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Colorado Church Gunman `Hated Christians'
Houston Chronicle ^ | 12-10-07 | Judith Kohler

Posted on 12/10/2007 2:24:21 PM PST by tcrlaf

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — The deadly shooting sprees at a megachurch and a missionary training school were believed to have been carried out by the same person — a 24-year-old suburban Denver man who "hated Christians," a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the investigation, identified the gunman as Matthew Murray, the son of a neurologist who is a prominent researcher on multiple sclerosis.

Five people — including a gunman — were killed, and five others wounded Sunday in the two eruptions of violence 12 hours and 65 miles apart.

The first attack took place at a youth missionary training center in the Denver suburb of Arvata; the other happened at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, where the gunman was shot and killed by a security guard.

The law enforcement official said Murray was believed to be the gunman in both attacks. Murray did not appear to have a criminal history but "hated Christians," the official said. The official did not know Murray's religion, if any.

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To: appalachian_dweller; incindiary

That was beautiful!

Thanks for the ping, AD.


201 posted on 12/11/2007 8:30:19 AM PST by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: kalee

I’m on the thread so thought I would see if I can access it for you. The page looks messed up, but below is the text:

Church shooter wanted to be missionary
By Tom McGhee
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 12/10/2007 06:29:06 PM MST

Police describe a chaotic scene with smoke bombs going off outside the New Life Church moments before Matthew Murray began firing in a rampage that killed two and wounded three others Sunday.

Forensic evidence from the shooting at the church matches evidence found at Arvada’s Youth with a Mission, a missionary training facility, scene of an earlier shooting spree that killed two others. Murray had once been enroleld there.

Police say Murray, 24, of Englewood, was the lone gunman in both cases.

At an afternoon press conference, police described the chaos at New Life Church that began at about 1:10 p.m. Sunday.

Smoke bombs went off near two entrances to the mega-church before Murray fired his first shots.

Then Murray, who was armed with clips for 1,000 rounds of ammunition, and two hand guns, began firing an assault rifle in an corner of the parking lot.
Sisters Stephanie, 18, and Rachael Works, 16, and their father, David Works, 51, were struck. Stephanie died at the scene, and her sister died later at Penrose Hospital.

Their father was wounded in the abdomen and groin.

Murray continued to spray bullets, hitting Judy Purcell, 40, in the shoulder and striking a number of vehicles.

Murray then made his way to the church’s eastern entrance and fired several rounds through the doors. Larry Bourbannais, 59, was wounded.

Assam, who also spoke at a Colorado Springs press conference this afternoon, said she saw Murray coming through the doors, and took cover.

She then emerged and identified herself, “and I took him down.” Assam fired as many as six rounds at Murray.

Assam said she was praying to the “Holy Spirit” during the confrontation.

It is not known if Assam’s rounds killed Murray, said Colorado Springs police Sgt. Jeff Jensen. “She definitely wounded him but we don’t know if she was the cause of the fatal wound. We don’t know if there was a self-inflicted gunshot wound as well.”

Police found three weapons - the assault rifle, and two pistols, along with a backpack he carried containing ammo in clips.
The shootings after a service at the mega-church Sunday afternoon followed a bloodbath in the early morning hours at Youth With a Mission, a missionary training facility in Arvada.

Two Youth With a Mission staff members died after that shooting, and two more were wounded. Murray asked the staff to stay at the residence on the Faith Bible Chapel campus before the shootings.

When Tiffany Johnson, 26, the hospitality director, told him he wouldn’t be able to spend the night, he began shooting.

Johnson and the other staffers were going to suggest alternative places for him to stay before they were gunned down, Cheryl Morrison, wife of Faith Bible Chapel’s senior pastor said.
Johnson and Philip Crouse, 24, died after being taken to area hospitals. Dan Griebenow, 24 and Charlie Blanch, 22, were wounded.

Murray participated in a Youth With a Mission training program 5 years ago but his health barred him from doing field work and going further with the program, YWaM director Peter Warren said at a separate press conference in Arvada.

In the past few weeks, he sent string of messages expressing his discontent about the program to the program and its director, authorities said.

Earlier today, a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity said it appeared Murray “hated Christians.”

Murray is the son of a local neurologist who is a prominent researcher on multiple sclerosis.
Investigators, including a bomb squad, searched a home on East Berry Place in Arapahoe County on Sunday night, Murray’s last known address.

In 1990, Murray was registered as a home-schooled student with the Cherry Creek School District, said district spokeswoman Tustin Amole. He later took the Iowa test, a standard test given to third-graders nationwide at the time, said Amole. That is the last record that the district has of him.

