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NFL Network flap may jeopardize league's antitrust exemption
Houston Chronicle/AP ^

Posted on 12/19/2007 5:22:15 PM PST by Snickering Hound

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To: discostu

At least something good would have happened in the first place.

The Dolphins can use a bit of that “good luck” stuff. I think the Patriots have some spare that they left in Baltimore.


61 posted on 12/19/2007 8:55:17 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: Terpfen
I’m feeling sufficiently high right now to say that the real punchline to this season will come on Sunday, when the Patriots go 14-1."
You must be high on crack, LOL Heck, anything can happen and it would be pretty damn wild if Miami won this weekend, but it only would have worked the Hollywood storyline-- if it was going to be the first win of the season to end the Pats 16-0 run and the Dolphins 0-16 run, since Miami won last weekend ,THAT storyline has been canceled and the Pats beat up the hapless Dolphin episode is going to be aired. ;)
62 posted on 12/19/2007 8:57:07 PM PST by scott says
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To: WackySam
If you live in the home market of either team for the games that are shown on the NFL Network you are still able to see those games on your local network.

As long as those games are not blacked out, due to not having a sell-out crowd. This was a problem at a number of KC games this last season, for the first time in many years. If not for the actions of a number of radio stations and the Hunt family, buying up the tickets at the last minute, a number of Chiefs games wouldn't have been seen in Kansas City.

Mark

63 posted on 12/19/2007 8:57:13 PM PST by MarkL
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To: discostu
Nice rant. It demonstrates that you’re completely emotion based on this and desperate to ignore all the most simple logic, but it’s a nice rant. Here’s the reality: there is never anything wrong with using one product to help you sell another. Food companies put coupons for products that aren’t selling well in the packaging for products that are. Video game consoles get sold at a loss so there’s a market for the video games, which the console companies produce some of and get fee for the rest. And Discovery the company uses the popularity of Discovery the network to help them sell Science the network no one watches. There’s nothing wrong with this, there never has been anything wrong with this, and there never will be anything wrong with this. And if you don’t like it don’t get cable, there’s an easy way out of the game and lots of fun things to do without TV.

This is a conservative forum. I think that I offered a conservative point of view. I believe in free markets and competition. In the end technologies develop that trump prevailing business models. Media barons like Hearst had their day. Land line phone companies had their day. The present status quo will be replaced by something else, I am sure. But they are still racketeering.

64 posted on 12/19/2007 9:03:39 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: scott says
THAT storyline has been canceled and the Pats beat up the hapless Dolphin episode is going to be aired. ;)

Reruns happen in summer, not winter.
65 posted on 12/19/2007 9:03:57 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: Biblebelter

The problem with what you put forth is that you want Congress to intervene, that’s not conservative, that’s more big government. The right solution, the one that will actually work, the one that’s conservative, is the one you’ve finally arrived at: let the free market handle it. Time-Warner has already proven that conglomerate media can get oversized and be counter productive.

But they’re not racketeers, that’s pure emotion driven hyperbole. They’re people using a perfectly legitimate business model that’s used by every other multi-faceted company on the planet. Using the successful parts of the business to help sell the not yet (or not as) successful parts is BUS101, not racketeering.


66 posted on 12/19/2007 9:09:44 PM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: Terpfen
The classics are timeless and always in season.
67 posted on 12/19/2007 9:13:23 PM PST by scott says
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To: scott says

Not according to the networks!

Otherwise Down Periscope and the ‘85 Bears/Dolphins game would be on every Saturday.


68 posted on 12/19/2007 9:36:29 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: Radix

You are probably right. I know it is more a marketing thing for the NFL and its one of the more watched channels in my house. They do a good job with it.

I guess when enough people gripe to the cable companies they will get it. I have been pretty happy with Directv and don’t miss cable at all.


69 posted on 12/19/2007 10:20:28 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: Hootch

Intervene? Intervene??? I must remind the public, that congress has just voted to ban LIGHTBULBS! By this precedent, how can they fail to ban baseball and football NIGHTGAMES, and indeed all outdoor stadium lighting.

Of course I allude to “Thursday Night Football”, which is the current bone of contention, and an obvious threat to the planet.


70 posted on 12/19/2007 11:20:28 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: PAR35

The NFL doesn’t interest me at all until late January.

Semper Fi,


71 posted on 12/20/2007 5:00:34 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: Gargantua
I have Dish Network's basic programming... NFL Network is on it. I watch it every day. You don't know what you're talking about.

Care to try again? Mash here for the Dish Family package. I don't see the NFL Network on that.

72 posted on 12/20/2007 5:16:52 AM PST by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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To: Snickering Hound

I couldn’t have been more dissappointed when I went to a local watering hole to watch the Cowboys vs. Packers game. That venue actually switched cable providers so that they were able to get the NFL Network. So there I am, watching the NFL Network pre-game coverage, getting all wired for the game and all of a sudden the screen freezes. The NFL Network blacked out the coverage on all cable providers in my region, only Dish subscribers had the game.

Because of that move alone, I will never pay a red cent to the NFL Network. However, I don’t need to Senators involved in this decision.


73 posted on 12/20/2007 5:24:38 AM PST by CSM ("Dogs and beer. Proof that God loves us.- Al Gator (8/24/2007))
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To: WackySam

“Since when do people have “a right” to see NFL games outside of their own markets?”

Living in the Detroit area I should have that RIGHT!


74 posted on 12/20/2007 5:36:29 AM PST by CSM ("Dogs and beer. Proof that God loves us.- Al Gator (8/24/2007))
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To: Snickering Hound

The congress should have better things to do.


75 posted on 12/20/2007 5:37:40 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

They simulcast the NFL network games in the home markets, so I don’t see what the issue is.


76 posted on 12/20/2007 5:38:41 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: TomGuy
For example, Cox Cable offers the NFL Network only on the Sports Digital Tier which costs the viewer around $10.00.

That only works if you have digital cable. Now if you don't have digital cable, and want the pay the $10.00, you have to upgrade your cable to digital, and Cox, Comcast et al, offer that up for how much? And in addition to that, how much to rent, or buy if even possible, the number of digital boxes required for how many TV's?

The $$$ add up.

77 posted on 12/20/2007 5:38:44 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: pepsionice

I’ve been saying that for some time now. The NFL will go to a subscription system or pay per view (per game). And I’d be willing to guess that they would even do simulcasts of games and viewers would get the choice of either broadcast TV of the games with all of the stupid commericals, or pay per view with no commericals.


78 posted on 12/20/2007 5:47:33 AM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: steveegg

That’s the Family package which has no sports networks at all. The 100 package http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/at_100/packages.aspx
which looks to me like the true “basic” has NFLN.


79 posted on 12/20/2007 5:54:01 AM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: mrmargaritaville

Of course one of the reasons Sunday Ticket is only on DirecTV is that they’re the only ones who were willing to carry is as NOT pay-per-view. That’s how the cable companies wanted to handle it and the NFL said hell no. Also the networks that pay them $1 billion objected to that level of game choice being available to so much of the population. Really the NFL is not going PPV or subscription, there’s simply no way to do that and make the move revenue positive. All they have to do is look at what happened to boxing, the NFL is just not that stupid.


80 posted on 12/20/2007 5:59:50 AM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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