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Revealed: 'Gay' plans to target 2-year-olds
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12/17/07 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 12/18/2007 4:51:48 PM PST by wagglebee

Children as young as two years of age are in the bull's-eye of coming changes in California's school curriculum, which "gay rights" advocates now admit will alter the very foundation of information presented to public school classrooms.


Gov. Schwarzenegger

A list of school resources, sponsored by a homosexual-advocacy group called Safe Schools Coalition, suggests that for those who are only two years old, there's "Felicia's Favorite Story," which tells how she was "adopted by her two mothers."

The list also promotes a book called "Are You a Girl or a Boy?" by Karleen Jiminez, a resource for children ages 4-8 when advocating homosexuality, bisexuality, transgenderism and other alternative lifestyle choices.

It's described as "A sweet book about a gender-different kid."

Other resources being promoted in light of California's adoption of SB 777 as state law include books authored by officials for Planned Parenthood and the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network.

One book, called "Tackling Gay Issues in School," is for kindergarten through grade 12, and offers a "rationale (for the inclusion of les/bi/gay/trans issues in school)." It features recommended "extracurricular" activities for classes.

The promotion of such materials has coincided with the recent admission by Equality California, a homosexual advocacy group that worked to have SB 777 passed by lawmakers and signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, that the bill really does edit all school curricula in California.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: caglbt; callegislation; deviancy; education; homosexualagenda; homosexuallinks; moralabsolutes; pederasty; pedophilia; perversion; perverts; sb777
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To: Othniel
it is my opinion that the government schools are not too far gone.
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That should read: government schools are now too far gone.

Othniel, I am sorry I forgot to add your name to the ping. Please read message #49. Thank you .

51 posted on 12/18/2007 6:11:02 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wagglebee

Bump for later.


52 posted on 12/18/2007 6:11:03 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Lord.)
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To: wintertime
Uh oh! Some government school defender will be **personally** insulted and demand that you be banned.

Public schools don't have to be this perverted. As a dichotomy, my daughters choir concert last night at her public school was replete with Christian songs about Jesus and His birth some of them even in Latin!

53 posted on 12/18/2007 6:15:39 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: wagglebee

Will the churches step up and open schools to save Christian children, or will they tolerate this seduction of children to this evil life style?


54 posted on 12/18/2007 6:16:29 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Clintonfatigued

I used to be the live-and-let-live type, too, until I had children. Once they were old enough to ask questions, I started thinking differently about the answers. Suddenly, my old arguments didn’t make sense anymore...


55 posted on 12/18/2007 6:18:33 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: wintertime

Actually, government schools were too far gone a long time ago.


56 posted on 12/18/2007 6:19:50 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; bill1952; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This is becoming a fairly high volume list.
57 posted on 12/18/2007 6:25:31 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: abclily; aberaussie; albertp; AliVeritas; Amelia; AnAmericanMother; andie74; AVNevis; bannie; ...

Public Education Ping

This list is for articles relating to public education. mcvey and republican professor have asked me to take over the list. If you want on or off this ping list, please FReepmail me.
58 posted on 12/18/2007 6:26:20 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

Two year olds are not going to even understand the concept of *adopt* to begin with. And in a two year old’s concrete thinking, this will go right past them.

But it must stop. No way should these issues be addressed with kids by anyone but their parents.


59 posted on 12/18/2007 6:28:38 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Othniel

Good for you! It really takes guts to take a stand like that and I’m sure you are a blessing to all those kids who need some sanity in the midst of the all this moral morass.


60 posted on 12/18/2007 6:32:17 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

This stuff is inevitable once homosexuality becomes uncloseted. Homosexuals need to recruit, so they are compelled to target children.

In addition, homosexuals themselves know that their behavior is unnatural. When homosexuality is in the closet, and society doesn’t permit it to be flaunted openly, homosexuals mostly keep their perversion private and don’t bother others. But once homosexuality is uncloseted, things change. Homosexuals begin demanding that their behavior be ratified by every institution in society.

I’ve mentioned this many times before, but it’s like the story of the emperor’s new clothes. Homosexuals need to constantly be assured that their behavior is normal, because it so obviously isn’t. Just as the emperor needed to be constantly assured by everyone that he was fully clothed in fine attire, the homosexuals need for literally everyone to pay homage to their behavior. If even one person, even a child, dissents, then their ego is completely deflated.

