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Hillary, Obama and the Cult of Alinsky
Poe.com ^ | November 26, 2007 | Richard Lawrence Poe

Posted on 11/26/2007 4:23:00 PM PST by Richard Poe

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To: Richard Poe

the loathsome Alinsky...

21 posted on 11/26/2007 5:35:08 PM PST by Bobalu (I guess I done see'd that varmint for the last time....)
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To: tanuki
However, the moment the message loses its protective bubble, that is to say its obsessive situational control, it falls apart.

Which is why for Hillary control is everything. She hitched her wagon to Bill Clinton's star to be able to stay in control behind the scenes, unexposed and not subject to scrutiny. She ran for Senator in a state that is perhaps the most 'Rat of all 'Rat states. Hillary knew from the get-go that she could control the "tough" NY press which, when it came to Hillary, went from tiger to pussycat. Now she'll hide behind the gender-victim-group identity cards if anything tough happens on the campaign trail.

When Hillary is seated behind that desk at 1600, one of the first things she;ll do is reassert control of the media by liberals. That means the "Fairness Doctrine" makes a comeback. Then she'll move for government regulation of the Internet. Remember what she said when Drudge broke the Lewinsky scandal after Newsweak spiked it? Something about how the Internet needed "professional monitors", or something like that.

It simply cannot challenge another position on an intellectual or pragmatic level, even when it is on sound ground.

Which is why you see the tactics you do today in "debates" on college campuses for people like Horowitz and Coulter. They can't cogently argue, so they shout down and sometimes physically attack their opposition. Classic Alinsky-socialism-Marxism.

22 posted on 11/26/2007 5:55:44 PM PST by chimera
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To: chimera

“Which is why you see the tactics you do today in “debates” on college campuses for people like Horowitz and Coulter. They can’t cogently argue, so they shout down and sometimes physically attack their opposition. Classic Alinsky-socialism-Marxism.”

Yeah, Alinskyism explains a lot of what many of have witnessed. Hopefully, we now have the guts to call the emotional terrorists on their game. The victim card ain’t working real well for Hillary. May she and hers continue in this and other veins of action.


23 posted on 11/26/2007 6:04:42 PM PST by tanuki (u)
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To: Richard Poe
While I agree with your thesis about Obama, and especially Clinton, about being disciples of Alinsky, somehow I am more bothered that average Americans are totally blind and completely incapable of being able to discern - at all - the abject peril these modern day dark apostles seek to reign upon this nation.
24 posted on 11/26/2007 6:07:42 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: chimera
I just watched an "award-winning" (i.e., PC approved) documentary on the Weather Underground. It was essentially a piece to set the table for the future, for such as Hilary.

An interesting point in the movie was the failure of these drugged/sexed-out leftist folks was their inability to bring in the "blue collar youth" into their movement to overthrow the US gov't. They couldn't understand why people who worked for a living and cared for their families didn't recognize their own "oppression" and just join in their little part of the global revolution.

They interview these nuts as baby boomers, and they are totally unrepentant (and well paid in the non-profit world and in academia, busy brainwashing away), still reprobate, and are extremely optimistic about the future of the communist revolution in America. Seeing Hilary's and/or Obama's progress, makes one wonder what they know that we don't.

Then, reading this about Alinsky solves it all for me.

25 posted on 11/26/2007 6:09:10 PM PST by elk
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To: potlatch; Richard Poe; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; Liz; Seadog Bytes; ...

26 posted on 11/26/2007 6:16:58 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve

And Hillary is now the ‘expert’ on that and Obama is taking lessons from her!


27 posted on 11/26/2007 6:24:36 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: Carry_Okie
What Alinsky means by this "feeling for and with the people" is simply how much one person really cares about people unlike himself. He illustrates the feeling by a series of examples in which he poses questions such as: So you are a white, native-born Protestant. Do you like people?

... feeling ... poses ... lots of material to work with. :) Probably best to keep it simple by simply answering Mrs Clinton's question with my own rhetorical question.

So you are a white, native-born Atheist progressive. Do you like conservative people?


Our two home-educated girls wrote a better research paper than Hillary did at Wellesley. At the time they were 12 & 13.

Although Hillary's paper starts with a strong active voice it soon degenerates into a rather simple gruel of matter-of-fact statements peppered with mind numbing third person passives and the odd Chomsky-ism thrown in for brownie points.

OTOH your daughters maintain an active voice throughout making it a delight to read. Well done!


I am becoming increasingly convinced that the wealthy, powerful, and somewhat archaic media conglomerates that have controlled the messaging to America for so long are beginning to crumble. As they begin to deteriorate under the weight of a more democratic media system, opportunities to infiltrate the pervasive and corrupt lies and spread truth in love are becoming abundant. As America continues to grow fatigued and sluggish from decades of the mainstream media's preaching of godlessness, bright lights are beginning to shine in the most unlikely media places. And like any small light in a pitch black room, the effect will be unmistakable. - Brian Fisher, Coral Ridge Ministries

28 posted on 11/26/2007 6:46:38 PM PST by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: Richard Poe


Hillary Clinton's Radical Summer -A Season of Love and Leftists

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29 posted on 11/26/2007 6:51:44 PM PST by OESY
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To: OESY

she has the most hideous taste in clothes.


30 posted on 11/26/2007 6:53:27 PM PST by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
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To: Richard Poe

Thanks for the ping and your article/research. I was not aware of Barack’s ties to Alinsky. BTTT!


31 posted on 11/26/2007 6:58:52 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Richard Poe

Since the ‘60’s many of us here have been fighting this battle. I’m grateful that good Americans like you and David Horowitz, et al, know what’s ahead if either of those two are elected.

FR will be shut down, Rush will be “balanced” with liberal double speak, and we’ll all be forced underground. God help us, because “our” government will roll over us like a steamroller.


32 posted on 11/26/2007 8:58:58 PM PST by Humidston (Whatever happened to the "Melting Pot?")
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To: Richard Poe

Thanks for the ping!


33 posted on 11/26/2007 9:08:38 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Richard Poe; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks Richard.


34 posted on 11/26/2007 10:31:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Richard Poe

Great work.


35 posted on 11/26/2007 10:39:46 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With "conservatives" like these, who needs liberals??)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; Calpernia; Founding Father; milford421; LibertyRocks

Ping.


36 posted on 11/27/2007 1:47:48 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (This is "Be an Angel Day", do something nice for someone today.)
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To: Richard Poe

BTTT


37 posted on 11/27/2007 2:56:08 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Richard Poe

Leon Trotsky lives!


38 posted on 11/27/2007 5:01:52 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: tanuki; elk
The cult of Alinsky runs like a common thread through the mindset of modern-era Lenins like Hillary and Obama. Hillary is a dyed-in-the-wool 1960s radical. She's tried to gussy it up a bit with a faux dash of "centrism" and "triangulation" (which is exactly what Alinsky preaches they should do to make their radical core more palatable to "the masses" as well as well-heeled and connected useful idiots).

Obama is more the post-1960s radical whose approach is more Fabian socialism. For that reason, he could be the more dangerous of the two in terms of presenting a "pretty picture" and seeming more charming and acceptable and approachable than the more dogmatic and ruthless Hillary. But then again, Hillary may destroy him before he gets too far.

39 posted on 11/27/2007 5:47:23 AM PST by chimera
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To: woollyone

self-ping for later read


40 posted on 11/27/2007 6:47:26 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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