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The GOP: A House Divided
http://streetlevel.townhall.com ^ | 11/12/07 | Darvin Dowdy

Posted on 11/18/2007 9:36:30 PM PST by Darvin Dowdy

The GOP has divided like some amoeba on a glass slide under a microscope.

There are the Globalists that continue to warn the various GOP candidates and politicians that they will damage their political careers if they take the side of those wanting to seal the border and strictly enforce existing immigration laws. They blame the discontent by GOP voters on the Iraq War, run-away federal spending and scandalous behavior by elected GOP politicians. They delight in pointing to the downfall of those who have taken strong enforcement first stances. J.D. Hayworth lost his congressional seat in Arizona after taking a tough stance on the border. George Allen of Virginia lost his senate seat, some say for the same reason. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania. And in the current presidential race the campaigns of both hard line border enforcement candidates, Hunter and Tancredo appear to be sinking like a rock. Their fundraising efforts a total joke. Or so these geopolitical elitists would want us to believe.

And then there’s our side of the divided amoeba. We don’t really have “advisers” and “strategists” telling us what our next move should be. We live every day with the reality of illegal immigration and its negative, downward pull on our social structure. We’ve observed the illegals banding together, marching in the streets of America. Streets that we as taxpayers have paid to build. We saw them waving Mexican flags and burning American flags. Their monumental ingratitude. We’ve watched our politicians allow these illegal hordes to invade our nation and enjoy rights and privileges that actually accede our own. And when we dared to raise complaints regarding this dangerous and worsening situation these same politicians, that we elected, presented us with disrespect, insults and intimidation. Yet we fight on to maintain and protect our nations sovereignty.

Sadly, we are losing. The globalists controlling our party seem to be gaining the upper hand. Both Hunter and Tancredo are nearly out of cash ( link ). The other candidates , good men all, will simply not remain on our side in the long term, in my view. They are making all the correct noises now because they want our votes. But when the battle gets intense they’ll fall back on they’re long proven expertise – the art of compromise.

So the question begs to be answered – why? Why have the campaigns of Hunter and Tancredo faltered? Certainly its not lack of support. Duncan Hunter recently left the entire GOP pack in the dust in the Texas Straw Poll. No one was even close. He’s also won other straw polls. Tancredo did well in the recent Iowa straw. Why are they so upside down in the fundraising department? Would it be fair to say that their followers are a bunch of dunces who go about waving their flags and emotions in the air? Who are so stupid that they can’t figure out that it takes money to run a campaign? God forbid as I count myself among them. Well the jury is not yet in on that verdict yet. But honestly, something simply doesn’t add up. About 60% of Americans support tougher enforcement of immigration laws. Hunter and Tancredo both have large followings. So where are the donors?

Where the heck are these so called Border Watch groups, I ask? Groups like the Minutemen Project? And U.S. Border Watch? Jim Gilchrist’s Wake Up America? And U.S. Border Control? And these are just a few. There are many more org’s of this nature. But when you visit these sites you see no open support for Hunter or Tancredo. No ads, banners or anything. You can’t tell me that there isn’t a way to, legally, get the word out to their members regarding the fundraising woe’s of these 2 candidates. My gosh the entire Borders/Illegals issue is at stake! Certainly the decision makers within these organizations must have enough snap to know that without enlightened politicians and originalist judges on the bench our cause of U.S. sovereignty is doomed! Many of the org’s have become bogged down in the details and have lost sight of the mission. I ask all who read this to begin some kind of email campaign or other correspondence to these org’s immediately. Especially those who might be members of such groups. Put pressure on them to more aggressively work for our 2 valiant candidates Hunter and/or Tancredo. Withhold your donations to these groups until they regain the correct priorities. Inform them, if they don’t know, of the dire fundraising situation that our 2 candidates face and encourage them to formulate an action plan to help keep these campaigns effective financially. These candidates can not be effective without TV/Radio campaigns and that takes money.

And one might ask, where is corporate America? Why no help for the Hunter and Tancredo campaigns from large U.S. companies? One of the main thrusts of the Hunter campaign is to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. You’d think large companies would be all over that and the donations would be pouring in. Not so. You see the corporate fat cats see the blood in the water. Republican blood. So the corporate cowards are shifting over to the dem’s thinking that the GOP will be devoured by the sharks. The CEO’s like the idea of Hillary Care. A huge chunk of their annual budget goes toward medical insurance benefits for their employees. They like the idea of that massive expenditure instead being diverted into their quarterly bonus’. Additionally, they love the continued flow of cheap labor coming from across the border. This is why both Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo are persona non grata in the eyes of the corporate fat cats. And the dem’s are wallowing in money.

