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Poll: Huckabee up nationally
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | 12/8/2007 | WIRE REPORTS

Posted on 12/07/2007 11:53:05 PM PST by dano1

Mike Huckabee has vaulted from nowhere into second place in the Republican presidential race, a nationwide poll showed yesterday.

The surge by the former Arkansas governor has come with support from evangelicals, Southerners and conservatives, and largely at the expense of former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, according to the national survey by The Associated Press and Ipsos.

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani remains the front-runner at 26 percent among Republican and GOP-leaning voters, about where he has been since spring.

Huckabee has 18 percent, up from 10 percent in an AP-Ipsos survey a month ago and 3 percent in July. Arizona Sen. John McCain has 13 percent, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 12 percent and Thompson 11 percent. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

Giuliani also remains the favorite of voters age 18 to 24. In a separate Harvard University Institute of Politics poll, he has the support of 26 percent, compared with 15 percent for McCain.

Among Democrats, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was the choice of 38 percent of young voters and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton was next at 33 percent.

Obama: The Illinois senator is already reaping the benefits of Oprah Winfrey's high-wattage celebrity backing.

Thousands of Iowans have flocked to his office for tickets for two events today in Iowa. The campaign declines to say how many tickets have been distributed but says no one will be turned away from the unique opportunity to attract new voters.

Clinton: The New York senator yesterday turned to 32 former U.S. ambassadors and diplomats appointed to top positions by then-President Bill Clinton and confirmed by a Republican-led Senate to endorse her diplomatic skills as first lady.

The backers included former career diplomat Joe Wilson, the Iraq war critic who previously served as ambassador to Gabon; former Michigan Gov. James Blanchard, who served in Canada; former House Speaker Tom Foley, D-Wash., who served as ambassador in Japan, and former Sen. Walter Mondale, D-Minn., who also served in Japan.

Thompson: Campaigning in Ohio yesterday, the former Tennessee senator criticized rival Huckabee, saying it was "surprising" a presidential candidate wouldn't know about a newly released intelligence report that said Iran suspended its nuclear weapons program in 2003.

Huckabee told reporters earlier this week he was not aware of the National Intelligence Estimate report on Iran.

Thompson has been tripped up by news events himself. In September, he said he was not aware that the Supreme Court had decided to hear arguments on the constitutionality of lethal injection.

Early in his campaign, Thompson sidestepped a question about the Terri Schiavo right-to-die case, saying he didn't remember the details.

McCain: The Arizona senator yesterday said in New Hampshire that if he loses his bid for the Republican nomination, he'll return to the Senate. McCain would have two more years left in his fourth term.


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To: flaglady47

One of the more acceptable candidates doesn’t even warrant a mention in most polls or from the talking heads on TV — Duncan Hunter.

It appears the rest of the animals running for the office from both parties are flyweights I wouldn’t have hired for even the most menial management job in my prior career....

That is about as kind and unprofane a comment I can make about the “field”.....

It appears the Republic is determined to become a Third World wasteland.


21 posted on 12/08/2007 1:29:37 AM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: flaglady47

“the only one amongst the first tier candidates who actually lives a conservative lifestyle. “


Are you insane? Romney lives the life of suburban nerd, Fred lives the life of a conservative renaissance man.

Simultaneously a famous shooting sportster, starring in acting roles while quietly serving as Chair of the International Security Advisory Board during wartime.

With his vibrant young children and beautiful wife, Fred Thompson is the whole package of conservatism.


22 posted on 12/08/2007 1:39:22 AM PST by ansel12 (“Sanctuary Mansion? The savings help me to become leader of the anti-illegal worker war. Romney 08)
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To: dano1

Vote for Huckster, because the last one from Little Rock lasted for eight years...


23 posted on 12/08/2007 1:42:41 AM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: river rat

An unfortunate “ditto” to everything that you have said, and I truly hope that we end up completely wrong about these predictions. I truly hope that both Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter end up doing very well for the GOP and that true conservatism at every political level wins big on November 4, 2008!


