Posted on 12/16/2007 10:43:41 AM PST by marktwain
Jeanne Assam, the heroine of the New Life Church shooting in Colorado Springs, would likely have been unable to carry the Beretta that she stopped the shooting with if she had been a licensed security guard.
An AP article published on 12 December noted that licensed security guards in Colorado Springs are restricted to the use of revolvers.
As Jeanne Assam was a volunteer parishioner who was performing security guard duties because the church did not want to hire “mercenaries”, she was almost certainly not affected by the regulations, which only apply to government regulated security guards.
Fortunately, her lack of official status with the state and city allowed her to carry a firearm with sufficient firepower to accomplish the necessary task.
Jeannette had to fire 10 rounds to keep her fellow parishoners safe.
“I Love my 2 1/8” S&W 640 a wrist breaker, I am old.”
It will sting a good bit without gloves, but is certainly manageable.
“Try it at night”
Actually, you are both right. It doesn’t depend on the gun as much as it depends on the ammo. Ammo with flash suppressant powder doesn’t have much flash, even from a short barreled .357.
I’ve shot Corbon .357 at night, all you get is a dull orange ball about the size of a grapefruit.
If the ammo does not have flash suppressant powder, however, a .357 at night can blind you like a flashbulb!
Compensators direct more of the flash upward, rather than out, so an intensely flashing round with blind you more than with a non-compensated barrel.
If the powder is flash suppressed, however, it won’t make a lot of difference.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not being critical of the 9mm luger. It’s the caliber I choose for concealed carry. In fact, I think it’s the best choice. For several reasons. First off, it’s cheap and easy to find. It’s small enough they can make very small handguns chambered for it for concealed carry. 40 S&W is quite a bit better than 9mm, but it is barely better than 9mm +P. I don’t think it’s worth the upgrade.
And like I stated in an earlier post, 9mm luger +P actually outperforms 357mag in very short barrels.
Shoot until they drop.
Well, Cowpoke, as usual you have nailed it!!!.
Far better that no marginally proficient CCW holders were present!!!
One shooter killing people was more than enough.
Hell, if three or four other CCW's opened up, there mighta been NO-ONE left standing.
My daughter had problems with it with .38’s, I use Hydroshocks, .357. It is my primary self defense gun, small, easily carried, and if you can’t hit them the muzzle flash will scare them off.
I practice at an underground range where I can dim the lights. The 31C doesn’t present any special problem. It depends mostly on the load and powder. My 6 inch 44 is like a flashgun going off with that UMC yellow box 180gr stuff!
Interesting, since FWIU the cylinder is not counted in the barrel length of a .357mag revolver, but the chamber is counted in the barrel length of a .357sig auto.
That’s what took out Sean Taylor.
Exactly! And even tight revolvers can put a good flash out the gap between the forcing cone and cylinder, but that and the compensated blast is small compared to what comes out the front. You can sometimes find out which loads are going to be low flash by checking comments on line, but if you’re serious about it you need to test them in your gun in low light to make sure they’ll work for you.
Is the Corbon you’re talking about the stuff they recommend for snubbies?
Nope, Rugers 454s are 6 shooters.
Ya wanna talk about muzzle flash, fire the Blackhawk 30 carbine. The flash goes out 18 inches!
If she’d have been using .357 Mag she wouldn’t have needed 10 rounds anyway.
I can imagine. I used to have TC with a 14” 30-30 barrel. I didn’t reload so I used standard ammo in it.
WOW, bet that was a fun way to start a camp fire! :)
“The word is “implying”. It’s the one who is reading or hearing something that does the inferring. Furthermore, you can infer something without its ever having been implied.”
You are absolutely correct. I should have used “implying”.
However they make a very nice I use it in my S&W 642CT carry Corbon make ammo for all makes and models.
Especially for defensive use
110g .38 Spl +p 1200fps using the DPX bullet.
But if you REALLY want to stop ‘zombies’ with a .38 snubby ya gotta use Buffalo Bore ammo http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm#38spl
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