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The void: Imprint of another universe?
New Scientist ^ | 11/24/07 | Marcus Chown

Posted on 11/27/2007 8:06:25 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

The void: Imprint of another universe?

24 November 2007

Marcus Chown

Magazine issue 2631

IN AUGUST, radio astronomers announced that they had found an enormous hole in the universe. Nearly a billion light years across, the void lies in the constellation Eridanus and has far fewer stars, gas and galaxies than usual. It is bigger than anyone imagined possible and is beyond the present understanding of cosmology. What could cause such a gaping hole? One team of physicists has a breathtaking explanation: "It is the unmistakable imprint of another universe beyond the edge of our own," says Laura Mersini-Houghton of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

It is a staggering claim. If Mersini-Houghton's team is right, the giant void is the first experimental evidence for another universe. It would also vindicate string theory, our most promising understanding of how the universe works at its most fundamental level. And it would do away with the anthropic arguments that have plagued string theorists in ...

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: stringtheory; universe; void; wackytobacky
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To: redpoll

Yes, GOD did create the universe as a form of self sacrifice, going on faith alone, in the face of hostility from HIS pharisees, the 24 elders. As to the 80% to 65% “hole”, in the book of JOB(I think)is the phrase : and the morning stars sang together. That means that a few million years after the radiation/decoupling era at 300,000 years there formed many massive stars that quickly went supernova. The resulting shock waves thru the H/He gas created the soap bubble texture we see today(galaxies on the walls of the shock wave bubbles).

Thus that 1 B LY wide hole is from the first supernova to blow, we don’t need outre “other universes” theories to explain it(Occams Razor). As to “dark matter”, see blacklightpower.com : it is nothing more than shrunken hydrogen atoms/molecules(hydrinos)that are naturally produced by stars as their “smog”. The spectrographic lines of hydrinos are right there in the solar spectrum, exactly where Dr Mills theory says they should be.

As to “strings”, the UPA(Ultimate Physical Atom)or the subquark was seen by Ledbetter and Bezant, using micro-psi, from the 1910s thru the 1930s. It is an involuting/evoluting torus composed of 10 lines(or strings), 3 bright white, 7 fainter rainbow colored lines, 2.5 turns thru the central solenoid coil winding and the same outside.

As the bard said : the universe is not only stranger than you think, it’s stranger than you CAN think. This void suggesting other universes will go the way of so many other wild theories....


81 posted on 11/28/2007 1:26:47 AM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bookmark


82 posted on 11/28/2007 1:59:19 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Hunterite
Wouldn't antimatter release light just like normal matter does?

anti-light

it's an endarkened theory, as opposed to an enlightened one.

83 posted on 11/28/2007 2:58:12 AM PST by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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To: Phsstpok

antimatter is suppose to behave like normal matter, they just shouldn’t touch eachother.


84 posted on 11/28/2007 3:44:09 AM PST by Hunterite
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Where can we exchange it for one without a hole?


85 posted on 11/28/2007 3:48:45 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: TigerLikesRooster

As long as this is atributable to “random” chance, and not God. . the ACLU will be happy!


86 posted on 11/28/2007 3:54:10 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: timer
As the bard said : the universe is not only stranger than you think, it’s stranger than you CAN think.

Heisenberg was a bard?

87 posted on 11/28/2007 4:08:42 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bump


88 posted on 11/28/2007 4:09:39 AM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Coyoteman
Tiger, thanks for the ping!

...Coyote, has Rades at The Other SiteTM weighed in on this?

Cheers!

89 posted on 11/28/2007 4:18:08 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: xjcsa
Can anyone explain why this would be defined as a separate universe, rather than both being part of one big universe? This seems to stretch the definition of the term.
I'm no physicist by I like the explanation given by Alan Guth in his book The Inflationary Universe: The Quest for a New Theory of Cosmic Origins.

It goes something like this:

Imagine a flat sheet of rubber, like the rubber of an inner-tube, stretched out over a wide area. The surface of this rubber is marred by a series of little bubbles, like balloons of rubber poking up from the surface. Each one of those balloons is a big bang, like our own big bang. Inside a single big bang, such as our own, are all the stars and energy and matter and space that we can see and detect: a single universe. The entire sheet, with its infinite series of big bangs, Guth calls the cosmos.

The choice of words -- calling an individual big bang a universe and the entire set of big bangs the cosmos -- is merely semantics, but the concept doesn't depend on your choice of terminology, just the idea that all that we see is contained in one bubble and that there are other bubbles "elsewhere".

Until now, I always thought this concept of multiple big bangs was unprovable, since Guth says there can be no communication between them.

For some reason, which is beyond me, this discovery of a void has some physicists saying that another big bang -- another universe -- is detectable.

To me, it's all pretty interesting stuff and I follow it with an open mind.

90 posted on 11/28/2007 4:33:36 AM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Fascinating!


91 posted on 11/28/2007 4:42:35 AM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bttt


92 posted on 11/28/2007 6:46:42 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: new cruelty
I wonder who's more insignificant....

Kidding right back at ya.

93 posted on 11/28/2007 7:13:57 AM PST by Defiant ("Expectorate" has Specter in it.)
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To: Defiant
Well, I know I have a bigger void. Wait.. that doesn't sound right.
94 posted on 11/28/2007 7:47:01 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: Caesar Soze
I was referring to Shakespeare. Heisenberg got a few things wrong, as in his "delta momentum" term in his HUP. DELTA means a rate of change, MOMENTUM means no change of state; thus it is an oxymoron. The correct formula is h = dPv x dWs or the quantum area(h)is defined by an abscissa increment(dPv)and an ordinate increment(dWs). Momentum is the 45 deg line up to the right in quadrant I of the graph. Inertial mass is the stairway below the momentum Diagonal line(D line)and gravitational mass is the stairway above the D line. Now, where did this "delta momentum" mistake begin? ans : Simon DeLa Place(1827) : Energy is velocity by momentum. Then Planck(1900) : the quantum area h is defined by p x q, where q is his term for momentum, taking his que from DeLa Place. Then Werner Heisenberg(1927) : h = dPv x dM or h = dWs x dM. If you are a Quantum physicist you would be familiar with all of this history. And yet, if all else fails(as it is said in physics), go back to NEWTON. His first law : an object(collection of fermions)will continue moving in a straight line(local momentum state for the object, IT doesn't know it's changing globally)until an external force is impressed upon it(mass change). Potential Energy(Momentum) = mv and Kinetic Energy(mass) = mv^2/2...differential and integral. Thus there is a "hidden v/2" in Momentum as it is in a balanced, unchanging(W=P)state until there is an unbalanced, changing(W>P or WP-deceleration/weight or W
95 posted on 11/28/2007 10:10:17 AM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
It would also vindicate string theory, ...

Right. In spite of having to fudge the theory every couple of years when no new particles or folded up dimensions are ever found.

That being said, nice post!

96 posted on 11/28/2007 10:13:59 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: geopyg

Thanks bud! My faith in our creator and my scientific understanding of His universe work well together.


97 posted on 11/28/2007 11:31:27 AM PST by redpoll
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To: new cruelty
was gas 3.00 a gallon there, too?

Worse than that! They had a Bill & Hillary Clinton too!

98 posted on 11/28/2007 2:28:03 PM PST by mtg
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To: Hunterite

“Wouldn’t antimatter release light just like normal matter does?”

Nah. It releases anti-light.


99 posted on 11/28/2007 3:16:07 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: Phsstpok

You beat me to it!


100 posted on 11/28/2007 3:20:18 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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