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Does Fred Thompson Exhibit Conservative Principles?
National Ledger ^ | 12/3/2007 | Chris Davis

Posted on 12/03/2007 11:37:55 AM PST by MeanWestTexan

In "The Essence of Conservatism," Russell Kirk wrote that "a conservative is not, by definition, a selfish or a stupid person; instead, he is a person who believes there is something in our life worth saving." Conservatism is an investment in freedom, and the person that demonstrates the finest of qualities found in "The Essence of Conservatism" will help mold the future of conservatism and America.

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KEYWORDS: 2008; conservatism; conservative; election; elections; fred; fredthompson; rush; thompson
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To: MeanWestTexan
Does Fred Thompson Exhibit Conservative Principles?

Far more than the other "top tier" candidates, that's for certain.

81 posted on 12/03/2007 4:59:50 PM PST by Mr. Mojo (“Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss.")
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To: MeanWestTexan
"Is the pope Catholic?"

"Does a bear. . ."

"Is a frog's a$$ watertight?"

82 posted on 12/03/2007 5:08:46 PM PST by gbunch (Southern gun-totin' terrorist- and liberal-hatin' warm and fuzzy guy! GO FRED!)
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To: pissant

Thanks pissant. Sounds like Fred is more than meets the eye.


83 posted on 12/03/2007 5:44:53 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Go read the text of the global warming legislation, it will make your hair stand on end.


84 posted on 12/03/2007 5:50:11 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Anything could LOOK bad, if one doesn’t understand the context. Many things could be said (to expunge the full context) if I had the desire to explain, but I don’t.

A lot of people say bad things about Bush’s good policy choses e.g his medical economic perspective. But the twists and turns on his ideas are ballantly obvious to those whom dig deeper than the surface. Unfortunately a great deal of his opponents and observers...don’t go into much detail.

Pissant, while your not without merit on somethings, many of those listed aren’t worth anyones time.


85 posted on 12/03/2007 6:28:43 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Owen
We’ve been through this already. Conservative principles are far more profound and deep seated that the whimsical issues of the day — like abortion, or how a vote was cast or not cast for impeachment. Those are temporary items. Conservative principles last for centuries. They are commitment to family, marital fidelity, faith in God and seeking counsel from God.

Fred's platform is across-the-board conservative.

86 posted on 12/03/2007 6:30:12 PM PST by FreeReign
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...Fred Thompson is a Barry Goldwater movement conservative.

After reading Barry Goldwater’s “Conscience of a Conservative” in 1963, he promptly became the first Republican in his family.

- California Conservative, June 26, 2007

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Bill Kirkland, a university friend who studied law with Thompson, recalled... “He was a very conservative Republican even then. He was a huge supporter of Barry Goldwater in the 1964 presidential election.”

- Sarah Baxter, Times Online, April 15, 2007

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A preliminary look at his record suggests that while he is not quite the second coming of Barry Goldwater or Ronald Reagan, he may be much better on most issues than the alternatives.

During his eight years in the Senate, Thompson had a solid record as a fiscal conservative. The National Taxpayers Union gives him the third highest marks of any candidate (trailing only Paul and Rep. Tom Tancredo)...

He has been a consistent supporter of entitlement reform, voting to means-test Medicare and supporting personal accounts for Social Security.

His record on free trade is solid. In the past he has been supportive of comprehensive immigration reform, but has been critical of the current bill, shifting toward a “control the borders first” position...

On federalism, there may be no better candidate. His Senate record is replete with examples of his being the lone opponent of legislation that he thought undercut federalist principles. He took this position even on legislation that was otherwise supported by conservatives...

Given the fact that McCain, Romney, and Giuliani are clearly big-government conservatives, Thompson has an opportunity to seize the small-government mantle.

Michael D. Tanner, Is Fred Thompson a Small-Government Conservative?, CATO-at-Liberty.org, May 31, 2007

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In 2000, Thompson got a 92 percent favorable rating from the American Conservative Union and a zero from the liberal Americans for Democratic Action.

- Mike Allen, The Politico, March 12, 2007

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Tom Griscom, editor and publisher of the Chattanooga (Tenn.) Times-Free Press... told me: ““Look, a lot of people call him a centrist because his introduction to politics was via Howard Baker. He’s actually a lot more conservative than people realize...” With a lifetime rating of 86% from the American Conservative Union over his eight years in the Senate (1994-2002), Thompson’s record in the Senate, with few exceptions, was rather solidly conservative. His breaks from the right were almost all related to campaign finance reform issues and to tort reform.

