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Rhetoric of illegal-immigration opponents is disturbing, critics say
The Sacramento Bee ^ | SUSAN FERRISS

Posted on 11/23/2007 11:45:12 AM PST by Dubya

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To: Dubya
There is no doubt that immigration is a necessary debate," said Deborah Lauter, the Anti-Defamation League's civil rights director. "But it must remain civil."

I don't consider calling someone who disagrees with you "racist" a civil form of discussion, but that is _exactly_ what we have been getting from pro-amnesty and pro-sanctuary politicians and leaders in DC and around the country.

Perhaps ADL just hasn't noticed.

:-)

It is sad what has happened to what could have been a great organization fighting against bigotry. Today they are one of its primary enablers.
21 posted on 11/23/2007 12:57:11 PM PST by cgbg (The fight has just begun against the bully (nanny) state.)
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To: ga medic
My daughters attend a charter school that teaches half day English and half day Chinese or Spanish. The emphasis is on acquisition of a second language for English speakers, not bilingual education for non native English speakers. I am not sure about the goals of the pre school in California. Immersion in a foreign language at a young age is a good way to learn another language and expand your mind. The proponents of bilingual education to illegals should be forced to use this approach. Immerse them in a foreign language (English) so that they learn it when they are young.
22 posted on 11/23/2007 12:59:17 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Dubya
CNN's Lou Dobbs comes under fire for what the group calls "false propaganda" about illegal immigrants and disease that he refused to recant. TV pundit Pat Buchanan is criticized for spreading xenophobia in his book, State of Siege, in which he describes Latino immigration as a mortal cultural threat.

Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, is cited by the ADL for calling illegal immigration a "slow-motion terrorist attack."

When you cannot prove what they are saying is not true, then all you have is your attack dogs. You would need to go a long way to find an organization that was a corrupt as the souther, scam little old ladies, law center.

23 posted on 11/23/2007 12:59:46 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Dubya

Rhetoric is not text. Also, it is rarely aesthetic in either sense.


24 posted on 11/23/2007 1:02:31 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Dubya

“There is no doubt that immigration is a necessary debate,” said Deborah Lauter, the Anti-Defamation League’s civil rights director. “But it must remain civil.”


Yeah, sure, civil. Is that why those who oppose illegal immigration are referred to as racists and xenophobes?


25 posted on 11/23/2007 1:05:12 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Dubya
Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, is cited by the ADL for calling illegal immigration a "slow-motion terrorist attack."

Representative King is wrong! The illegal immigrants and terrorists are trying to destroy the U.S. as quickly as possible!
26 posted on 11/23/2007 1:05:20 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Man50D

It is much slower than 9/11.


27 posted on 11/23/2007 1:14:28 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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A group of immigrants, including women and a young girl, crosses into the U.S. illegally near Nogales, Ariz.

A group of wet backs :^).

28 posted on 11/23/2007 1:16:34 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Man50D
Next step of the process, which in fact, is already underway...

The Anti-truth Telling League will be out citing for telling the truth. The cry will be, There's too much Truth Telling goin' on out thar.

29 posted on 11/23/2007 1:17:12 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes. And Vote For Mr. Duncan Hunter, America! TLWNW)
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To: Dubya
"There is no doubt that immigration is a necessary debate," said Deborah Lauter, the Anti-Defamation League's civil rights director. "But it must remain civil."

Maybe it would remain civil, if the GD, MF'n illegal-butt kissing Open Borders crowd in the government, who are charged with enforcing our laws, weren't doing everything in their (from the very top, down) power to thwart the laws and the will of the citizenry.

I got mine; you can get yours at:

30 posted on 11/23/2007 1:20:55 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (I'm not a Hyphenated-Americican; I'm a Gringo-Chinafromexistanian.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
It is much slower than 9/11.

While the death toll grows, and grows, and grows.
Nearing, by estimates, 30,000 plus since 9/11.

Representative King's notation to the Congressional Record places our Nation's death toll much higher than the number of 30,000 Americans dead since 9/11, due to murder and other crimes.

31 posted on 11/23/2007 1:24:49 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes. And Vote For Mr. Duncan Hunter, America! TLWNW)
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To: ga medic
I think the point was that this woman was advertising a preschool, not advocating open borders. Teaching another language in school is far different from supporting illegal immigration. Even when I was a little kid, there were other languages taught at school.

I agree. This lady with her preschool is not the issue or the problem. Frankly I want my kids to learn a second language so they will have the opportunity to work and travel overseas.

