was, if I’m not mistaken, the subject of a lawsuit against the Air Force, a suit that demanded the release of information about that object. The suit failed in court, but the questions about that object, seen by hundreds of people, remain. Maybe all of those folks were just hallucinating, but it is a little troubling that laughter and ridicule is the first and formost response to someone who claims to have seen something unexplainable.
Well, here’s a video about UFOs, narrated by one of the guys that played James Bond (I don’t know which, I just remember the voice).
A shot of one over Italy:
Fox news, Sheppard Smith, covering UFOs in Mexico:
Buzz Aldrin recounting episode aboard Apollo 11. They were concerned about the S4B, one of the boosters that was jettisoned a couple of days before. SOME thing followed them....
Now, I’m not saying that any of these were “real UFOs” or “alien spacecraft”, but I’m saying that there are indeed photos and videos filmed even recently.
The problem is, cell phones don’t record good video ANYWAY. So, you’re not going to get good video from them. My awesome digital camera, on full zoom will photograph things in a distance but not video them very well at all.
So, your supposition that “videos should be better” is just flawed. 99% of the folks with cameras haven’t any training in using them, especially not under stressful conditions.
One more thing.
This guy, Michio Kaku is... a brilliant man, I don’t agree with him on everything he says, but he speaks about types of civilizations that might exist, where we are on the time scale of things, and exactly what we’re going through on Earth at this very time.
If you’re of a mind to do so, you should read a book by him about “The Future”. I don’t recall the exact name of the book, but that’s what it’s about. Basically predictions of what will happen. He’s pretty dead on.
It’s easier to disbelieve something you’ve not seen with your own eyes and be skeptical. It’s much easier to ridicule someone else for having seen something they couldn’t explain.
The truth is a lot of people simply do not want to have an open mind on many subjects. It doesn’t fit into their world view of things, or belief system.
As an example (and I’m not picking on ANYONE here), religious folks will attempt to explain away “UFOs” as angels and demons (I’ve heard this several times, and in a couple of sermons even).
Non-religious folks, for instance New Agers, tend to explain things away as “Mystical”.
From a purely scientific point of view, most of us want to remain skeptical about what folks have seen, having NOT seen the same things with our OWN eyes. Me included. I’m very skeptical. The difference is, after you’ve interviewed someone, as I have, who has seen “something” but they couldn’t say precisely what — they want to tell the truth as they saw it.
Certainly people misinterpret things they see and can’t quite fathom what they are looking at, I’m sure we’ve all done it at one time or another with something. BUT, people who honestly believe they have seen something shouldn’t be greeted with laughter or ridicule, but an open mind.
Sure, be skeptical, sure, question everything. DEFINITELY question everything, but being objective means that one must listen to what they say, without judging them right off as “kooks” or anything else.
Some people who visit this site are, by and large, good people, but are dead set in their misbelief of ANYTHING that doesn’t fit their world view.
It’s sad in a way, because they will never expand their knowledge beyond their own beliefs. And folks, some of your beliefs are simply WRONG.
How can I say that? Because once, I had some set beliefs, and until the jar they were in got broken and I could see past the glass, I couldn’t see anything OTHER than the collection of nonsense I’d been fed.
It’s called “A Liberal mind waking up to Conservatism”.
Many of you should try it... Conservatives and Liberals alike
I glad you posted that. However, an awful lot of the videos we see (like the things I listed) are shot when people are under stressful conditions (hurricanes, accidents, etc.) and are amatures, and are excellent. So I partially agree with you. Maybe cell phones would not give good results, but we sure saw great ones of the hurricane in New Orleans, and most of those were by average people. I think some out there have teriffic skills. I even remember great shots of 9/11 that were taken by people in NY in other buildings, on the ground, etc. and what could have been more stressful than that? I guess we agree 50-50, LOL.
I lived in Phoenix that night too. I just happened not to have gone outside that evening. Afterward, when everyone discussed this over the water cooler, I felt like one of the characters in those "Left Behind" stories.
I also happened to not have watched TV news that evening. Not that this would have done any good, because Phoenix TV news is a total waste of time when real breaking news occurs. Had an alien landed on the Capitol lawn and announced peace for all mankind, Phoenix news outlets would have broken away to cover a car chase.
2) "That picture was of somewhere else."
3) "People who believe in bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster collect pictures like that."
4)
"These are other pictures of Groom Lake."(*)
5) "Nobody has actually seen this in real life."
6) "This is the sort of 'evidence' that the aluminum hat crowd post all the time."
7) "Pravda publishes pictures like this all the time. Those wacky Russians."
8) "People who believe in this also think they were abducted by aliens and that Roswell, New Mexico exists."
(*) A vampire, wolfware, and a zombie.
Perfectly normal & understandable.
"Flying saucers" sells newspapers; "skipping croisants" doesn't.
Cool story. It was because he couldn’t tell you a military secret. See post #46.
When its all falling apart, the Aliens will to step in and show us a way out, according to UFO lore.
In July '04, I personally got as close as Sedan Crater, which is southwest of the picture, just over the hill from Groom. The picture you see is what shows up if you Google Earth the place. We plebeians have no way of knowing what's REALLY at those coordinates. Muahahahahaha!
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