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Clinton seeks to convince voters she won debate
Yahoo ^ | Nov. 16, 2007 | Steve Holland

Posted on 11/16/2007 3:25:10 PM PST by COUNTrecount

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton's camp tried to convince voters on Friday that she had put a bad two-week stretch behind her and emerged strong from her debate performance in Las Vegas.

The Clinton campaign put together video clips of some of her remarks at the debate showing her fighting back and defending herself against her rivals. The videos were turned into a Web appeal asking for campaign contributions.

"In the November 15 Democratic debate in Las Vegas, when there was the most at stake, Hillary put on her best performance. She was prepared, firm, and 100 percent ready to lead America," said a statement posted on the Web video link, which was available on her campaign's Web site.

Clinton, a New York senator, needed a smooth debate performance to try to tamp down an emerging notion that her air of invincibility had been punctured by a lackluster showing at the last debate on October 30 and a series of other seeming missteps.

In Las Vegas, she shifted from an above-the-fray style to one of attacking her closest challengers, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, accusing Edwards in particular of slinging mud.

Obama and Edwards refused to cede any ground to Clinton despite glowing descriptions of the former first lady's performance from various political experts such as the Des Moines Register's leading political writer Daniel Yepsen, whose column headline was a play on the words of an old Frank Sinatra song: "That's Why the Lady is a Champ."

Clinton, Obama and Edwards are all in a tight race in Iowa, which on January 3 kicks off the state-by-state battles to pick the Democratic and Republican candidates who will face off in the November 4, 2008, election.

A victory in Iowa can generate momentum heading into the next state contest, in New Hampshire, and beyond.

TAXES AND SOCIAL SECURITY

Obama's campaign challenged Clinton's debate answers on questions about how to keep the Social Security retirement benefits system solvent in coming decades.

The Obama camp circulated a letter to Clinton written by an Iowa citizen, Tod Bowman of Maquoketa.

Bowman noted that Obama had clearly stated he would be in favor of raising Social Security taxes for high-income earners. He also said Clinton attacked Obama for the position despite having told him, Bowman, she would consider raising those taxes as well, during an October 7 event in his hometown.

"It just gives the impression that you're not being straight with people about where you stand. And if you won't be straight with us on the campaign trail, how can we be sure you'll be honest with the American people when you're president?" Bowman asked.

The Edwards camp criticized Clinton's debate comments on the North American Free Trade Agreement, the U.S.-Canada-Mexico trade accord that many Americans believe has cost the United States jobs.

Eager for support from union workers, the Edwards campaign criticized Clinton for having "laughed off" a question about NAFTA by saying, "All I can remember from that is a bunch of charts."

Clinton's husband, then-President Bill Clinton, had signed the NAFTA accord when he was in office in the 1990s. She did say that NAFTA "did not do what many had hoped" and that "we do need to figure out how we're going to have trade relations that are smart."

Long-shot Democratic candidate Christopher Dodd, a Connecticut senator, accused all three -- Clinton, Edwards and Obama -- of dodging questions, and singled out Obama in particular for speaking without clarity on whether illegal immigrants should qualify for drivers licenses.

Dodd criticized Clinton for a last-minute shift in her position on the topic, from saying at the last debate it "makes a lot of sense," to being against it once New York state killed a proposal that would have allowed undocumented workers to get drivers licenses.

"Instead of clarity, we've been treated to a procession of flip-flopping, hyper-qualification and answers of convenience," Dodd said


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To: COUNTrecount

She’s probably confusing the word “won” with the word “staged.”


21 posted on 11/16/2007 6:00:20 PM PST by Duke Nukum (He burns at the center of time and he sees the turn of the Universe.)
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To: ReluctantDragon
I agree. Hillary did not win the debate. She actually did relatively poorly, a D+ - no matter how much CNN and others spin it. And Wolf did a poor job, lost control right at the start.

My take -
*Winner of the debate: Joe Biden
*the most stupid candidate: Richardson
*craziest: Dennis Kusinich
*most honest: Dennis Kusinich
*the most presidential: Joe Biden
*biggest surprise: how Obama mangled an expected YES-NO question. According to Hardball it took him, IIRC, 199 words to answer it.