- John Gizzi, Right Angle blog on HumanEvents.com, March 14, 2007

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“I like Fred Thompson. He was a capable senator. He is a good communicator. I disagree with him on some things, but in our ratings — I don’t have the exact number in front of me, but I think during his career in the Senate he was in the mid to upper ‘80s, which we consider solidly conservative.”

- CBS interview with American Conservative Union Leader David Keene, April 20, 2007

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While he was never a leading social conservative voice in the Senate, Thompson’s voting record during his eight years in Washington should be acceptable to anyone to the ideological right. Thompson was rated highly by conservative groups during his time in office, and surely won loyalty from conservatives when he squired Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts around Capitol Hill during his 2005 confirmation process.

- Chris Cillizza, washingtonpost.com’s Politics Blog, March 19, 2007

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A political analyst and former Democrat insider says actor and former Tennessee senator Fred Thompson is a solid conservative who would be a formidable candidate for president in 2008, should he choose to run.

Political analyst Keith Thompson says his namesake reminds him of Ronald Reagan. “He has a solid conservative voting record on issues of life, on issues of international security and national defense, the terrorism issue, the war,” says the analyst, concluding with the observation: “I don’t know of an issue that he has fallen short of in the broadly defined sort of ‘Reaganesque’ conservative mantle.”

- Chad Groening, AgapePress?, March 20, 2007

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Thompson may very well be the only true Conservative candidate if he chooses to run for the Presidency. The former Senator is pro-life, anti-gun control, pro-traditional marriage (between a man and woman), against activist judges, does not condone “special” rights for certain groups, such as gay rights, and is a firm believer in State’s rights.

- Liberally Conservative blog, March 11, 2007

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Fred Thompson is the very candidate for whom the Conservative Movement has been searching. No other candidate projects the charisma and charm, as well as the name recognition and conservative credentials to which Fred Thompson can lay claim. Like President Reagan in 1980, Fred Thompson is the true conservative leader that can take the Party forward in the 21st Century.

- Dave Hinz, The Hinz Report, March 6, 2007

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No my friends, the man who you should start supporting now, as in today, is a man of character, a man of true Conservative values...

That man, my fellow Conservatives, is Tennessee’s Fred Thompson!

- Doug Hagin, The New Media Journal, March 23, 2007

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Fred Thompson vs. the current crop of Republican candidates is like the children’s story where the three little bears find one bed too soft, one too hard, (and) unlike the current front runners Fred is “Just Right” to most conservatives on the issues. More so than any other candidate, and with the integrity of principled conviction on those issues.

I asked a very liberal acquaintance of mine recently that is an insider with Democrat Gov. Christine Gregoire of Washington that I have friendly political discussions with for his response to 3 words: *Fred Dalton Thompson* ....a serious look formed instantly on his face and he said: “I like Fred, he would be a serious candidate for you guys, I might even have to vote for him because he is one of the most genuine and real politicians I have ever seen. I have a lot of respect for him and he would make a good President.” I was dumbfounded because we had talked about other candidates before and I am convinced of his sincerity.

- Michael R. Bednarz, BednarzBlogSpot, March 18, 2007

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While Thompson wasn’t America’s greatest senator, his career is strong enough and independent enough that nobody could call him a Bush lacky but it would be hard for conservatives to dismiss him as a “RINO.” He seems just enough to the right to bring in the right wing, and just enough to the center to bring in centrists, especially as the Democrat Party continues to be bullied and drag left by the MoveOn? crowd.

- Posted by Chris on Mason Conservative, March 09, 2007

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Reagan was most conservative in the arena of national security and firm foreign policy. Reagan understood that America was the only nation in the world with the power and moral authority to defend freedom and liberty around the globe, in defense of freedom and liberty here. Reagan commanded respect across the political aisle at home and abroad and remains one of the most loved US Presidents in US history even today.

But he was somewhat liberal on social issues. Or, like Thompson, he was at least an anti-federalist who sought to return private assets and personal liberty to the states and the people at every chance. He was “compassionately conservative” so-to-speak, though not nearly as compassionate towards modern secular socialist principles as either Bush administration since.

Thompson might indeed be more ideologically similar to Reagan than either Bush. He too is very strong on national sovereignty and security, with firm views regarding Americas role in the world and the need for strong national defense and foreign policy initiatives. But he is not a believer in any world order under UN control and one must wonder about both Bush Presidents in this regard.

He clearly understands what’s at stake in the current international war against terrorism networks with world-wide reach and he seems to be much more willing than Bush to call a spade and spade when addressing the current crop of anti-American leftists working to undermine American interests in congress right now.

Combined with the fact that Thompson is a great communicator, unlike Bush, these are very valid reasons for the current excitement surrounding the prospects of a Fred Thompson candidacy.