So while the fundraising efforts of our valiant candidates Hunter and Tancredo continue to sink into the quagmire, the globalists that have hijacked “our” GOP are standing around in the shadows having a good laugh at our expense. Snickering at us. Also sinking into the quagmire is our cause of sealing the borders and insisting that our elected officials see to it that immigration laws are strictly enforced. Why should they listen to us? We can’t even keep our own candidates in a liquid financial state. So to all of you who still believe that the notion of national sovereign borders is not an antiquated, obsolete concept, I ask you, do you enjoy the sting of defeat? How do you like being laughed at, rebuked and put back into your place by the elitists?

I also put forth the question – is it too late to reverse this negative trend? Is there still time? I believe there is time but none to waste. I welcome your comments. And who is your least-favorite GOP open borders globalist? Leave a link. DD


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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

here you go, little man. I gave you the links earlier. I’ll refer you to it again.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1927363/posts?page=44#44

Try this too. Although I don’t expect you to change your mind...

“Daniel Siederaski of the Jewish Telegraph Agency tried to get an interview with Paul, calling him repeatedly but not receiving any return calls. Wrote Siederaski November 9: “Ron Paul will take money from Nazis. But he won’t take telephone calls from Jews.” [Update] Finally on November 13 the Paul campaign responded. In a short interview JTA quotes Jim Perry, head of Jews for Paul describing his work on the Paul campaign along side a self-described white supremacist which Perry says he has reformed.”

Address the Stormfront ads.... address the KKK support... the best that Paul can do is to trot out someone in his campaign to make a puny, wimpy statement? But they’ll keep the money that keeps pouring in from these racist mongrels.

And you try to defend it... and not very well, I might add.

Does he or does he not receive money from White Supremacists?
Is he still receiving money from these same people?
Why does he not return that money?
Why does he encourage the support of these people, by keeping their money and support?

Rather than insult, little man, answer the questions.


21 posted on 11/18/2007 10:17:29 PM PST by sofaman ("This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave.")
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To: stephenjohnbanker
The GOP and White House did not back him at all! Rove treated him like dirt.

That being said, no one in DC had a vote in J.D.'s election. If he didn't convince the folks in his own state, who he had represented for years, I doubt even if the folks in DC supported him, he'd have had a chance.

22 posted on 11/18/2007 10:22:58 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: incindiary
you're telling me that there was concerted and organized support for pres Bush by white supremacists? Please provide the links for this brilliant observation... so that I can take your post seriously.

I do find your post amusing though. Ron Paul is receiving sizable support, relative to the size of his campaign, from Stormfronters and KKK members, as well as 9/11 Truthers and assorted other human debris. Racists, Jew-haters and kooks.

But those opposed to Paul are "obsessed haters". Yet Paul accepts the support of the real haters.

23 posted on 11/18/2007 10:24:45 PM PST by sofaman ("This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave.")
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To: stephenjohnbanker
The GOP and White House did not back him at all! Rove treated him like dirt.

The Whitehouse didn't vote for his opponent, members of the 5th district in Arizona did. It's getting to where it's no longer amusing to read about how the GOP selects candidates and the poor voters don't have a choice. BS, the voters decide every election, both in the primaries and the general election.

24 posted on 11/18/2007 10:28:25 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If you are saying that you think Ron Paul could unite the Party, I would strongly disagree. Ron Paul is doing a lot of harm to the Republican party and to the conservative, consitutionalist cause generally, by making it appear that to be a consitutionalist you must first be a raving nutter bent on national suicide.


25 posted on 11/18/2007 10:31:40 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Darvin Dowdy
2008 will be the coming-out year for the Republican Party. They will leave no doubt in anyone’s mind they are the liberal twin of the liberal Democratic Party. They always have been, and sometimes do the dirty work that Democrats found so difficult.

Need bigger government, more spending, larger deficits, leave the heavy jobs to the Republicans.

26 posted on 11/18/2007 10:32:14 PM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: incindiary

Tuesday, October 30, 2007
Neo-Nazi Leader Organizing Ron Paul Youtube “gaming”
According to the racist website, VNN forum, neo-Nazi leader Will Williams (aka “White Will”) is organizing another in a series of Ron Paul internet dirty tricks of the sort that have distorted cable news snap poll results


27 posted on 11/18/2007 10:32:54 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: SuziQ

“I doubt even if the folks in DC supported him, he’d have had a chance.”

Well, we will never know.


28 posted on 11/18/2007 10:33:47 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: sofaman
All of that has been debunked in millions of other Paul threads before.

"Get away from me boy, you're bothering me..."

29 posted on 11/18/2007 10:37:47 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: sofaman
Don't try adding to my words, I said what I said, either respond to THAT, or not at all.

