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"Move, You're Dead" - 911 call records man shooting burglars
Fox News ^ | November 16

Posted on 11/16/2007 2:47:22 PM PST by Sopater

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To: Sopater

Most interesting.


21 posted on 11/16/2007 3:07:15 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: kimoajax

No, the 911 call shows that he didn’t want to do this. It even captures his “Don’t move, or you’re dead” statement to the criminals.

I seriously doubt he will be prosecuted.

Plus, both the guys he killed already had criminal records.

This is Texas.


22 posted on 11/16/2007 3:07:36 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
It even captures his “Don’t move, or you’re dead” statement to the criminals.

They obviously moved.
23 posted on 11/16/2007 3:08:50 PM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Spktyr

He is covered by (1).

This will be no-billed by the Grand Jury pronto.


24 posted on 11/16/2007 3:10:03 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: jmax

There’s a lot of shootings out that way.


25 posted on 11/16/2007 3:11:28 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: kimoajax

Meanwhile in Galveston a millionaire “accidently” killed his neighbor, chopped up the body, and threw it away at sea. He walks a free man today.


26 posted on 11/16/2007 3:14:45 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: cripplecreek

THe smartest thing in my opinion would’ve been to call 911 AFTER the shooting was over.


27 posted on 11/16/2007 3:15:03 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Sopater

Ouch... this may turn into a really difficult case.

I dunno what the law is in Texas, and I would love to have this guy for MY neighbor, but he may be in big trouble.

The argument he might make is that he had every right to stop a crime in progress against his neighbor. He ordered the perp(s) to stop. The perp made some threatening action (hopefully) and he then defended himself.

It doesn’t help his case that he started out telling the operator that he was going to shoot, and that was before he was personally threatened at all.

Dang. I’d give him the benefit of the doubt, but not all juries may do that.


28 posted on 11/16/2007 3:15:58 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Spktyr

Ah... nice law you got there. That may save him.


29 posted on 11/16/2007 3:17:39 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Dog Gone

In Houston there was a man who had a home invasion and shot one of the men INSIDE his house climbing up his internal staircase.

The driver got away and later turned himself in. There were no charges on the surviving member of the home invasion team, meanwhile the shooter had to defend himself (and he was cleared) in the death.

When he asked the police for the name of the other man, they refused to provide it. When he asked what precautions he should take to protect his family, he was advised to “circle the block twice” before ever entering his garage.

Chuck Rosenthal is not self-defense friendly but he certainly botched the defense of the State’s same-sex sodomy law. Will his arm stretch to Pasadena in this shooting?


30 posted on 11/16/2007 3:18:09 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Sopater
They obviously moved.

Not necessarily. Course, doesn't make any difference now.

31 posted on 11/16/2007 3:18:44 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: mamelukesabre

In Texas, no, it’s not. He’d apprehended them and was holding them at gunpoint. He told them not to escape, they attempted to do so, he shot them.

Texas has *no* duty to retreat or not shoot a fleeing felon, especially at night.


32 posted on 11/16/2007 3:19:02 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
After the grand jury boots the case - That has me recall the James Michner book Texas - some Yankee comes down and starts a real estate scam and gets shot and killed; after the trial ends and it is time to make a verdict the judge tells the jury to go in the jury room and deliberate and provide a verdict, the jurors turn and chat for a moment and the foreman stands up and ask the judge if they really have to leave the room, the judge says it would look better if they did. They found the scammed Texan shooter to be innocent.
33 posted on 11/16/2007 3:20:33 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: Sopater

If they were illegals, he’s done for.

If they were Americans, he’ll be fine.


34 posted on 11/16/2007 3:20:53 PM PST by ovrtaxt (You're a destiny that God wrapped a body around.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
If his neighbor told him to “look after my house,” he’ll go free.

If I were the neighbor, I'd testify that I asked him to look after my house even if I didn't. And I'd buy him another box of ammunition as a thank you gift.

35 posted on 11/16/2007 3:23:10 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

(( ping ))


36 posted on 11/16/2007 3:24:30 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Spktyr

This didn’t happen at night, and there’s no evidence that the shooter was in fear for his life, even after making his verbal warning.

The guys undoubtedly tried to flee.

I’d argue that they were fleeing felons who had been put under citizen’s arrest. The fact they were unquestionably committing a felonious act at the time is going to be enough. I would be SHOCKED if Texas prosecuted this guy.


37 posted on 11/16/2007 3:25:37 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

was this shooting in texas or pasadena cal.?


38 posted on 11/16/2007 3:28:46 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Dog Gone
This will be no-billed by the Grand Jury pronto.

Am I correct in assuming this is a formality, mainly to protect him from civil suit liability?

39 posted on 11/16/2007 3:34:24 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (I'm not a Hyphenated-Americican; I'm a Gringo-Chinamexistani.)
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