Church Separation The Mormons still haven't settled their race problem.

The Wall Street Journal ^ | Friday, December 21, 2007 | JASON L. RILEY

[muawiyah]

It's an opinion piece from Wall Street Journal ~ it was simply posted by a FReeper.

Are you suggesting that FReepers do not need to keep aware of what WSJ and its gaggle of writers are saying?

Your reference to #2 doesn't make any sense without some sort of explanation.

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I tend to think Mormonism WAS to pure white American society (pre-1950s) as Al Shapton’s National Action Network IS to black American society. So while Mormons need a little bit of Al in their lives, they tend to live much, much better than blacks in American society.

What? Equating Mormonism with Sharptonism?

That's a streeeeetch.

[Leisler]

Re;" What a load of BS! What will some here on Free Republic try to do in the name of Politics."

Putting race aside, what's up with Mitt and his always tortuous language. The guy can not speak in declarative sentences. Even his language flip flops around in just a single sentence.

"I told you where I stand. ...( Ah, yeah Mitt, sure )...My view ( view? Odd word. Very, tentative )..is that there--there's, there's (three theres in a row. Come on Mitt, process/compute/process. Must give sales job answer...Robot Mitt CPU 100% utilization...).. no discrimination in the eyes of..( of..of..the Mormo..).. God,( what a sidestep! ).. and I could not have been more pleased ( very passive language. Can't you just feel the love? The excitement? No? Me neither. )...to see the change that occurred."( I think Mittbot means the Mormon Church, but since the last noun was God, then maybe God changed. )

Poor Mitt, nothing is clear for him.

[AmericanMade1776]

colorcountry wrote: Ask yourself, how many black people live in Utah TODAY? Doesn’t it make you wonder just a bit? Another thing, Mitt Romney was 31 years old, just starting Bain Capital and a father of three children when the LDS Church finally ended its racial discrimination. I remember it well. I was a 22 year old Mormon woman who had just MET the first black person in her WHOLE life. I understand racial discrimination.

Look , you are talking to a Southern Baptist raised in Georgia, who lived in Colorado and Massachusetts, who is now Methodist... and the reason Utah and Colorado are whiter than the South, is because Black Slavery existed in the South before the Civil war and not in Utah or Colorado..duh!

[Graybeard58]

Wallace sought the United States presidency in 1968 as a candidate of the American Independent Party, running on antidesegregation issues, respect for law and order, and freedom from excessive federal control.

Which has nothing to do with his later born again status. He didn't become born again for political gain but to regain his own soul. He was not running for any office when he was reborn.

[muawiyah]

Look, the interpretation of Mormonism at issue here is one created by a WSJ writer ~ time for an Authority to bring in material that deals with the same issue and so far none of them have done so. It's early morning; they all have jobs; they'll be here eventually.

It will be a cold day in a hot hell when I start accepting WSJ interpretations of religious matters as "Gospel Truth". Their business is to fill the pockets of their readers with gold, not their spirits with religious "truths".

Gad!

[Leisler]

Are any of these people presently running for President?

I didn’t think so.

[muawiyah]

You'll notice that Catholics neatly differentiate between matters of faith and matters of church administration. So do most Evangelicals.

There are a variety of reasons for that. If the Mormons don't, it's their religion, not yours, so your best course of action here is to not attempt to cast Mormonism in the same mold as your own theological and ecclesiastical outlook.

[colorcountry]

There are more blacks in Colorado. I asked about UTAH specifically. There are blacks in Nevada, Arizona, New Mexido, California, Washington, Kansas....how about UTAH?

30 years after the LDS Church ended its discriminatory practices, we finally forced some to come here after hurricane Katrina.

Wow, we are such a loving and inclusive people. But we DO have plenty of polynesians. We THOUGHT they were descendants of Hebrews and so we brought them here, and then DNA and.....oopsie......

[Graybeard58]

Point out all the racist politicians you want, it doesn't change the fact that it is not doctrine of any main line Catholic or Protestant church. The only church that had it as official doctrine was the one being discussed in this article.

The doctrine that Romney will not renounce and according to the article is still being taught to this day even if it's not official doctrine.

[Leisler]

What was Mitt’s Dad, the Hero of Republican Civil Rights( according to Mittbot) what did he do as a leader of the LDS vis a vis Black Americans and the Church?

(crickets)

Yep.

And the Mittster? After all, he was a Harvard Lawyer by then. Shirley( stop calling me that ) he was writing to the leadership, letters to the Salt Lake local rag, denouncing the practice. Right? Bueller? Anyone?

(crickets)

[AmericanMade1776]

, muawiyah wrote: It's an opinion piece from Wall Street Journal ~ it was simply posted by a FReeper. Are you suggesting that FReepers do not need to keep aware of what WSJ and its gaggle of writers are saying? Your reference to #2 doesn't make any sense without some sort of explanation.

No I am not suggesting any such thing, but it seems due to Huckabee running as "holier than thou" Christian, that Mormonism is taking a lot of hits due to political ambitions.

[AmericanMade1776]

B.S.

[muawiyah]

There are several reasons black people don't relocate to Utah. In fact, they're the same reasons white people don't either.

If you'd like I'll name a few ~ it's a desert, it has 4 months more winter than other places, it's culturally dissimilar to places black people and white people like to live, employment has been tight until quite recently and the local lack of interest in keeping out illegal aliens makes it hard for entry level job folks to get jobs, etc.

Do you need more?

[meandog]

April of 1964, more African-Americans attempted to enter the restaurant. Maddox confronted the group, brandishing a handgun.

But, but, Maddox was just confronting them figuratively

[Leisler]

"Their business is to fill the pockets of their readers with gold, not their spirits with religious "truths". Gad!"

What's up with that? The fill their pockets with gold? What, are they false...um...Jews or something?

I repeatedly see here on FR, Mittbots writing that their critics are robbing, doing, putting gold into the hands of preachers/priests/fill in the blank.

There is some serious projection going on.

[AmericanMade1776]

:-) They don’t like to ski?

[muawiyah]

Then explain POST #6 in terms of what you posted. You said "Load of BS" ~ so please point out exactly what the "Load of BS" was.

Vague generalities are not satisfactory.

[Graybeard58]

B.S.

Real intelligent reply.

You have nothing.

[muawiyah]

They are BUSINESS PEOPLE, not spiritual advisors.

I have a friend who keeps his "money god" on his key chain. That's his religion.

He still knows the difference and does not pray to the money god while he's standing on his head contemplating the child Krishna during his meditations.

I would expect folks here to be able to do at least the same, and without standing on their heads.