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To: Between the Lines; 444Flyer; logic; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; ...
"First things first. My sin and yours put Jesus on the cross. He was the sacrificial Lamb of God (Isaiah 53) who takes away our sin if we receive Him (John 3). (Technically, the Roman soldiers did our dirty work if you want to get petty.)"

"Ya’shua came for the Jews first (book of Matthew). Enough with the “Jews killed Jesus” already, it doesn’t let anyone off the hook! We all placed the nails in His hands and feet. The Nativity is open to everyone if they choose and their are no “walls” except someone’s own free will."

"The Lord of the New Testament is the same as the Lord of the Old Testament. He is never changing."

"Maybe the folks who came up with this outta read the book of Nehemiah."

"P.S. If they don’t have a love for the Jews and the Jewish nation, then they aren’t “Christians” (Matthew 25:31-46, Matt. 13:24-30)."



"Do you think anyone would be offended if a politically correct Nativity Scene was produced, with palestinians in apartment buildings behind the manger shooting the wise men as they arrived? In 2007, that wall would be the only reason they’d still be alive." -SJackson

Yeah, probably the same Arabs who manufactured these inflammatory nativity scenes.



"This, OTOH, I must refute, one may well be a saved Christian, but not have a full understanding of any of a million different things... It just means they are not perfect Christians... of course I've never met anyone who was perfect, other than my Lord!" - logic

I have to disagree with your refutation. What we are seeing in ostensibly Christian circles globally outside of American Evangelicalism is the same Jew hatred being fanned to life that led to the dilution and breakdown of cultural/moral and spiritual deterrence which permitted the Holocaust to happen—that which happened within the "Christian West"!

Nativity scenes like these are latent Jew hatred, plain and simple.

Interesting.


Looks like they would make good kindling.    












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A student told his professor he was going to "Palestine" to "fight for freedom, peace and justice,"—Orwellian leftist code words that mean "murder Jews."

50 posted on 12/14/2007 6:04:22 PM PST by Salem (What can men do against such reckless hate? ... Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them!)
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To: Salem

I’m thinking about calling myself a “follower of Jesus of Nazareth, the one true Messiah who died on the cross for the sins of the world and desires to be believed in and received, is risen again in victory at the right hand of the Father, and is King of Kings and Lord of Lords” rather than using “Christian” which isn’t anywhere in the Bible and which everyone claims to be these days.

Only the REAL Jesus will do, don’t accept cheap imitations. (Matthew 24, John 14:6)

shalom b’Shem Yah’shua


55 posted on 12/14/2007 11:42:46 PM PST by 444Flyer (NEVER take a "mark" to "buy or sell"!Eph 5:11-14John 3:1-36, Eph 6, Rev 12:11, Jer 29:13-14)
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To: Salem

Ping on #58 and #59.


60 posted on 12/15/2007 8:37:12 AM PST by 444Flyer (NEVER take a "mark" to "buy or sell"!Eph 5:11-14John 3:1-36, Eph 6, Rev 12:11, Jer 29:13-14)
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To: Salem
I have to disagree with your refutation. What we are seeing in ostensibly Christian circles globally outside of American Evangelicalism is the same Jew hatred being fanned to life that led to the dilution and breakdown of cultural/moral and spiritual deterrence which permitted the Holocaust to happen—that which happened within the "Christian West"!

I most certainly agree with what you are saying, Which is most likely, but what you are saying is not mutually exclusive with what I'm saying. There can be real, saved, Christians who are not well attuned to the small quiet voice who have gotten caught up in the hatred others who fall into the category you describe are pushing... Again I'm not saying that is the case here, only that it is, in fact, possible...

As the immortal Sherlock Holmes said, "Once you eliminate the impossible, everything else, however improbable, must be possible!!" (emphasis mine)

97 posted on 12/17/2007 8:50:55 AM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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