24 posted on 12/08/2007 1:47:00 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: cdnerds

Huckabee is worse than Bob Dole.

I would at least trust Bob Dole to handle this current subprime lending situation in a logical, conservative manner.

Now, ask yourself how Huckabee would handle it? Frankly, I’d trust Obama more than I’d trust the Huckster.


25 posted on 12/08/2007 1:50:48 AM PST by VolFan008 (Wounded....but bleeding Orange! ~Nashvillian looking eastward (Anyone but Huck and Rudy!))
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To: dano1
I am having fun reading the fury on this site over Huckabee's surge. I may not agree with many of his positions but I think the guy can win BIG in a national election. He comes across as a warm guy and Republicans need one of those.

The sad reality for conservatives is Huckabee's view of the role of government is shared by a majority of voters.

This "nanny state" position is the fatal flaw of democracy. Universal suffrage ultimately results in the majority looking to take money away from the productive people and give it to the unproductive.

26 posted on 12/08/2007 2:00:33 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: dano1

Ok,the leftist mainstream media and their DNC masters are more afraid of strickly fiscal conservatives than strictly social conservatives.Makes sense since lower taxes and less spending are nightmare scenarios to them while abortion on demand,anti-Christian bigotry and public sexual perversions can be easilly protected and promulgated by their constitutionally challenged jurists.
In other words,Rudy G may let them murder babies for profit but he would cut their earmarks for profit.Bad deal,libs want it all,not to mention RG is actually electable.
Huckleberry would bang his head against an entrenched leftist judiciary and maybe save a few unborn from the slaughter-houses,but increased taxing and spending would go
unchecked.Plus the Huckster is unelectable outside Clinton country.A definite win-for the left.
So,if one is and has a record of being both a fiscal and social conservative the leftist mainstream press and polls are going to diss you—that is the current political axiom.
In online polls on conservative websites,men like Mitt,Fred and Duncan come out on top.True (fiscal and social) conservatives know their own and they alone (since they represent mainstream America)pick the GOP nominee and then the President—unless they become defeatist losers,the kind who gave Pelosi and Reid Capital Hill last year.
Remember,just like in the war on terror,the left will always tell us we are losing until we win—they know discouraging propaganda is their best weapon.
Mitt or Fred are the only electable choices we have (Duncan is great but not pretty enough).I believe that Mitt lied to Mass but is now telling the truth to the US.Fred is a true conservative even if he was a little random in his younger days.
But both their greatest endorsements is the silence and slander they get from the liberal mainstream media.Leftist press affection cost McCain,more than anything,the nomination in 2000.
When daddy tells his teen-age daughter her clothes are pretty,she knows damn well she looks like a frump.


27 posted on 12/08/2007 2:09:26 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: ansel12

If Huckabee gains much more momentum, you’re going to rue Mitt Romney. I can promise you that.

Huckabee has the whole liberal “but it’s for the children” thing down pat. But he’s pro-life, which means he’s got the sucker but Christian vote down.

Very bad news in a general election. I’d expect him to be beaten about as badly as Bush would be beatin if he ran in 2008.


28 posted on 12/08/2007 2:16:12 AM PST by VolFan008 (Wounded....but bleeding Orange! ~Nashvillian looking eastward (Anyone but Huck and Rudy!))
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To: ansel12

“Simultaneously a famous shooting sportster, starring in acting roles while quietly serving as Chair of the International Security Advisory Board during wartime.

With his vibrant young children and beautiful wife, Fred Thompson is the whole package of conservatism.”

Oh, for heaven sakes, you sound like a bad TV ad. Keep shilling for your choice though. It becomes you.


29 posted on 12/08/2007 2:22:22 AM PST by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: flaglady47

“Oh, for heaven sakes, you sound like a bad TV ad. Keep shilling for your choice though. It becomes you.”