I repeat what others have said - lets be thankful Biden has no chance. In a general election, he would be the hardest to beat. But Democrats are too taken with Hillary.

22 posted on 11/16/2007 6:02:57 PM PST by Dante3
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To: johnnycap
Also Biden was relaxed, not uptight and angry like shrill Hillary. Hillary is so lacking in charisma, likability, and leadership. She is divisive and as POTUS would be even more divisive. She would never be a unifying force and would have difficulty working with Congress. We do not need the forming of a dynasty.

A trivial observation - her jacket was not a good choice and the line between her lashes and eyebrows, like mini eyebrows, look odd.

23 posted on 11/16/2007 6:42:05 PM PST by Dante3
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To: COUNTrecount

This is Mike Wallace’s take on the debate:

“Wallace on Wolf: “Reminded Me of Joe Pesci in Lethal Weapon 2”
One more political item before the weekend: Newsbusters’ Rich Noyes asks “Did Democrats shoot themselves in [the] foot by boycotting Fox News?” The story includes a biting commentary from FNC’s Chris Wallace on the Democratic debate last night.

“I watched about the first hour of it, and then I thought I was getting stupider so I turned it off...But that’s more a commentary on CNN than it is on the Democrats.”
And on the difference between Fox and CNN when it comes to debates.

“...Fox, I have to say, I think we’re smarter. We let the guy talk for a minute. At the end of the minute, the bell rings, and that’s it. But instead we have Wolf Blitzer every 30 seconds going, “Okay, okay, okay.” It reminded me of Joe Pesci in Lethal Weapon 2”

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/


24 posted on 11/16/2007 6:46:09 PM PST by casino66 ( If I vote Dem I'll get everything 'free')
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To: COUNTrecount

She’s got quite a crew, doesnt she. Eek. God help US.


25 posted on 11/16/2007 6:48:49 PM PST by newconhere (bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zap)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Ditto.


26 posted on 11/16/2007 6:52:15 PM PST by Dante3
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To: COUNTrecount
The fix was cemented when CNN MUTED her cackle after being asked a question.

This is insane politics.

27 posted on 11/16/2007 7:02:10 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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28 posted on 11/16/2007 7:19:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: UCANSEE2

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29 posted on 11/16/2007 7:22:03 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: MaxMax

Yes.


30 posted on 11/16/2007 8:07:04 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Libloather

“Can’t wait to see what happens after she loses the general election - bitch about the electoral college - again?”

I like your attitude. There are so many defeatists here. I think she will lose too. I plan on doing my “happy dance” when they announce another GOP presidency in 2008. I will have my tv tuned on Keith Olberdork that day.


31 posted on 11/16/2007 9:01:49 PM PST by ClarenceThomasfan (Don't be a kamikoze Conservative! Vote Republican in 2008!)
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To: COUNTrecount

Video: Was there more than meets the eye to the booing at last night’s debate? Update: Obama blogger calls shenanigans

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/16/video-was-there-more-than-meets-the-eye-to-the-booing-at-last-nights-debate/


32 posted on 11/16/2007 10:31:06 PM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: HoustonTech

Well, Edwards and Obama lost it, but I doubt that means Hillary won. Diamonds or pearls......blech!


33 posted on 11/16/2007 10:39:17 PM PST by tioga (Snow Flurries in New York.)
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To: MaxMax

not ONE soundbite of that cackle after the debates? heck...that’s all you could hear during the first 30 minutes...and it was LOUD....then POOF, it was gone.


34 posted on 11/16/2007 10:40:45 PM PST by tioga (Snow Flurries in New York.)
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To: COUNTrecount
I'd like to give Biden a plug...ok he has a headfull of them, but in that group he came off as entertaining

There is little if anything that I would agree with Biden on, because he is a Democratic Senator, and there is little difference in his voting record than Kennedy's or Kerry's. But I will give him this, he is the most knowlegable Democrat candidate on foreign policy that I have seen in a long time. If these debates were real, and they had real journalists who were both knowlegeable and did their homework and asked probing questions on foreign policy, Biden would really put the rest of that field to shame.

35 posted on 11/16/2007 11:17:12 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: Biblebelter

Ditto.


36 posted on 11/17/2007 11:20:42 AM PST by Dante3
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