Posted on 12/21/2007 4:20:24 AM PST by RCFlyer
...Mormonism was a defiantly apartheid faith that denied blacks full participation based on doctrinal beliefs that whites are "pure" and "delightsome," while black-skinned people are "unrighteous," "despised" and "loathsome" descendants of the biblical Cain, who was cursed for killing Abel.
The priesthood proscription, which operated under a "one-drop rule," wasn't in place simply to keep blacks out of leadership posts. Ultimately, the ban was a manifestation of a central belief that blacks are unfit to be full members of the church on Earth, or to exist alongside whites in heaven...
Mormon leaders were applauded for finally ending the prohibition. But according to Mr. Mauss, the church has never repudiated the teachings that supported the policy. In 2004, he wrote, "ironically, the doctrinal folklore that many of us thought had been discredited, or at least made moot, through the 1978 revelation, continued to appear . . . [in church literature] written well after 1978 and continues to be taught by well-meaning teachers and leaders in the church to this very day." And "Mormon America," which was just re-released, notes plainly that "Mormon teaching against race-mixing remains in force."
Throughout his current campaign for the Republican nomination, Mr. Romney has declined to distance himself from the repugnant racial teachings of his church...
In his ballyhooed speech earlier this month, Mr. Romney said he wouldn't renounce any of Mormonism's precepts. And for all his claims to the contrary, Mr. Romney has, in fact, been willing to distance himself from past teachings of the church--just not those having to do with its treatment of black people...
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Are you suggesting that FReepers do not need to keep aware of what WSJ and its gaggle of writers are saying?
Your reference to #2 doesn't make any sense without some sort of explanation.
What? Equating Mormonism with Sharptonism?
That's a streeeeetch.
Putting race aside, what's up with Mitt and his always tortuous language. The guy can not speak in declarative sentences. Even his language flip flops around in just a single sentence.
"I told you where I stand. ...( Ah, yeah Mitt, sure )...My view ( view? Odd word. Very, tentative )..is that there--there's, there's (three theres in a row. Come on Mitt, process/compute/process. Must give sales job answer...Robot Mitt CPU 100% utilization...).. no discrimination in the eyes of..( of..of..the Mormo..).. God,( what a sidestep! ).. and I could not have been more pleased ( very passive language. Can't you just feel the love? The excitement? No? Me neither. )...to see the change that occurred."( I think Mittbot means the Mormon Church, but since the last noun was God, then maybe God changed. )
Poor Mitt, nothing is clear for him.
Look , you are talking to a Southern Baptist raised in Georgia, who lived in Colorado and Massachusetts, who is now Methodist... and the reason Utah and Colorado are whiter than the South, is because Black Slavery existed in the South before the Civil war and not in Utah or Colorado..duh!
Which has nothing to do with his later born again status. He didn't become born again for political gain but to regain his own soul. He was not running for any office when he was reborn.
It will be a cold day in a hot hell when I start accepting WSJ interpretations of religious matters as "Gospel Truth". Their business is to fill the pockets of their readers with gold, not their spirits with religious "truths".
Gad!
I didn’t think so.
There are a variety of reasons for that. If the Mormons don't, it's their religion, not yours, so your best course of action here is to not attempt to cast Mormonism in the same mold as your own theological and ecclesiastical outlook.
There are more blacks in Colorado. I asked about UTAH specifically. There are blacks in Nevada, Arizona, New Mexido, California, Washington, Kansas....how about UTAH?
30 years after the LDS Church ended its discriminatory practices, we finally forced some to come here after hurricane Katrina.
Wow, we are such a loving and inclusive people. But we DO have plenty of polynesians. We THOUGHT they were descendants of Hebrews and so we brought them here, and then DNA and.....oopsie......
The doctrine that Romney will not renounce and according to the article is still being taught to this day even if it's not official doctrine.
(crickets)
Yep.
And the Mittster? After all, he was a Harvard Lawyer by then. Shirley( stop calling me that ) he was writing to the leadership, letters to the Salt Lake local rag, denouncing the practice. Right? Bueller? Anyone?
(crickets)
No I am not suggesting any such thing, but it seems due to Huckabee running as "holier than thou" Christian, that Mormonism is taking a lot of hits due to political ambitions.
B.S.
If you'd like I'll name a few ~ it's a desert, it has 4 months more winter than other places, it's culturally dissimilar to places black people and white people like to live, employment has been tight until quite recently and the local lack of interest in keeping out illegal aliens makes it hard for entry level job folks to get jobs, etc.
Do you need more?
But, but, Maddox was just confronting them figuratively
What's up with that? The fill their pockets with gold? What, are they false...um...Jews or something?
I repeatedly see here on FR, Mittbots writing that their critics are robbing, doing, putting gold into the hands of preachers/priests/fill in the blank.
There is some serious projection going on.
:-) They don’t like to ski?
Vague generalities are not satisfactory.
Real intelligent reply.
You have nothing.
I have a friend who keeps his "money god" on his key chain. That's his religion.
He still knows the difference and does not pray to the money god while he's standing on his head contemplating the child Krishna during his meditations.
I would expect folks here to be able to do at least the same, and without standing on their heads.
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