This is why there can never be a “libertarian” attitude on homosexuality. Homosexuality must either be held in check, in the closet, or its practitioners will use government power to suppress everyone who disapproves of it. It’s a compulsion homosexuals can’t resist by the very attributes of their perversion.


61 posted on 12/18/2007 6:48:03 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: puroresu
Homosexuals need to recruit, so they are compelled to target children.

Homosexuals target children because it's highly unlikely that 12 year old boys have AIDS.

62 posted on 12/18/2007 6:59:55 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (If liberals were merely stupid then the laws of probability would dictate that at least some of thie)
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To: girlangler

I
can’t
breathe


63 posted on 12/18/2007 7:25:00 PM PST by Grammy
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
Homosexuals target children because it's highly unlikely that 12 year old boys have AIDS.

and

They target them because they are attracted to them.

I doubt that they give more than a passing thought or care about the consequences of such perverted behavior.

After all, in the new, diversity is strength, feelings trump learning, buy everyone a puppy, eco friendly, mankind is a parasite on Earth polluting it with our breath mentality that pervades America today, being a homo is in perfect harmony.

The schools are a fallen edifice standing as monuments to a failed system.

64 posted on 12/18/2007 7:28:43 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: wagglebee

Idiot REgressives.


65 posted on 12/18/2007 7:28:58 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: TigersEye; yorkie

ping & a big grrrrrrrr


66 posted on 12/18/2007 7:32:48 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: wagglebee

Schwarzenegger should give in and give sheep the vote, but keep adoption illegal for homosexuals.


67 posted on 12/18/2007 7:36:21 PM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: bill1952; metmom
The schools are a fallen edifice standing as monuments to a failed system.

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It is time that Christian teachers abandoned the government schools. Christian teachers need to be building up Christian education in their own congregations. They can do this by helping pastors open traditional schools, homeschools, and group homeschooling.

Once Christian education is on a firm footing in a congregation, then they should welcome other children and fellowship the parents of these children.

Finally, if Harvard can have a $35 billion endowment, why can’t Christians establish private scholarship endowments so that every child in the U.S. could have a private Christian education if his parents desired it? We are a wealthy nation. Christians could do this if they wanted.

68 posted on 12/18/2007 7:39:30 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
> Christians could do this if they wanted.

I think that that is a fascinating idea.
How would you go about starting and doing that?

I'm willing to try something in that line as part of a broader overarching construct.

69 posted on 12/18/2007 7:48:52 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: wintertime
Thank you for your kind reply. I would like to say, in defense of my school and others like it, that there are lights out there. My own school is K-8, with two or three classes per grade level. Many of the teachers are Christians, and we get together weekly to pray and talk about issues. It's a small town situation, and everybody either knows each other or are related in some fashion. Our Christmas program was just that: A Christmas program, not some dumba$$, watered down "Sparkle Season" program, as is seen in lesser schools. Our discipline program is solid, so solid that the veep (a Christian himself) expelled no less than 10 kids last year for assorted violations. We can say "Merry Christmas" if we want, and I showed "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe," complete with a study guide supplied by the other teacher (a sister in the Lord) that asked a LOT of pointed questions about Aslan.

Maybe for some places it is too far gone. San Francisco, New Yahk, Los Angeles. If Mrs. Othniel and I lived there, then we would homeschool, no question. But there are lights out there, and I believe my site is one of them.

As for the 85%, I know that's probably tied in to going to a secular university....alone....away from parents or any other means of support. But with parents who are aware of the risks, a shorter leash is a better idea. A lot of parents don't discuss what happens in class when kids are in college. Too bad. How many parents just toss their kids out the door when they finish high school, instead of keeping them around, examining what they spend their money on, spending the time to do research about the teachers and the classes? When I left for university, I knew nobody, had no church, none of that. But I found friends, got plugged in to a church, and didn't fall away. But that was years ago.

Not everyone is made to homeschool. Even though my kids go to a government school, Mrs. Othniel and I are very careful to ask for, and get, literature lists, copies of science curriucula, and the like. We push for what we want, and it tells the school that we are aware of what is out there. We have never been dissatisfied with any of our kids' teachers. The few bumps the state books have put in our road have been dealt with, by either me or Mrs. O. (who has a masters in English Lit, for which she had to slog through, and reject, a lot of opinions and interepretations of Shakespeare and the like). We have openly discussed, as much as is age appropriate, homosexuality. The kids know what it is, know it's out there, and know that it is wrong is God's eyes. They know that our Lord Jesus loves gays, but won't tolerate the sin ("Would God let an unrepentant axe murderer into heaven?"). We have good talks about it.