- J.B.Williams, MichNews.com, Mar 19, 2007

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Is Fred Thompson a conservative? Human Events’ John Gizzi put that question to Tom Griscom, publisher of the Chattanooga Times-Free Press and a longtime friend of Thompson.

“When I asked him whether Thompson is a conservative, Griscom told me: ‘Look, a lot of people call him a centrist because his introduction to politics was via Howard Baker. He’s actually a lot more conservative than people realize. Fred’s not an extremist - he’d never be part of the religious right, but he’s certainly more conservative than Howard Baker.’”

Gizzi notes that Thompson has a lifetime rating of 86% from the American Conservative Union over his eight years in the Senate (1994-2002) and says “Thompson’s record in the Senate, with few exceptions, was rather solidly conservative.” The exceptions were almost all related to campaign finance reform issues and to tort reform.

- Bill Hobbs, Elephant Biz, March 16, 2007

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Fred Thompson is a Hard-Core Conservative.

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87 posted on 12/03/2007 6:32:30 PM PST by Josh Painter ("Managers are people who leaders hire." - Fred Thompson)
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To: pissant

How about a list of Duncan Hunter’s porkbarrel spending?


88 posted on 12/03/2007 6:32:43 PM PST by RockinRight (Huck supporters OPEN YOUR EYES. Socialism isn't compatible with social conservatism in the long run.)
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To: Rick_Michael

They are only not worth the time if a guys real record is somehow unimportant.

I gave the full context of the first two in post 79. The bills he actually sponsored. When you sponsor something that means you believe in it. Look at the other cosponsors. then go read the link to the text of the global warming legislation.

There is no excuse, or context that can justify this liberal claptrap POS. None.


89 posted on 12/03/2007 6:33:30 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
I see that you make no mention of Fred's positions in this campaign.

They are across-the-board conservative.

90 posted on 12/03/2007 6:33:33 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Josh Painter

Looks pretty good to me. My fiscal score is the same but my social score is at 50 - putting me right on the conservative/libertarian line.


91 posted on 12/03/2007 6:35:59 PM PST by RockinRight (Huck supporters OPEN YOUR EYES. Socialism isn't compatible with social conservatism in the long run.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Answer: Yes


92 posted on 12/03/2007 6:36:38 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: prairiebreeze

bump for AM read


93 posted on 12/03/2007 6:37:00 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Fred '08 Because our troops DESERVE BETTER than Mrs. Bill Clinton.)
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To: Josh Painter

I can find an equal number of people to give quotes on him that are unfavorable. I deal with his record.


94 posted on 12/03/2007 6:37:28 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: RockinRight

He’s got a solid record on his pork. Did you know that the entire San Diego Border fence is his pork, as is the bill to extend it through the SW? Not bad.

Now look at Fred’s pork in just the education arena:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1898585/posts


95 posted on 12/03/2007 6:44:39 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Some of us chief...have to do things. I for one have to look through FAR (Federal Aviation Regulation), and an airport directory (for an upcoming flight of mine). It will probably take me the rest of my night.

Refer to to profile for reason why.

I don’t have all the time to study online politics. Which actually sounds silly, and probably bad for ones health. I know you take these things dead serious, pissant...but you need to get away from the computer. It seems you’re always around. Maybe that’s just my perception.

I personally have come to believe that all this around us is uncontrollable to some extent. The wisest of people set-up institutions of ‘progress’, not rant about politics on forums. In all honesty, I get nothing out of telling anyone anything here. Not even this.

I’d rather be flying. Atleast I hold the controls there.


96 posted on 12/03/2007 6:51:00 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: FreeReign

Hey, if I based my decision on what a politician says when campaigning, I would say they are all fantastic. Alas, that is not the way to judge a man.


97 posted on 12/03/2007 6:51:28 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Rick_Michael

Well, someone has got to do the grunt work of getting things out in public that need to be.

If not me, than who?


98 posted on 12/03/2007 6:54:47 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Gondring

His voting record AS A WHOLE is far more conservative than the people he was in that coalition with. Perhaps it was a pragmatic choice? He wanted to actually get things done instead of butting his head against the wall trying stuff that was never going to happen?

Just a thought.


99 posted on 12/03/2007 6:55:20 PM PST by RockinRight (Huck supporters OPEN YOUR EYES. Socialism isn't compatible with social conservatism in the long run.)
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To: pissant

I think Ron Paul could be an exception to that rule though.


100 posted on 12/03/2007 6:55:42 PM PST by RockinRight (Huck supporters OPEN YOUR EYES. Socialism isn't compatible with social conservatism in the long run.)
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