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Exxon says film may lead to car battery like laptop's
Houston Chronicle ^
| Nov. 27, 2007
| BRETT CLANTON
Posted on 11/28/2007 4:12:21 AM PST by thackney
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To: thackney
“”I thought you basic doubt was the ability to have an automobile powered by a battery. That has been done quite a while ago. The Tesla’s range is 245 miles. This battery is just an improvement.””
No the basic issue is that exxon is claiming that they can downsize a car battery to the size of a PC’s battery. That simpley can’t happen without a loss of range (miles per recharge). The film allows for more anodes and cathose which will give batteries more short-term power (better acceleration) but the need is still there for all of the chemicals that have the ions.
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:14:40 AM PST
by
NRG1973
To: thackney
Today, most vehicles have toaster-sized nickel-metal hydride batteries under the hood.
Wouldn't this statement be true only for electric and/or hybrid vehicles? Most vehicles have toaster-sized lead-acid batteries under the hood.
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:14:40 AM PST
by
chrisser
(Sometimes it’s hard to tell the difference between “conservation” and the neutron bomb.”- Mark Steyn)
To: thackney
They're missing the real story, which is this: this invention has been locked away for years in an underground vault, 10 stories beneath ground level at Exxon's headquarters. An intern screwed up and released it to the world, causing panic in oil company boardrooms and in the inner precincts of the Trilateral Commission.
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:15:26 AM PST
by
Steely Tom
(Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
To: NRG1973
Am I the only one thats skeptical about this? No. If this technology was any good the press release would have been saved for when it was about to hit the market.
Whatever happened to Caterpillar's new battery technology it was making a big deal about a couple of years ago?
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:15:36 AM PST
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: chilepepper
To: thackney
Today, most vehicles have toaster-sized nickel-metal hydride batteries under the hood.... Is this true?.........I could have sworn mine was Lead-Acid..........
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:19:48 AM PST
by
Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
To: NRG1973
That is ions must attach themselves to anodes and cathoses. I attached myself to a cathouse once...........
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:21:13 AM PST
by
Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
To: NRG1973
You still haven’t addressed the basic issue...its the chemicals that contain the ions that need to be greater in size...not the anodes and cathodes. Thats why you can’t downsize the batteries. Firefly Technologies, a subsidiary of Caterpillar has alleviated this problem. The increased the surface areas of the plates in the batteries using a graphite foam instead of the usual metal plates. See link: http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=204&Itemid=89
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:26:54 AM PST
by
Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
To: Labyrinthos
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11/28/2007 5:28:36 AM PST
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C210N
To: NRG1973
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:29:38 AM PST
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Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
To: Moonman62
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:32:30 AM PST
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Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
To: Steely Tom
An intern screwed up and released it to the world, causing panic in oil company boardrooms and in the inner precincts of the Trilateral Commission. No, no, no , no! What tin-foil hat are YOU wearing today?.............It's the Bildeburgers, silly!..............
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:34:54 AM PST
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Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
To: thackney; RedStateRocker; Dementon; eraser2005; Calpernia; DTogo; Maelstrom; Yehuda; babble-on; ...
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To: YoungHickey
But will they have any power? You can't beat electricity for flat-out raw power........I=E/R
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:37:01 AM PST
by
Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
To: chilepepper
A car battery like a laptop battery! Thats just great, so now we will have cars that explode or catch fire? And gas can't explode or catch fire? Come on now. That statement doesn't hold any water.
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:38:17 AM PST
by
Conservative_Jedi
(Give me Liberty or give me Death!!)
To: Red Badger
The company said the Firefly Group 31 battery will be initially available next summer with full production scheduled for the fourth quarter of 2008.
Promises, promises.
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:39:15 AM PST
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Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: Moonman62
That’s pretty fast for a new technology of that type to hit the streets............
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:46:23 AM PST
by
Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
To: Red Badger
It's the Bildeburgers, silly!..............Can't believe you said that out loud!
Oh well...it's been nice knowing you.
To: C210N
To: PBRSTREETGANG
Not to worry. I have my whole house wrapped in tin-foil............
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posted on
11/28/2007 5:49:28 AM PST
by
Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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