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Former generals, admirals question military gay policy
Stars and Stripes ^ | December 1, 2007 | staff reporter

Posted on 12/02/2007 4:35:26 AM PST by Daffynition

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To: Daffynition

Sounds like all of them are desk jockeys.

If any were awarded meadals it was a john kerry style of a medal to get rid of an incompetent.

As for the “stature” comment...

He seemed to creat a bosnian bloodbath quite well.

This only points out we need to go BACK TO the DO ask and DO expel.


21 posted on 12/02/2007 5:08:49 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cgbg

Having been a reservist, I don’t agree with your smaller NG points. I do however think many NG Generals are promoted because of political connections to the Governors.


22 posted on 12/02/2007 5:09:05 AM PST by steve8714 (The last actor elected POTUS turned out OK.)
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To: Daffynition

I respectfully ask this: How many retired Generals are there in the US Armed Forces? I have tried to get some estimate, and couldnt... does anyone have an estimate?
If there are 10s of thousands, well I could probably find 50 that would endorse anything.


23 posted on 12/02/2007 5:10:58 AM PST by John Felix
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To: Nextrush

I ‘would’ bet on it too


24 posted on 12/02/2007 5:11:39 AM PST by sure_fine (• " not one to over kill the thought process " •)
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To: Daffynition

I may be wrong, but I don’t see the names of Wesley “Perfumed Prince” Clark and Paul “Walking Small” Eaton. They’re cinched-up to Ms. Hillary’s apron strings so what is their (ahem) position?


25 posted on 12/02/2007 5:12:00 AM PST by paddles
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To: Non-Sequitur

There are few secrets aboard a warship.


26 posted on 12/02/2007 5:13:01 AM PST by Jacquerie (Navy 38 Army3)
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To: Daffynition
...“scholarly data show” that 65,000 gay men and lesbians now serve...

BS. It's not that high.

I want to see the "scholarly data". I'll bet it's from some gay "rights" organization.

27 posted on 12/02/2007 5:19:05 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Daffynition

Personally I want to thank CNN for ambushing the GOP candidates with this issue once again for all to see that the liberals have absolutely nothing to bring to the table but the past...

There is no future with these shlups, and to have their dogs bring it up again illustrates this point...

One thing after serving our country “in the trenches” so to speak is really kinda funny when you get right down to it...

Not once during the whole debate about homosexuals serving in the armed forces for this country was any rank and file interviewd or testified before congress or given a chance to tell what it is “we” would have to face either way, hoew this issue really was going to be handled...

I personally knew of only one person that was in my “division/department” while I was in the fleet...And that person never admitted, or demonstrated anything but professionalism and integrity to the job...Do I excuse his desires or tendencies??? No, did I approve??? No...

Having said all of this, those of us who have served and are serving (rank and file) know why this is a serious issue, but also we are smart enough, more than any politician, and sometimes even all of these flag officers know what the problems are with this...

It has nothing to do with the socio-interaction between heterosexual and homosexual service members...As much as this is what the politicians want to engineer into the armed services of this country...

The prevalence of adverse medical conditions is what the risks are with allowing this to continue to be a wink wink nod nod issue in the armed services...Plain and simple...Albiet it is a slower transference of conditions because units (especially Navy) your emergency blood supply is the guy or gal right next to you...And thats just the first of a few I could rattle off, but I’ll let y’all figure out the rest...

Soi thats why after years I have to publically say something thats been bugging me since the 80’s...

No one wants to get the opinion of those who are directly going to have to deal with this issue, and not a bunch of desk jockeys (with all due respect!) And the three flag officers I have served with in the past, who know me personally, would agree with me on this...

Adm. Rodney Rempt

Adm. William Sutton

This is never going to be an issue that warrants the amount of time and hand0wringing that it has due to the lack of vision by our government...I do not blame or disagree with much that the officers who have been asked to testify to this issue have done so...

It’s just another demonstration/illustration of how elected officials continue to fail the armed services of this country...


28 posted on 12/02/2007 5:19:59 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: paddles
I may be wrong, but I don’t see the names of Wesley “Perfumed Prince” Clark and Paul “Walking Small” Eaton. They’re cinched-up to Ms. Hillary’s apron strings so what is their (ahem) position?

They won't know their position until PIAPS tells them.

29 posted on 12/02/2007 5:20:36 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: wintertime; rbg81
rbg81: cause they've never served in a FAO that make you have to trust someone with your life

wintertime: Please read post #17.

Thank you. Truly.

While I believe "all" these general officers are greviously wrong-headed to advocate rescinding "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," I think it is equally wrong-headed to believe non-combat general officers have no standing and no expertise to advocate such changes.

30 posted on 12/02/2007 5:23:24 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: steve8714
Having been a reservist, I don’t agree with your smaller NG points.

Actually, those comments shocked me. We have Texans rolling in and out of Iraq and Afghanistan all the time.

Kinda thought that kind of thinking had finally been left to the left.

31 posted on 12/02/2007 5:31:13 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: PeteB570
Those who have served in the lower ranks understand that difference.

Exactly! Generals aren't the one's in the foxholes. If the sarge sends two homos to a forward observation post for the night, do you really have a forward observation post? No, but it's not the General who's in danger of being overrun.

32 posted on 12/02/2007 5:31:24 AM PST by libertylover (Liberals: Trying to convert the U.S. into a country the Founding Father's wouldn't recognize.)
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To: Jacquerie

which would explain all thos safety stand downs during the early clinton years.

I remember the first when people were falling overboard.


33 posted on 12/02/2007 5:32:04 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Jacquerie
There are few secrets aboard a warship.

I know. And when I was a division officer and any of my men missed a morning muster it was always due to booze and broads. Never ran into a single case where it was because one of my men was shacked up with another guy.

34 posted on 12/02/2007 5:38:04 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Jacquerie

I hope all the 27 live ones get HIV and take a dirt nap. They are nothing more than commies who seek to destroy our military.

You are correct Jacquerie, those 28 idiots remind me of the Spec.4 jailhouse lawyers, who know nothing about anything good for the military.

Respectfully,
NSNR


35 posted on 12/02/2007 5:38:33 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: rbg81; wintertime; Dick Vomer
Apologies to rgb81. I attributed to you in post #30 a comment made by Dick Vomer, to whom I intended the thanks and reply.

R.

36 posted on 12/02/2007 5:43:33 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: libertylover

this just ads to the bitter desk jockey observation.

They don’t know the WHY of military.


37 posted on 12/02/2007 5:43:40 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Daffynition

Many “tell” when they don’t want to keep their military obligation.

Sailor falls in love with a member of the opposite sex: Too bad, write ‘em a letter.

Faggot falls in love: Unsuitability discharge.


38 posted on 12/02/2007 5:48:28 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Truth was the first casualty in the MSM's war on President Bush.)
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To: stevie_d_64

It bears repeating:

“It’s just another demonstration/illustration of how elected officials continue to fail the armed services of this country...”


39 posted on 12/02/2007 5:48:54 AM PST by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Daffynition

Care to guess what’s going to happen if the dhimmis win in ‘08?


40 posted on 12/02/2007 5:52:27 AM PST by Pietro
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