I want a mile high fence on our borders, employer sanctions on those who hire illegals, and deportation of illegals. I also want to terminate the anchor baby farce. However, I see nothing wrong with school kids learniong Spanish.

32 posted on 11/23/2007 1:29:58 PM PST by Maynerd (Hillary = amnesty, higher taxes,defeat in the WOT, and socialized medicine)
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To: Dubya
This is a common tactic of liberals. They declare any position they disagree with to be based on "hate" and demand that it be banned from consideration. It's like when they say that arguments against same-sex "marriage" should only be considered if they aren't "homophobic". Of course, they define all arguments against same-sex "marriage" as being "homophobic".

On immigration, the liberals are now saying that, yes, we should debate the issue, but only if we exclude arguments that are "racist" or "xenophobic". So you're free to argue against illegal aliens and mass immigration, as long as you don't mention that they're changing our culture, replacing our language, driving wages down, committing huge numbers of crimes, killing people with drunk driving, soaking up welfare and entitlements, engaging in identity theft, using fake IDs, taking over our neighborhoods, engaging in gang violence, wrecking our school system, and so forth.

Of course, once you take those arguments out of the equation, there are no sound reasons left to oppose illegal immigration or mass legal immigration. By liberal definition, any effective or good argument against their position is "racist" or "xenophobic".

33 posted on 11/23/2007 1:31:13 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Dubya
James Piereson of the Manhattan Institute ("Camelot and the Cultural Revolution: How the Assassination of John F. Kennedy Shattered American Liberalism") mentioned something in an interview.

At the time of the assassination of JFK the NY Times had two above-the-fold items. One reporting on Oswald and his known Communist connections and the other a column by James Reston opining that America was steeped in hatred and violence. The assassination was a consequence of our sorry history.

Guess which prevailed in the mainstream media. Yes, the attempts to place the blame on America especially the emerging modern conservative movement.

Let the Deconstructing of America begin!

I remember it well. It continues 24/7.

The best and brightest Bee brains are no strangers to the Reston rhetoric having spun and spiked news for decades; they even partnered with CAIR, gay activists, and "undocumented" workers to help run a popular local conservative talk show host off the air.

The same Bee brains who blamed us for 9/11 (we shared the blame, we don't try to "understand" the rest of the world).

The same Bee brains who ran article after article about "Asian bashing" during the Wen Ho Lee mishandling of highly classified documents episode. Did Lee ever live up to his agreement with DoJ?

Who cares what Bee brains feeeeeeeeeeeeeel.

34 posted on 11/23/2007 1:35:37 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Dubya

The name calling by radical socialists against the majority of Americans who simply want laws enforced is only effective as long as we care what they call us.


35 posted on 11/23/2007 1:40:13 PM PST by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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To: Dubya
The Church of Morris Dees, Southern Poverty Law Center.

Mr. Dees wanted to do good and he's done very well indeed.

Here.

36 posted on 11/23/2007 1:42:30 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: no-to-illegals

May I brag? Congressman King is MY congressman and a close personal friend.


37 posted on 11/23/2007 1:46:27 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Dubya

“Whether it’s in conversation, on Web sites or flowing from cable TV and radio talk shows, the shrillness of the anti-illegal-immigration debate has become disturbing, say groups that monitor hate speech.”

This debate has been shrill and defamatory for years; shrill and defamatory almost exclusively from the open borders/pro illegal crowd. Any mention of enforcing our laws brought quick slurs of racist, xenophobe, you can’t built a wall around America and other nonsense.

But now that those who believe laws should be enforced have begun to raise their voices, the “Sacramento Bee” and other MSM hypocrites and liars are suddenly alarmed at the shrillness of the debate. Ignore these pathetic hypocrites.


38 posted on 11/23/2007 1:58:53 PM PST by Will88
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Wonderful! You truly have a Great Man representing you.... and no I do not consider your post 'bragging'. I truly consider you lucky to have such a Great Spokesperson in the House to Represent You.

Please forgive me for going on and on and on.....but there is a Nation at stake here (OURS) and I know your Congressman knows that too.....say Hello for me and ask him to continue the Good Fight, Representative King, has always fought.....(smile)

39 posted on 11/23/2007 2:03:07 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes. And Vote For Mr. Duncan Hunter, America! TLWNW)
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To: Dubya
Anybody who doesn't understand by now that the USA is being invaded, is either a fool, or supports the invaders.

U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


40 posted on 11/23/2007 2:17:25 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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