Again, thank you for your reply. Let me state again that I reject this SB 777, and will pray against it, completely disobey it, and violently defend my students against it and any of its swishy proponents. God Bless You, and Merry Christmas!

70 posted on 12/18/2007 7:53:22 PM PST by Othniel (Mohammad: False Prophet and Smeghead Deluxe....)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper; puroresu; metmom; wagglebee
I have pointed out 8th graders that most fashion is designed by gay guys who like teenage boys. That's why the models are built like....teenage boys, and why the fashion styles don't work on the average girl.

The "EEEW" factor goes up considerably when they realize I'm right....

71 posted on 12/18/2007 8:00:17 PM PST by Othniel (Mohammad: False Prophet and Smeghead Deluxe....)
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To: bill1952
Initially, I would use the model of the Perpetual Education Fund used by the Mormon Church. It is a very interesting idea, in my opinion.

http://www.lds.org/ldsfoundation/accelwork/priority/0,7476,536-1-211,00.html

For instance, if it costs $4,000/child/ year at a traditional brick and mortar-type school, then over that child’s lifetime he and his parents would donate that amount ( and **more**) to the fund. The student ( as well as other sympathetic Christians) could bequeath money to the fund in their wills, and assign a portion of life insurance policies.

As the fund grew, it would eventually become a pure gift and not a loan.

However,,,I think we should abandon the idea of traditional brick and mortar schools. With today’s technology it would be possible to have many group homeschools, or “one room school houses” meeting in members’ homes, with churches ( and their Christian teachers) merely acting as facilitators. The cost could and should be far, far less than $4,000 a year.

72 posted on 12/18/2007 8:06:41 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Othniel
“Maybe for some places it is too far gone. San Francisco, New Yahk, Los Angeles. If Mrs. Othniel and I lived there, then we would homeschool, no question. But there are lights out there, and I believe my site is one of them.”

The answer to this question will clarify your writing:

Are you, or are you not a dues-paying member of the NEA?

73 posted on 12/18/2007 8:31:25 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: wagglebee
It's time for Schwarzenegger to go!

Arnold vetoed this a year ago. Why did he sign it this time?

74 posted on 12/18/2007 8:56:24 PM PST by montag813
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To: wagglebee

Ugh. I feel sick.


75 posted on 12/18/2007 9:01:24 PM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: pesto

ping!


76 posted on 12/19/2007 12:36:45 AM PST by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: wagglebee

I support efforts to overturn SB 777, but the gay rights movement does not exist in a vacuum. We have sex outside of marriage, easy divorce, abortion on demand, sex used to sell in advertising, sex in movies... We’re not at the edge of a slippery slope; we’ve been going down it for at least 40 years. What used to be shocking and unmentionable is now met with a shrug.


77 posted on 12/19/2007 3:17:57 AM PST by beejaa
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“The tail wags the dog again. Because gays are so over-represented in the mass media and politics, 2 percent of the population dictates the agenda of the other 98 percent.”

And these sickos intend to have full access to the kids of the 98% able to reproduce. Let me know when you figure out a way to stop this most degenerate of all social movements.


78 posted on 12/19/2007 6:17:23 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: wagglebee

The ultimate in sexual harrassment is to allow perverts to enter a school and force kids to accept this degeneracy. How and why should the queers be allowed to do this?


79 posted on 12/19/2007 6:18:55 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: wagglebee

Whose got the “another reason to homeschool” pinglist, anyway?


80 posted on 12/19/2007 6:19:34 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: Othniel
As the hubby of a faithful and energetic woman who chose to help chilren develop instead of chasing the almighty dollar, I say 'Thank You' for your service to His children.

That said I have to ask why any 2 year old would be affected ? personal irresponsibility and nannyism to the extreme

How does social darwinism and homo agenda exist in the same camp ? they cant breed so they must extinct themselves without recruiting...satan marches on...

81 posted on 12/19/2007 6:19:58 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Agree 100%. “Live and Let Live” is a two-way street.


82 posted on 12/19/2007 6:21:05 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: bruinbirdman
I offer a personal anecdote. I have a homosexual nephew. His tactic on his own nephew, aged three, started by educating him in his front yard to the fact that "snails have no sex." Then he bought the boy a toy vacuum cleaner.

