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Immigration Is the Question
WSJ ^ | November 19 2007 | June Kronholz

Posted on 11/18/2007 7:54:29 PM PST by yorkie

Barack Obama had just ended his stump speech before a friendly audience in this tiny southern Iowa town when Stephen Scott's hand shot up with a question. Would Mr. Obama, as president, have signed last summer's failed "amnesty bill" for illegal immigrants, Mr. Scott, a local landscape painter, asked testily.

Mr. Obama cautiously walked through a long answer that ended with a plan to give legal status to long-established illegal immigrants. "There. Another question," he said, shutting down discussion.

Democratic strategists believe that Hispanic voters could swing a decisive handful of states -- including Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada -- to the Democrats in 2008, ensuring the election of a Democratic president and cementing a Democratic majority for years to come. But the party's blue-collar, middle-income and African-American supporters are increasingly angry about illegal immigration, much of it Hispanic.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; immigration; rico; vote
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1 posted on 11/18/2007 7:54:30 PM PST by yorkie
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Democratic pollsters are wrong (as usual).


2 posted on 11/18/2007 7:56:05 PM PST by SatinDoll
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Wrong - again.


3 posted on 11/18/2007 8:03:58 PM PST by tennteacher (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: SatinDoll

>> “Democratic pollsters are wrong (as usual).” <<

So are the Democrats.


4 posted on 11/18/2007 8:04:46 PM PST by yorkie
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This is typical WSJ blather. They are attempting to discount the illegal immigration issue. Hillary is not so stupid that she cannot read poll data. In one of the most liberal states in the union she and her boy Elliot were forced very publicly to stand down. I think NY poll data was way over 60 per cent against licenses to illegals and again that it in one of the most liberal states in the union. Shame on the WSJ for continuing to be the shameless globablist rag it is.


5 posted on 11/18/2007 8:05:25 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: yorkie

Republicans with a spine can win on this issue in ‘08.


6 posted on 11/18/2007 8:08:04 PM PST by umgud (the profound is only so to those that it is)
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They aren’t immigrants, they are illegal migrant workers. Invaders for short.


7 posted on 11/18/2007 8:09:10 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: tennteacher; yorkie

What I meant to say was that Democratic strategists are wrong on this issue, not pollsters.

I’m glad that they’re wrong on this issue, as Americans of all racial and ethnic backgrounds are mad as hell at the scoff law attitude evinced by illegal aliens, the left-wing loonies, and (God help us!) President Bush. This is a law and order issue which can carry Republicans into Congress and the White House both, or so I believe.


8 posted on 11/18/2007 8:14:07 PM PST by SatinDoll
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Republicans with a spine can win on this issue in ‘08.

They should be clobbering the Democrats over the head with this issue RIGHT NOW and wrecking them in the pre-season. They aren't.

9 posted on 11/18/2007 8:16:18 PM PST by gunservative
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To: BuffaloJack

Illegal invaders.........


10 posted on 11/18/2007 8:16:42 PM PST by yorkie
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"Democrats also risk setting off a "rivalry between the minorities" if they tilt toward Hispanics with their immigration policy, says the University of Virginia's Mr. Ceaser. The rise of Hispanic political power has come largely at the expense of African Americans, and Hispanic immigrants have largely replaced blacks in some industries, including construction."

There's the rub.

Blacks remain loyal to Democrats by 90% even when Democrats have jilted them in favor of Hispanics who have kicked them out of formerly well-paid jobs in construction, service, and trades.

And they will continue to support Democrats and blame Republicans for their deeper and deeper slide into poverty. Go figger.

11 posted on 11/18/2007 8:37:33 PM PST by oldbill
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Democratic strategists believe that Hispanic voters could swing a decisive handful of states -- including Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada -- to the Democrats in 2008,...

I don't get it. They must be talking about illegal Hispanics voting.

It seems the legals, the ones that have followed all the rules..have no use for the illegals.
12 posted on 11/18/2007 8:42:07 PM PST by stylin19a
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It never seems to register with the Wall Street Jounal and other political elites that a lot of Hispanics (who consider themsleves Americans first) went to the trouble to come here legally and earned their citizenship. They do not appreciate being lumped into the same class as the invaders from the south who bid down all American wages and want to bring the third world hell-hole from whence they came further north. I speak from personal experience.
13 posted on 11/18/2007 8:47:03 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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I agree wholeheartedly with your post. The WSJ used to be fair and balanced. Looks like somebody was paid off big time. And it is not the first time, either.

If you don’t ‘get it’, and it doesn’t ‘make sense’ - follow the money.


14 posted on 11/18/2007 8:57:46 PM PST by yorkie
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My recent experience in Houston.

The Balkanization of America

15 posted on 11/18/2007 9:07:08 PM PST by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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Democrats also risk setting off a "rivalry between the minorities" if they tilt toward Hispanics with their immigration policy, says the University of Virginia's Mr. Ceaser. The rise of Hispanic political power has come largely at the expense of African Americans, and Hispanic immigrants have largely replaced blacks in some industries, including construction.

Miami Urban League president T. Willard Fair, among the few black leaders who speak openly about the effects of illegal immigration on African-Americans, says "there is an undercurrent" of resentment in his community. Blacks aren't likely to leave the Democratic party over it, he says, and they're reluctant to publicly oppose immigration because of their own civil rights history. But "all you have to do is take a walk to the neighborhood bar to hear the talk," he says.

The demorats are throwing the black voter under the bus for the illegals votes. But the pubs just don't have the cojones to tell anyone.

16 posted on 11/18/2007 9:07:55 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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If you don’t ‘get it’, and it doesn’t ‘make sense’ - follow the money.

Amnesty is 100% pushed by the chamber of commerce, and their slave labor division.

17 posted on 11/18/2007 9:13:16 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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Despite the best efforts of the elites and media, the momentum against illegal immigration continues to grow. Elliot Spitzer was steamrolled on his driver’s license for illegals program. The more people learn about the issue the greater their indignation and anger.

Hopefully, the incompetent republicans will shed Bush’s policies and move ahead defending both our borders and constitution.


18 posted on 11/18/2007 9:24:57 PM PST by Maynerd (Hillary = amnesty, higher taxes,defeat in the WOT, and socialized medicine)
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>> “Amnesty is 100% pushed by the chamber of commerce, and their slave labor division.” <<

You are SO right! Most people don’t realize what commies the Chamber of Commerce is!!!


19 posted on 11/18/2007 9:31:40 PM PST by yorkie
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Republicans with a spine can win on this issue in ‘08.

They are few and far between. The rest are too stupid to figure out how to win. THE RNC is a joke. I haven't given them a nickle in decades.

20 posted on 11/18/2007 9:33:39 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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