Murray has something in common with the Works sisters who died at New Life. They too were home-schooled.

Murray’s later school history indicates a young man adrift. He attended Arapahoe Community College for a while, then quit. Last year he enrolled for a class at Colorado Christian University but dropped out immediately after enrolling.


202 posted on 12/11/2007 8:39:40 AM PST by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: the808bass
After I posted that earlier evaluation of his mental and motivational state I heard an interview that makes me add something to my opinion.

I heard an interview with a young man that had roomed with Murray during his training at the Missionary training facility.

This fellow recounted how Murray had not actually been kicked out as was reported, but instead, was found to not be suited for the program by he, his family and the staff jointly.

He related how this normally quite individual had hidden issues.

First he recounted how he awoke one morning at five AM to find Murray talking to himself and he asked him what he was doing. Murray had responded that he was talking to “his voices” but not to worry as his voices liked the room mate.

Second he recounted a gathering where all were sharing holiday celebration songs and songs of praise and worship. Murray had offered two songs totally inappropriate for the gathering causing consternation of all present.

The first instance, the regular and accepted presence of “voices” talking to a young person is a very typical sign of clinical schizophrenia. People having this are typically going to have to be heavily managed with medication and supervisory confinement in order to avoid total hospitalization. Often young people that develop this condition begin to show it in the teens and twenties for the first time.

I always hesitate to give a pass, or cut slack, for mental illness but this issue of having present and observed conversation with "his voices" is a chilling symptom of very know behavior by very ill people. This is the Berowitz, Son-of-Sam type behavior where he had a dog that talked to him and insisted he do things.

His note, resembling the Colombine notes, is an example of lack of original or specific motivation relating to real incidents in his interaction with the groups he was viewing negatively.

203 posted on 12/11/2007 8:40:49 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: SunkenCiv

If related, Matthew Murray would be of
the age to be Madelyn Murray’s grandson.

Wonder if there is a relationship to
William J. Murray?


204 posted on 12/11/2007 9:20:24 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Royal Wulff

Being the son of Dr. Jock Murray, the well regarded MS neurologist from OTTAWA, CA, would most likely make the son a Canadian.

The Ottawa doctor is the only MS neurologist that comes up when you google the name and MS neurologist.


205 posted on 12/11/2007 9:20:59 AM PST by Eva
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To: DaveLoneRanger
If that’s true, I wonder what caused his rebellion? Speaking anecdotally, one of the biggest causes of rebellion in Christian children is legalism.

Paranoid schizophrenia is also a really good catalyst. His parents may not be responsible, unless they failed to get treatment for him.

206 posted on 12/11/2007 9:41:06 AM PST by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: Jo Nuvark

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937551/posts?page=205#205


207 posted on 12/11/2007 10:56:41 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: tcrlaf

Methinks he hates his current circumstance, too.


208 posted on 12/11/2007 10:59:18 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: flutters

Thank you!


209 posted on 12/11/2007 11:05:51 AM PST by kalee ( No burka for me...EVER.)
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To: livius; pissant

I saw his posts to a website this AM on TV, concerning his desire to kill as many Christians as possible. It was a website for “former Pentecostals.” I don’t know if that means atheist or what.


210 posted on 12/11/2007 11:51:13 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Those ex-pentecostals are typically dangerous.


211 posted on 12/11/2007 11:54:59 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: KC Burke

Superb posts. THank you.


212 posted on 12/11/2007 11:58:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: pissant

Well, it just shows me that he wasn’t “letting go” of his former relationship to his church. It still bothered him a lot, as also evidenced by the hate mail he was sending.


213 posted on 12/11/2007 11:59:28 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

I think “nuts” is the proper diagnosis.


214 posted on 12/11/2007 12:00:31 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Way nuts.


215 posted on 12/11/2007 12:14:37 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

I just wish these nuts would kill themselves and leave an opus instead of pulling a columbine.


216 posted on 12/11/2007 12:15:52 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: ECM

If it was a joke it wasn’t funny dude. Glad you’re pissed.


217 posted on 12/11/2007 1:26:03 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Well, at least your name is apt.


218 posted on 12/11/2007 1:28:32 PM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; ECM
II:

I'm with you, the remark was way out of line.

Only a leftist would call it a joke when caught red-handed as an anti-semite.

Perhaps he is unfamiliar with the fact that Jesus(Yah'shua) is a Jew!


219 posted on 12/11/2007 1:35:38 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt; ECM

I wonder how many “hardy har har’s” he would have gotten if he said a Catholic did it?


220 posted on 12/11/2007 1:39:22 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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