Keep an eye on him. You may have to administer an @ss-whomping at some point on this creature.
83 posted on 12/19/2007 6:21:07 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: RavenATB

Mrs Gilbo went pro choice on that one, and declined their invitation/request for donations...


84 posted on 12/19/2007 6:28:43 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Antoninus; metmom

I think “metmom” is now handling all of the homeschool pinglists.


85 posted on 12/19/2007 6:29:21 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Othniel

If people would leave the mega cities and realize the po dunk USA still has values, we’d be better off. Our town still has annual round the clock Bible reading marathon weekend ON THE COURTHOUSE STEPS ...


86 posted on 12/19/2007 6:31:56 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: wagglebee

When I read stories such as this (God help me) I realize that it’s time for another tea party in this country. Of course, we are nowhere near that far along..


87 posted on 12/19/2007 6:35:24 AM PST by ohioman
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To: Brad from Tennessee

2 percent is generous. The last census has them at 1 percent, and possibly less than that.


88 posted on 12/19/2007 6:38:13 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: wintertime

“85% of those children raised in strong Christian homes abandon their faith within 2 years of leaving government school, however 90 to 95% of homeschoolers remain faithful. It is evident that the government school are amazing effective in proselytizing their secular humanist religion to children with Christian parents.”

I am currently engaged in a tough debate with my wife over public schooling (her position) and private (church) schooling, and our daughter is 2.5 years old.

I send her information several times a week pointing out the failures and evil that exist in many public schools, and would really like to share this information with her. Do you have a link to the study? That’s definite bookmark material. I checked the Exodus site you provided, but didn’t see it there.


89 posted on 12/19/2007 6:50:14 AM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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To: wagglebee
It's time for Schwarzenegger to go!

Many warned California would see new laws such as S.B. 777 if Schwarzenegger became California's governor. Some people, including some Freepers rallied for Schwarzenegger and against McClintock and said "a vote for McClintock is a vote for Bustamonte." They further said homosexuality would be normallized all the more if Bustamonte were California's governor.

Other Californians said there isn't much of a difference between Schwarzenegger and Bustamonte. They refused to support and vote for Schwarzenegger.

I remember some California freepers saying Schwarzenegger would give California the same homosexual laws Bustamonte would give California, it would just happen more slowly. Those who supported Schwarzenegger disagreed or didn't care.

And now California has S.B. 777.

90 posted on 12/19/2007 7:16:05 AM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: wintertime
why do teachers agree to this child abuse?

Indoctrination and power. They are taught this sort of stuff, including assignments that make them active participants in creating these types of lesson plans, as part of their education. They go into a school where few have the courage to speak up even if they disagree with this sort of thing, and by degrees they just lose touch with the reality of it. People tend to base their reaction not on what is done to them, but on what is done to them in relation to what has been done to them in the past. A child that has never been spanked will react very differently than a child that has been spanked before. Same with adults. They get indoctrinated and silenced, made complicit, and then maybe even become active participants or instigators. Hideous. It's not only the kids that get hurt by this machine, it's the teachers also.

91 posted on 12/19/2007 7:31:22 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Injun_Ear_Danny; Chode
I’ve never thought knowledge was bad, and I’ve never thought censorship was good.

Knowledge is neither good nor bad; however, there are things that are simply inappropriate for young children. As far as "censorship" goes, you (like most liberals/libertarians) seem to have no idea what it even means.

93 posted on 12/19/2007 12:40:18 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Deut28
Deut28

Here’s the link:

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:kY4WNVux_NIJ:www.exodusmandate.org/20070503-resolution/2007-letter-to-committee-members.doc+Dr.+Bryan+Ray+percentage+Christian+children+leave+faith&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us

94 posted on 12/19/2007 1:24:38 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Antoninus

Why wait? What he said is plenty justification. Sick filthy beast.


95 posted on 12/19/2007 1:31:36 PM PST by Hunter voter 08
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To: Gilbo_3; Othniel
If people would leave the mega cities and realize the po dunk USA still has values, we’d be better off.
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Gilbo and Othniel,

Moving is not the answer, Gilbo.

ALL government schools are Anti-Christian, even those in “Podunk”, U.S.A. Please read what Dr. Bruce Shortt presented to the Southern Baptist Convention.

Another point, is that if Christian teachers are members of the NEA, they are ( with their money) supporting and promoting an overly Anti-Christian agenda.