Was something untrue?


30 posted on 12/08/2007 2:25:37 AM PST by ansel12 (“Sanctuary Mansion? The savings help me to become leader of the anti-illegal worker war. Romney 08)
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To: ansel12

“Are you insane? Romney lives the life of suburban nerd, Fred lives the life of a conservative renaissance man.”

I thought Fred Thompson lived in McLean, Virginia, and that Romney lived in New Hamsphire?

McLean, if you’ve ever been there, is the epitome of DC suburban life.

Not that it takes away from Thompson serving on committees or his lifestyle. I just thought was the wrong example to use.


31 posted on 12/08/2007 2:29:43 AM PST by VolFan008 (Wounded....but bleeding Orange! ~Nashvillian looking eastward (Anyone but Huck and Rudy!))
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To: ansel12

“Was something untrue?”

You just sound silly. Especially when you knock someone like Romney who is probably 10 times more successful in life than you have ever been. And you call him a nerd for living a conservative lifestyle, unlike Thompson who is on his second marriage and catted around with multiple women in between. He’s settle down now, but he hasn’t been a saint.


32 posted on 12/08/2007 2:30:18 AM PST by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: VolFan008

“If Huckabee gains much more momentum, you’re going to rue Mitt Romney. I can promise you that”


I know what you are saying and I think that all of this will help my candidate, but of all of the rest of them, crooks, cheaters, liberals, con men, Romney is the only true weirdo and unknown, creepy fellow in politics at this level.

Let’s face it, this Romney guy is scarier than his seemingly mirror image John Edwards.


33 posted on 12/08/2007 2:34:38 AM PST by ansel12 (“Sanctuary Mansion? The savings help me to become leader of the anti-illegal worker war. Romney 08)
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To: dano1

Huckabee won’t even be a speed bump to Hillary.


34 posted on 12/08/2007 2:36:45 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: VolFan008
I didn't mean some neighborhood classification, I meant that among men, Romney is the suburban nerd and Fred is a man. ============================================================ Image and video hosting by TinyPic
35 posted on 12/08/2007 2:39:34 AM PST by ansel12 (“Sanctuary Mansion? The savings help me to become leader of the anti-illegal worker war. Romney 08)
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To: flaglady47

“Especially when you knock someone like Romney who is probably 10 times more successful in life than you have ever been. “

I never joined a cult and I am not a liberal. I win!


36 posted on 12/08/2007 2:43:19 AM PST by ansel12 (“Sanctuary Mansion? The savings help me to become leader of the anti-illegal worker war. Romney 08)
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To: flaglady47
He’s settle down now, but he hasn’t been a saint.

Silly me. I thought we were trying to find a Presidential candidate, not a Prophet.
37 posted on 12/08/2007 2:45:35 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: NavVet

Heh :)


38 posted on 12/08/2007 2:53:29 AM PST by WildcatClan (Vote Hunter for President.)
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To: ansel12

The 4th largest church in America is hardly a cult.Faith in God and/or following the teachings of Christ is all that is necessary to belong to the Judao/Christian America the founding fathers created.
Leave the religeous bigotry to the left—they are the professionals.It is unbecomming here.


39 posted on 12/08/2007 2:56:12 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: Kozak
This election season has left no doubt in my mind that the Iowa caucuses are good only for the media. It has provided them plenty of material to fill in their 24/7 news cycle.

Thanks to the Iowa caucuses, we learn of the vital national security interest of farm subsidies...sheesh!

Just watch the drive by media sink its fangs into Huck if he does get the nomination.

As a Fredhead, I'm a bit nervous right now. Still, this nomination process is likely to continue up to the convention.

If we all agree on the importance of the smaller states in the electoral process, why can't we rotate it among all small states? Why does it absolutely have to be Iowa and New Hampshire?

40 posted on 12/08/2007 2:58:07 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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