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$11 million verdict brings scrutiny of Phelps finances
Kansas City Star ^ | 11/24/07 | David Klepper

Posted on 11/24/2007 7:44:20 AM PST by Non-Sequitur

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To: CRBDeuce
What’s a FReep

A FReep is when a bunch of Free Republic members put their keyboards down, go out the door, and physically converge on a place to protest something or other. For example DC Chapter's Freep of Code Pink

41 posted on 11/24/2007 9:05:48 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Fishtalk

I read your blog, Fishtalk. I agree with your observations. Where is this church getting the money to fly all over the country? Who is bankrolling them?

They do appear to be caricatures of how the left sees fundamentalist Christians.


42 posted on 11/24/2007 9:08:32 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Fishtalk

bkmarking your blog link for later. : )


43 posted on 11/24/2007 9:09:27 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: CitizenUSA
How would that relate?

I did not mention violence. They could simply talk about what they like to do to children, to the children.

They could hold signs with flowers and slogans about "teaching" children things they "need to know".

Please refrain from providing definitions to words not in my posts. Try simply answering the post without emulating a Clinton.

44 posted on 11/24/2007 9:10:57 AM PST by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: CitizenUSA
They are disgusting slugs, but when did the 1st Amendment start prohibiting speech we don’t agree with? This isn’t like the case of shouting fire in a crowded theater. Public safety isn’t at risk, nor is Fred Phelps advocating (to my knowledge) illegal activities. Opinions?

IIRC .. this was a civil suite case and not a governement case

45 posted on 11/24/2007 9:15:21 AM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: CitizenUSA

“They are disgusting slugs, but when did the 1st Amendment start prohibiting speech we don’t agree with? “

1st amendment may protect their right to say whatever they want. It does not protect them from public condemnation.

If they did their dirty deed anyplace other than a funeral it would be distasteful but not (IMO) criminal. By doing it at the funerals they are causing emotional distress to the families. I’m ok with the 11 million and hope the life of this family is pure misery.


46 posted on 11/24/2007 9:15:47 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: CitizenUSA

“Evil, despicable people—no doubt. However, we let neo-Nazis march in Skokie. Do we have the right to prevent speech we find hateful or disgusting?”

Do the neo-nazi’s march at funerals celebrating the deaths of American heros?


47 posted on 11/24/2007 9:16:49 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: CitizenUSA
"Are you saying I should be hateful and/or advocate violence against Fred Phelps and his so-called church?"

I would opine that your postings on this forum appear to indicate that you seem to have as great a craving for attention as does Fred Phelps. Why else would you attempt to provoke the other members in such a fashion, and "in the name of Christianity".

48 posted on 11/24/2007 9:20:28 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: bert

bert wrote: “I think the judgement was against the people.”

Either the article doesn’t say or I missed it. Apparently it’s a church of lawyers who know exactly how to use the law. There’s a quote from one of them saying they know how to obey the laws concerning protests, so I wonder what the $11 million judgment was for. I can understand a jury wanting to punish Fred Phelps, but it will only end up helping them if they win the case and counter sue for legal expenses on appeal.


49 posted on 11/24/2007 9:21:41 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Eaker

“They could simply talk about what they like to do to children, to the children.”

That would be assault. It creates fear in the children that they would be attacked by the pedophiles.

“Please refrain from providing definitions to words not in my posts. Try simply answering the post without emulating a Clinton.”

Please refrain from personal attacks. I’m not “emulating a Clinton.”


50 posted on 11/24/2007 9:24:33 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Mo1; CitizenUSA

“IIRC .. this was a civil suite case and not a governement case”

You are correct.

And the First Ammendment and ‘free speech’ have nothing to do with it.

If this were the Government sueing the Phelps, that would be a different story.

No ‘free speech’ violations occurred in this case.


51 posted on 11/24/2007 9:26:22 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: everyone

It was a CIVIL lawsuit claiming damages. To understand why the plaintiff won, you’d have to read the complaint and the court transcript — or find an account in the news that explains the basis for the suit.


52 posted on 11/24/2007 9:26:32 AM PST by Technical Editor
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To: Mo1

Mo1 wrote: “this was a civil suite case and not a governement (sic) case.”

Please explain. Do you know how the jury arrived at the $11 million amount? Unfortunately, the article doesn’t have a lot of the legal details.


53 posted on 11/24/2007 9:27:19 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: MaryFromMichigan

I have seen a couple people from this group and they have this look in their eye,evil!


54 posted on 11/24/2007 9:29:03 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: CitizenUSA; Eaker

Yes you are.
Eaker said nothing about assault or battery.
How about reading his post again?
And no, telling you that you are off track and pulling a Clinton is not a personal attack.


55 posted on 11/24/2007 9:31:50 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: CitizenUSA
Are you saying if this group was saying nasty things about Muslims there would not be any court action? They took the people to court when the passengers of the plane of the 6 Imams reported suspicious behavior on the plane.
56 posted on 11/24/2007 9:34:59 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: CitizenUSA

They don’t have the right to slander and libel people without consequence.


57 posted on 11/24/2007 9:35:06 AM PST by CajunConservative (They can either go quietly or they can go loudly but either way they will go. Bobby Jindal)
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To: Redleg Duke

Redleg Duke wrote: “I would opine that your postings on this forum appear to indicate that you seem to have as great a craving for attention as does Fred Phelps.”

Actually, I thought this was a discussion forum, i.e. for discussing the news. I enjoy debate and find this to be an interesting case about 1st Amendment rights.

I didn’t know I was to refrain from discussing things you disagree with, but I do ask you to stop the personal attacks. Equating me to Fred Phelps is uncalled for.


58 posted on 11/24/2007 9:37:25 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: CitizenUSA; Redleg Duke

Slander and libel are not protected by the First Amendment.
the Phelps just learned that to the tune of 11 mil.
What is so hard to understand about that?


59 posted on 11/24/2007 9:38:48 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
It’s not just homosexuals and families of fallen soldiers who have felt Phelps’ scorn. Over the years, Westboro has condemned the pope, Jerry Seinfeld, Santa Claus, Mister Rogers and the entire nation of Sweden.

Sweden? My God! How low will these people go??

60 posted on 11/24/2007 9:40:48 AM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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