Furthermore, I think it's funny and pathetic that you guys choose to ignore the large number (and growing exponentially) of regular, decent Americans who support Dr. Paul and instead try to paint the picture that his support is only from the far fringes... You would do well to work for the Clinton campaign, with the vicious way you attack those who threaten you, with distortions and smears.

Give it a rest, why don't you promote your own candidate instead of obsessing over someone who many of you keep saying has no chance to win.

30 posted on 11/18/2007 10:42:47 PM PST by incindiary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDqneN4weE)
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To: John Valentine
If you are saying that you think Ron Paul could unite the Party, I would strongly disagree. Ron Paul is doing a lot of harm to the Republican party and to the conservative, consitutionalist cause generally, by making it appear that to be a consitutionalist you must first be a raving nutter bent on national suicide.

Only Paul has a coalition of libertarians, swing, independent, and new voters supporting him, in addition to conservatives frustrated over Bush and the GOP.

All of the other GOP candidates are chasing after the same dwindling number of religious & pro-Bush conservatives. The election dynamics have changed, the old left-vs-right base isn't going to cut it. Huge number of folks out there disgusted with both parties and hungry for real change. I'm not saying Paul will win, but so far he's the only candidate who has tapped into this discontent, which may influence the general election.

31 posted on 11/18/2007 10:44:38 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

October 27, 2007
Ron Paul Watch: Neo-Nazi Leader Don Black Donates to Ron Paul

http://flapsblog.com/?p=5793

words and pictures


32 posted on 11/18/2007 10:45:40 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: SoCalPol
Just look at all these horrible people! Such anti-Americans! Egads!!!
33 posted on 11/18/2007 10:49:24 PM PST by incindiary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDqneN4weE)
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To: incindiary
Give it a rest, why don't you promote your own candidate

Because their "candidate" doesn't have ordinary folks writing signs and spending their own time and their own money volunteering for said candidate's campaign. FReepers are hypocrites. For years, they whined about the "sheeple" not taking part in politics but along comes Paul and now they're complaining that they are taking part in politics, that they're "spammers" or "racists" or some other garbage. Oh the horror, people getting involved and thinking for themselves instead of being told who to vote for by the MSM and beltway types. It's all sour grapes, that's all.

34 posted on 11/18/2007 10:51:33 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: sofaman
Ron Paul is receiving sizable support, relative to the size of his campaign, from Stormfronters and KKK members, as well as 9/11 Truthers and assorted other human debris. Racists, Jew-haters and kooks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blow it out your ear pal.

35 posted on 11/18/2007 10:52:56 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: incindiary

The above photos remind me of the fresh faces at the Nuremberg rallys of the 1930s.

Gullible people being taken in by a person who has no form of reality.


36 posted on 11/18/2007 10:54:52 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t disagree that Paul is influencing the election, and I don’t think we’ve seen the half of it yet. I think he can really upset the “establishment” applecart in New Hampshire.

I also don’t disagree that he is attraacting a lot of disaffected people, especially younger people who have been frustrated by both parties, but who can’t stomach the core beliefs of the socialists/Democrats. Even if they don’t buy into everything Paul is saying, he still gives them a comfortable home.

But I can’t imagine that Paul could manage to be the nominee or get elected. I think he is a longer shot than even Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo. I’m watching his contracts trading on Intrade, and at some point, I’m going to sell short into that market. I think it will be a lock-in profit generator. But I also think that he will go higher before he goes back down, so the time for a short trade is probably not right just yet.


37 posted on 11/18/2007 11:00:35 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: SuziQ
That being said, no one in DC had a vote in J.D.'s election. If he didn't convince the folks in his own state, who he had represented for years, I doubt even if the folks in DC supported him, he'd have had a chance.

Amen! And I would say the same thing to "Darvin Dowdy". The GOP primary voters aren't just ten or twenty "globalists" doing their darndest to make sure that sparkling personalities with compelling anti-illegal positions, like Hunter and Tancredo can't get their "message" out. I happen to trust the rank and file of the GOP to make the best choice based on a combination of ideals and electability.

38 posted on 11/18/2007 11:49:52 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: incindiary; sofaman
Give it a rest, why don't you promote your own candidate instead of obsessing over someone who many of you keep saying has no chance to win.

Because promoting Rudy is hazardous to your FR account.

39 posted on 11/19/2007 6:38:32 AM PST by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I'm not saying Paul will win, but so far he's the only candidate who has tapped into this discontent, which may influence the general election.

If only you could see how reminiscent that statement is of the statements made by supporters of a particular candidate who could be summed up as a bad haircut with ears. You probably don't even realize it, but that's almost word for word of the Perot voters mantra.

40 posted on 11/19/2007 5:52:10 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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