I respectfully suggest that it is time for Christian teachers to leave the government schools and to focus their time, talents, and energy on building up an alternative Christian system. The chances of saving the souls of their own congregation’s Christian children are greater. The chances of attracting non-member families and their children to the fold are greater.

Wintertime

All Public Schools, By Law, Are Anti-Christian

First, it is important to distinguish between individuals and institutions. There is still a sizable remnant of Christian adults employed by the public schools. Many of them pray for their students and a few, though they risk being disciplined or fired, furtively try to witness. But this certainly does not mean that institutionally any public school system is, as some try to argue, “sympathetic to Christianity.” In fact, expressing nontrivial institutional “sympathy” for Christianity, let alone teaching from a Christian worldview, is absolutely prohibited by a complex web of court rulings, legislation, and regulations that apply to every single school and every single school employee subject to the laws of the United States. This is the hostile institutional environment in which Christian adults in the schools are forced to work. And, unfortunately, when you put good people in a bad system, the system almost always wins, which is the reason the public school system continues to deteriorate.

“Sympathy”, or the lack of sympathy, however, is simply not the relevant standard for judging whether a school is a suitable place to train up a Christian child. Christ tells us clearly that “He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.” For forty years and more, every public school has been legally prohibited from being for Christ. Unless one chooses to disregard Christ’s teaching, the only conclusion that can honestly be reached is that the entire public school system, by law, is against Christ. As will be seen, this is further confirmed when we look at the evidence of whether the public schools are “gathering” with Christ or “scattering.”

There Is No Neutrality in Education

Often Christians attempt to argue it doesn’t matter that the public school system is not for Christ – that education is somehow religiously “neutral.” Education, however, is never neutral.

Any Christian who believes that government schools operate on religiously neutral principles is simply deceived. There is no such thing as metaphysical or religious neutrality. If an institution rejects the Bible’s teaching about the nature of God, Man and the universe, then it necessarily accepts, implicitly or explicitly, some other worldview, whether it be the materialist metaphysics of secular humanism, the cosmic humanism of the New Age religions, or something else. Government schools are no exception.

On a practical level, the net result of nearly sixty years of Supreme Court rulings on the meaning of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution has not been to create a level playing field for different beliefs, but simply to take all vestiges of Christianity out of government schools. Today, secular humanism, postmodernism, New Age mysticism, and other forms of paganism pervade government schools at all levels. The teachers’ unions, such as the NEA, are openly hostile to Biblical Christianity and its values, and the curricula of schools of education and teachers’ colleges, from which the overwhelming majority of teachers are drawn, are suffused with a mélange of postmodern and other nonchristian worldviews. Not surprisingly, textbook publishers accommodate the education establishment’s worldview by providing textbooks that conform to the prevailing anti-Christian perspective of the education establishment.

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:kY4WNVux_NIJ:www.exodusmandate.org/20070503-resolution/2007-letter-to-committee-members.doc+Dr.+Bryan+Ray+percentage+Christian+children+leave+faith&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us

96 posted on 12/19/2007 1:49:31 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Othniel
As for the 85%, I know that’s probably tied in to going to a secular university....alone....away from parents or any other means of support.

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Othniel,

Going to college does not explain the loss of faith of those schooled in government schools. If going to college were an explanation we would see similar stats for homeschoolers, but we don’t.

The following is from Dr. Bruce Shortt’s report to the Southern Baptist Convention:

“Research by Dr. Brian Ray, founder of NHERI, found that 94% of all homeschooled children retained their faith into adulthood.”

“In 2002 the SBC’s Council on Family Life reported that roughly 88% of our children leave the church within 2 years after graduating from high school. It is reported by LifeWay’s Zan Tyler that Josh McDowell Ministries pegs the number who leave at 92%.3”

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:kY4WNVux_NIJ:www.exodusmandate.org/20070503-resolution/2007-letter-to-committee-members.doc+Dr.+Bryan+Ray+percentage+Christian+children+leave+faith&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us

97 posted on 12/19/2007 1:55:15 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Ask Mark Steyn.


98 posted on 12/19/2007 2:22:46 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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99 posted on 12/19/2007 2:54:23 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: RavenATB
Nope. Am a member of CEAI, a Christian group that serves to inform, encourage, and start prayer groups in schools among teachers. Should my place go union, I'm gone, and so are a lot of others.
100 posted on 12/19/2007 3:13:01 PM PST by Othniel (Mohammad: False Prophet and Smeghead Deluxe....)
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